What the hell is the USA anymore? What type of government?

[vernarial]

I don't for a second believe we are a democracy, or even a capitalist state. Wiki has a rather incomplete list of the types of government. They don't mention republic in that list or fascism for that matter. Originally the USA was supposed to be a Republic. It even says it in our Pledge of Allegiance.
Anyway I was wondering what everyone(including people outside of the USA) thought our current form of goverment would be categorized as? Personally I would call it pretty close to an Oligarchy Or maybe a Plutocracy. What do you think?

[RoBoBoy]

tyranny

[multi]

it's an evil empire run by corporations
and John Howard.. you think its Bush and that senile old asshat that run the show but it really always been our Johnny all along. He was there in washington for the 911 event which he probably helped ochestrate months or years before Bush even got into office. As the the leader for the worldwide organization of conservatives he has been calling the shots all along. Don't underestimate this guy, you might think he is a little two-bit nobody but he holds reign over the most powerful conserative leaders in the world today.

[JackSpratts]

i run the whole enchilada, when i'm not too busy surfing dawn's threads. or napping.

[Mazer]

Well now, are we talking about what kind of government the Constitution established or what kind of regime is in power at this particular moment? The short answer to the first question is a constitution-based federal republic with strong a democratic tradition (that's what the world factbook says, anyway). But even that isn't sufficient as people can't always agree whether we're a federal union of states or a single nation. If people cannot agree on what the United States should be then what's our basis for comparison in deciding what the United States has become?

Vern, you're an ambitious one, asking such questions on this forum.

[floydian slip]

Corporationocracy. Sponsored by...

[Nicobie]

Originally Posted by multi

it's an evil empire run by corporations
and John Howard.. you think its Bush and that senile old asshat that run the show but it really always been our Johnny all along. He was there in washington for the 911 event which he probably helped ochestrate months or years before Bush even got into office. As the the leader for the worldwide organization of conservatives he has been calling the shots all along. Don't underestimate this guy, you might think he is a little two-bit nobody but he holds reign over the most powerful consecrative leaders in the world today.

We are a country run by blood sucking government workers that just vote for their paycheck. It's a given that over 50% of the people in the USA get their checks from our gov. one way or the other.

When other industries experience a slow down there are layoffs and cost cutting measures. This has NEVER happened with gov. workers. The worst that happens with them is that they get reclassified/transfered with usually a pay raise. Private industry has had to cut back on health care benefits because of the costs. Have any of you heard of the same thing happening to our wonderfully gov employees?

Here in CA they get to retire at 50 with 90% of their pay, full health benefits and a cost of living increase every year. They, like most gov workers don't even pay into SS. I probably won't even get SS, But I'm sure I'll liable for funding our "wonderfull" hardworking govm'nt workers.

[Nicobie]

Originally Posted by RoBoBoy

tyranny

Only if you don't get involved and vote.

[~XIX~]

Originally Posted by vernarial

I don't for a second believe we are a democracy, or even a capitalist state. Wiki has a rather incomplete list of the types of government. They don't mention republic in that list or fascism for that matter. Originally the USA was supposed to be a Republic. It even says it in our Pledge of Allegiance.
Anyway I was wondering what everyone(including people outside of the USA) thought our current form of goverment would be categorized as? Personally I would call it pretty close to an Oligarchy Or maybe a Plutocracy. What do you think?

plutocracy for sure... oligarchy... yep...

so possibly a plutoligarchy?

[Nicobie]

Originally Posted by ~XIX~

plutocracy for sure... oligarchy... yep...

so possibly a plutoligarchy?

Hey meka..

It's government by government workers for government workers and everyone else is just damned.