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Old 12-10-04, 02:28 PM   #1
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Angry That is it! I'm voting for Kerry

Never thought I would say this, but I'm tired of Bush and his stinking oil cronies, we are paying almost $2.50 a gallon in California for gas, and he won't do anything about it.

I hear is how much he cares about "The American people". Yeah right, he obviously doesn't care about how much money we get to keep in our wallets.
(Only his rich buddies)

I guess it doesn't really matter anyways, because Kerry will take California easily, he can't be any worse than Bush.

The war on terror is a failure, he will never win it, Iraq will never become a democracy, we need to cut our losses and get the hell out now.

Kerry seems to care more about the American people than Bush ever will.

Oh, and last time I looked, I didn't see the terrorists running down my street, he is just trying to play on our fears. Throw the bum out!
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Old 12-10-04, 02:54 PM   #2
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wow

what happened pisser? Never thought i'd see the day where you would take the democratic side

You are right on this tho, the war against terrorisim is a complete failiure.

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EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement :
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

Military:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

College:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America. - I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history. - With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record. I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury. I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month. I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her. I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President. I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations. My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History: Enron. My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to ensure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history. I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government. I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history. I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees, and have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention. I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television. I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August 2001, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history. I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world---the largest failure of diplomacy in world history. I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind. I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, preemptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community. I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends. I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security. I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD. I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view. All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004!
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Old 12-10-04, 05:33 PM   #3
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Never thought I would say this, but I'm tired of Bush and his stinking oil cronies, we are paying almost $2.50 a gallon in California for gas, and he won't do anything about it.

I hear is how much he cares about "The American people". Yeah right, he obviously doesn't care about how much money we get to keep in our wallets.
(Only his rich buddies)
Awww...nobody cares about pisser.

Hey you could get one of those electric cars....no, better not, your tears would short circuit it.
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Old 12-10-04, 05:46 PM   #4
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Never thought I would say this, but I'm tired of Bush and his stinking oil cronies, we are paying almost $2.50 a gallon in California for gas, and he won't do anything about it.
I pay $6 a gallon
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Old 12-10-04, 06:33 PM   #5
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holy sh*t! they killed pisser!

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Old 13-10-04, 01:53 AM   #6
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holy sh*t! they killed pisser!

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lol

I have narrowed my choices on voting for nader or napho!

Seriously though - I am glad pisser has seen the light.
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Old 13-10-04, 11:51 AM   #7
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I pay $6 a gallon
Yeah, but your country is smaller than our city!

Try commuting 60 mi. a day at $6 a gallon
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Old 13-10-04, 11:51 AM   #8
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Awww...nobody cares about pisser.

Hey you could get one of those electric cars....no, better not, your tears would short circuit it.
You can take those tears and shove it!
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Old 13-10-04, 05:19 PM   #9
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Cry me an enema bitch.
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Old 13-10-04, 07:34 PM   #10
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i really dont think you will get bush out that easy...when more than half the population makes most of its decisions out of fear..ie.fear of lack ,fear of death
its going to be far easier for the policys of the right to trap new and swinging voters.
and the climate is perfect..whether by design or circumstance

the health care issue that was even going on in a thread here is a good example
of how fear is a vital ingredient to how the polarities of politics work..its is the membrane that sperates the dichotimised nature of our current state of democracy

i hope JK wins
but i fear he wont..
come on US prove me wrong..

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Old 14-10-04, 03:09 PM   #11
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Cry me an enema bitch.
Sure, all over your face anytime, and I'll mix in some of the yellow stuff for good measure
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Old 14-10-04, 07:09 PM   #12
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the way the oil prices are going it could be hitting 60US$ a barrel by christmas..it seems to hovering around 55$ atm..and only going in one direction

if JK gets in..gas prices wont get better..if he does stuff like.. signs the kyoto protocol the petro-chemical sector will go into panic mode..it could get even worse..

are you sure your ready to go liberal and change your whole political philosophy over gas prices..pisser?

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Old 14-10-04, 07:29 PM   #13
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the way the oil prices are going it could be hitting 60US$ a barrel by christmas..it seems to hovering around 55$ atm..and only going in one direction

if JK gets in..gas prices wont get better..if he does stuff like.. signs the kyoto protocol the petro-chemical sector will go into panic mode..it could get even worse..

are you sure your ready to go liberal and change your whole political philosophy over gas prices..pisser?

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Personnally, it's about time that another alternative is to be considered very soon to oil/gaz.
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Old 14-10-04, 08:07 PM   #14
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hiya

who me ...never !

some kids at a university built a solar/hydrogen car...they can make one on a limited school budget in four years ..but motor manufacturing conglomerates with their huge budgets and even huger research grants still manage to come up with virually nothing..
and they have been sucking it up with plenty of existing technology to work with since the 70's at least..while people reseaching hydrogen independently were threatened and some time probably even killed to death..for not giving up
and selling their designs to the motor manufacturing conglomerates and oil ogliarchies..where they were promptly shelved..never to see the light of day again..this is an old story..

the copyright problems the internet has caused would be miniscule to the economic problems that would arise if people started brewing their own fuel at home out of tap water..but i am sure its been an ongoing fight to limit the technology..creat mountains of disinformation..and keep fossil fuel as the apparent only valid form of power for transport..
maybe seem a bit far fetched..?
sure..i just think the governments of the oil and drug money funded world economy last wish is to see valid operating alternativly powered vehicles available to the general public ..cheaply
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Old 14-10-04, 10:58 PM   #15
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Yeah, but your country is smaller than our city!

Try commuting 60 mi. a day at $6 a gallon
cars in europe have smaller engines than american cars so even 60 miles a day shouldn't be a problem. on average most euro cars are 1.2 or 1.4. you yanks and your hummers $6 of fuel won't get you out of the driveway. i really don't understand why we in canada have to pay high prices for oil. we have plenty of oil reserves.
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Yeah, but your country is smaller than our city!

Try commuting 60 mi. a day at $6 a gallon

trust me, many do, they just don't give a fuck. Shell (51% dutch) wants the money back they lost with their faulty reserve report and it seems we have to cough it up.....allthough it is mostly tax
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i really don't understand why we in canada have to pay high prices for oil. we have plenty of oil reserves.
It's a global market. If people pay more somewhere else that's where the oil goes, so you have to pay the same or do without.
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cars in europe have smaller engines than american cars so even 60 miles a day shouldn't be a problem. on average most euro cars are 1.2 or 1.4. you yanks and your hummers $6 of fuel won't get you out of the driveway. i really don't understand why we in canada have to pay high prices for oil. we have plenty of oil reserves.


We pay high prices because the government taxes gas to death. Canadians get punished for driving Cars, trucks, Moterbikes, etc.......Part of the High taxes on gas go towards our Health Care System which is a complete joke.
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the way the oil prices are going it could be hitting 60US$ a barrel by christmas..it seems to hovering around 55$ atm..and only going in one direction

if JK gets in..gas prices wont get better..if he does stuff like.. signs the kyoto protocol the petro-chemical sector will go into panic mode..it could get even worse..

are you sure your ready to go liberal and change your whole political philosophy over gas prices..pisser?

It's not just gas prices, it's a whole slew of issues, mainly Bush's fixation on the war and nothing else, really I'm pissed more about the domestic issues, also, living in California, it doesn't really matter who I vote for, since Kerry will definately take California, so I figure, what the hell, send the Republicans a message.
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cars in europe have smaller engines than american cars so even 60 miles a day shouldn't be a problem. on average most euro cars are 1.2 or 1.4. you yanks and your hummers $6 of fuel won't get you out of the driveway. i really don't understand why we in canada have to pay high prices for oil. we have plenty of oil reserves.
Well thats a nice view, but don't be so ignorant. Not every american has a hummer, or wants one, I drive a compact car with a 4 cylinder engine, that gets pretty good gas mileage, but really what this is about is the economy.
Since 2/3 of the economy is generated by consumer spending, the higher gas prices take away disposible income from most families, therefore hurting the economic growth of the country.

I don't expect 50 cents a gallon gas, but it needs to be a little more reasonable, also, here in California, most people have to commute longer distances to work, because of the geographic layout of Southern California, so cars are not really a luxury, but a necessity.

Frankly, Bush doesn't give a shit about the average (read, middle class) families of America, just his rich oil buddies, that's why I say, throw the bum out!
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