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Old 09-02-03, 01:44 AM   #1
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This sounds too good to be true- napho=sceptical

"I am a beta-tester for a stealth file-sharing application that has been in development for the past year called Earth Station 5, or ES5 for short. Add the .com to either name and you’ll get to their website, which is counting down to their launch date on February 14 next week. The significance in that date is that it is Valentine’s Day in the US and I think refers to the Valentine’s Day Massacre because this program will quickly give the a lot of anti-P2P foes a major headache. With their stealth and cloaking technology (the anonymity and privacy of FREENET without the pain), I predict that ES5 well quickly earn a reputation as being “The Guardian Angel of P2P File Sharing.”

They will be posting new information on the site throughout the week detailing all of the features of this new program—which are way too many to list here right now, so I’ll list just some of the most important features that other P2P clients don’t have. ES5 enables all file types and will be available in 28 languages.

Stealth & Cloaking Technology - ES5 #1 goal is to protect its users from intrusions to their privacy by providing encrypted traffic, random ports and IP anonymity:

· One-Click Proxy Server - Users can send connection requests through intermediary proxy servers located throughout the world so that the download destination of a file cannot be traced by any entity whatsoever. There is nothing for the user to set-up, just right click to enable the proxy server.

· SSL - Secure Sockets – Prevents monitoring of a user’s uploading or downloading activity. Users can automatically deploy SSL by right clicking.

· UDP - User Datagram Protocol – Using UDP makes it impossible to reliably scan a user’s computer to determine if ES5 is running. Also, unlike TCP connections, UDP traffic can not be easily blocked by ISPs.

· ES5 Security Key - ES5 utilizes a standard HTTP server to transmit files, but deploys a special "security key" so than only ES5 users can access your shared files.

· IP Addresses - ES5 does not display user IP Address information.

· Dynamic Ports – Each ES5 node uses a randomly chosen port (unless the user chooses a specific port themselves). Therefore, ISP’s will be unable to identify file-sharing traffic based upon port numbers and unable to throttle back the users bandwidth.

· User Defined Port Settings – ES5 provides users with “one-click” port setting options for ES5 to use port 53 (the port used by DNS) or port 37 (the port used by time service) therefore rendering all blocking attempts hopeless.

· Multiple Points of Entry - ES5 uses multiple methods for connecting to the ES5 network including IP Multicast, Usenet Articles, Web Sites, Node List Files and a several other undisclosed methods. .

· Penetrating Firewalls – UDP allows seamless penetration of firewalls without inconvenient setting of firewall parameters. For users behind firewalls, ES5 uses UDP to request a PUSH, where the behind-the-firewall computer initiates the connection back to the requested user’s computer.

File-Reliability - ES5 has deployed technology to thwart the efforts of spoofing, interdiction, poor quality files, viruses and broken file segments that plague the other P2P networks. ES5 will launch with 1.5 terabytes of files that should grow quickly as more users join.

· The Green Light - ES5 has VERIFIED files that are confirmed to be authentic, high quality and VIRUS-FREE as signified by a small green light that will be next to the file in the search results list.

· No Waiting For More Sources - ES5 has been designed not to have "missing" files by removing bad files during the search stage. Only a files that are readily availablefor downloading are listed.

· “InterGalactic Searches” - ES5’s version of ultrapeers or supernodes, however searches are not just limited to your nearest “star cluster” because ES5 constantly shuffles the Planets and Stars, creating new Galaxies so users are always accessing different parts of the Universe on every search. Since ES5 displays results of authenticated “green-lighted” and ready to download files only, it is not necessary to retrieve hundreds of file listings. If a user is unsatisfied with the results of their search page, a SEARCH AGAIN button automatically searches a new galaxy of users.

· Less Bandwidth Usage - ES5 uses UDP (instead of TCP) for searching its universe thereby significantly decreasing the bandwidth requirements for its users and provides automatic network load balancing. Nodes with bad or slow Internet connections will respond less to search requests so that those slower and unreliable nodes won’t stymie users with better connections. ES5 lets users limit the amount of bandwidth it uses.

· Standard Performance Enhancements – ES5 has incorporated all the advanced P2P file sharing technologies that any reputable client must have today including concurrent segmented downloads / swarm downloading, auto-resume downloads, multiple searches simultaneously, metadata support and previewing.

Free Stuff, No Spyware, No Adware – Six free streaming video sex channels (no CC or registration required), free dating services (with video and audio), free IP based phone calls and free special events programming plus more. No intrusive software like Kazaa or Grokster, no bundled 3rd party software, no Spyware, no adware, no hassle!

Who is EarthStation 5? – I don’t know and I doubt that anyone ever will. They have kept their identities shrouded in mystery and trying to trace their origin of operations turned up surprising, but ultimately useless, results (although similar to Kazaa, the South Pacific Island of Vanuatu is involved but it gets much more interesting from there).

ES5 may be the next generation P2P file sharing application that (almost) everyone has been waiting for. The world will find out on Valentine’s Day.
Who is EarthStation 5? Who is EarthStation 5? Stealth & Cloaking Technology Stealth & Cloaking Technology One-Click Proxy Server SSL - Secure Sockets UDP - User Datagram Protocol ES5 Security Key - IP Addresses Dynamic Ports User Defined Port Settings Multiple Points of Entry Penetrating Firewalls File-Reliability - File-Reliability - The Green Light Green No Waiting For More Sources “InterGalactic Searches” Less Bandwidth Usage Standard Performance Enhancements Free Stuff, No Spyware, No Adware Free Stuff, No Spyware, No Adware"



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Old 09-02-03, 08:07 AM   #2
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yeah, i was just reading about this over at zeropaid.
like u......most r skeptical.
but do we really need the streaming porno?
if nothing else....that will welcome in all the pervs with all of their nasty files and who knows what else.
but i would mos def give it a looksy if it's the real deal.
until then, winmx will do just fine.
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Old 09-02-03, 10:31 AM   #3
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Well it sounds great and all but unless it protects the uploaders the RIAA has a simple way of derailing it. They could enforce criminal sanctions (a la Verizon) against anyone using the network to share, which would scare off the uploaders. Without the inventory it's just another wannabe.

Unless you're downloading really bad stuff like bomb plans and kiddie porn nobody's interested. The copyright cops want the distributors. The uploaders. They know the rest are depending on them.

Regardless as to whether the client displays IP addresses, computers certainly do. A simple netstat query and they have you. Then you’re an email away from oblivion since the courts decided that subpoenas for copyright violation don’t require due process. If you remember in the Verizon complaint, no one stipulated that the guy actually even uploaded. He just had 600 files on his PC that he could've uploaded. They might've been fakes for all the court knew - it just didn’t care about that detail. That he “may have” had them ready to “distribute” was all the judge needed to know. In my opinion this has been the single worst thing to happen to file sharing.

If the Verizon decision stands it will lead to the end of all P2Ps as we know them. Once the first kids are fined 250 thousand dollars there won’t be a parent in the land that’ll allow a filesharing program on a home PC. Adults of course will stop using them immediately and while some will always remain, especially those outside the U.S., the problem again is inventory. With stored files all but gone from the networks and songs and movies harder and harder to find, file sharing for most becomes a memory. It will live on as a system for paid distribution and the free sharing of non-copyrighted fare - it’s just too good not to – but the bacchanalian days of anything goes downloading will quietly end, if this verdict remains and in America at least, when those huge court fines blow across the headlines and in bedrooms throughout the land, millions of folders are unshared with little clicks.

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Old 09-03-03, 04:14 PM   #4
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Isn't working for me. It crashed repeatedly at different stages. And the roughest cut of all is that the streaming porno wasn't even online. Damn them i say!
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Old 10-03-03, 12:11 AM   #5
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so its not a hoax....
sounding like it may as well have been...
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Old 11-03-03, 08:35 PM   #6
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so its not a hoax....
sounding like it may as well have been...
they are repeatedly stressing upload security and usability, two things not seen in a p2p before now. it leads one to presume their network isn't "exactly" peer-to-peer but employs more of a modified server based delivery system.

if that's the case then there would possibly be large sums behind the effort for bandwidth acquisition and legal protections, monies presumably lent by major capitalists intent on major returns.

this would require a location in a country where one felt secure against prosecution and there are few if any of those. to then create such a retreat one needs necessary amounts of high denominational "goodwill", properly distributed to interested parties, who in turn can deliver laws that insure such protections and guarantee that other players can't enter the game.

thus established they could comfortably watch as the other “free” apps are shut down by law until the only one left is theirs, leaving them in an enviable and powerful position, ready to dictate the monthly terms…

to you.

on the other hand all this unpleasantness is avoided with a true decentralized peer-to-peer.

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Old 15-03-03, 03:53 PM   #7
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im an beta testing this at the moment..
well may only be for a moment..cause
i an finding it too intergrated with other windows shit like netmeeting and ie,outlook ect...
its all about dating and video chat +
some naked news stuff
and seems weird in the p2p area..
i might be a little more entertaing for BB users
tho have to give it more of a good run thru..
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Old 15-03-03, 07:10 PM   #8
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keep us posted multi!

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Old 18-03-03, 03:58 AM   #9
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to any that may be going to trial the beta...
seems there is no capability to resume files....yet...yes resume! it looks like
theres no dowloading from multiple sources either...
and these things appears to be secondary considerations ......
the dating and adult entertainment seem to be more important....
tried 3 betas 0.95,0.96 and now on 0.97...

some very slight improvements...
but no resume...
to me thats essential......
and imo should of been perfected b4 the beta release

on a more positive note....
confused writes:
How EXACTLY does this whole system work ?? I'm bewildered by these "planets" giving me insane download speeds .. I mean I'm downloading a full length movie at 400k stable !! How is that possible !! Is everybody else getting these extreme speeds ??

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What happens is that ESV searches the 'planets' and it reveals the ques. Now if between now and your next search, someone has clicked on to a specific file, that file will not be revealed when you search for it again until the person has finished downloading it.

One of the problems that Kazaa and other P2P programs have is that they reveal programs that their users have, but are not available. Thus you get the SEARCHING FOR MORE RESOURCES that waist your bandwith and resources cause it keeps searching and generally never finds anything.

At ESV, we dont waist your time on that kinda fraud. Were not interested in being a show off to produce how many files that are on our network to say 'hey we got billions of files', rather our program checks every individual planets ability to share (according to files, bandwith, and resources) so that when you see a file available, you actually can download it without being told that 'its there but ya cant have it'.

My private collection includes more than a tera cause I personally am a P2P freik. One of our Indian Programmers (from India) has over 2.5 tera but he wont share until ESV launches because he doesnt want to tie up his resources and bandwith cause he needs them to program and operate.

When ESV launches, we intend to have between 10-20 million users (we are going to take all the users of KAZAA, Emule, Edonkey, etc) cause as you have noticed, our system is the fastest and we provide many other services for FREE - like SEX for free. We will kill the pay for sex sites simply because we are giving everything away for free.

Kazaa and many other P2P programs started off and continue to make the illusion that they have so many files available, but its only an illusion. At ESV, what you SEE is what you can GET!


Any SEARCH on any P2P is kinda like a file that speeds at 250kb. It is extremely fast. Basically it takes up a lot of resources. ESV could have the program search ALL planets and ALL SUNS, but then it would take probably a long time while it loops around the world in the search and basically uses your bandwith, processor, and resources to do so.

So what did we do? ESV has SUNS and the SUN has planets surrounding them. Every Planet (regular user) sends a file to the SUN telling it what files it has, how much bandwith available and a little about the planets computer processor. The Sun receives many files like this so when another planet looks for a file it can find it from its local SUN. ESV is in the midst of improving itself and YES, SUNS communicate with other SUNS.

The SUN is supposed to be in your local area so that you can get your file fast.

Now not everybody qualifies to be a SUN. To be a SUN, you must have over 5,000 files. In addition, you must have at least DSL or Cable internet feed. Also, ESV is designed to make sure that your processor can handle it.

ESV is designed to find on each search que about 200 files. Your SUN may have thousands of files that fit your request (perhaps your looking for GUNS & ROSES), but its a BIG waist of YOUR BANDWITH if you search a SUNS entire system. It should only give you about 200 files.

Have you ever done a SEARCH on your WINDOWS machine where it searches all of your drives? The search takes some time. This is similar, only FILEHOOVER has designed a very fast and effective system so that you get your searches very fast.

Now sometimes you are going to have to search again when you dont find exactly what you are looking for. In the VERY near future when there are millions using ESV at any given time, you wont have any problem in finding anything.

The EXAMPLE of a rare file that is being downloaded and therefore you cant download it basically is a classic example of your computer waisting bandwith and resources and therefore slowing down other downloads cause its blocked on SEARCHING FOR MORE RESOURCES. Basically your computer keeps looping and looping in the search. Again the SEARCH has fast speeds that take up lots of bandwith.

So the expense on the overall chargecard proves not worth it. Two people can download the same file providing that the downloader who is sharing the file has enough bandwith and resources to share to two people. In most cases, he does. He can share many files at the same time.

If you cant find something on the SEARCH, try again. Again, ESV just opened its doors to the public this week. Millions will use ESV because of the many options including the ability to HIDE YOUR IP.

When ESV officially launches, I promise you there wont be a file that you cant find, both brand new and rare.

For now, ENJOY THE SPEED!





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they are going to take all the users of KAZAA, Emule, Edonkey, etc?????
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they are going to take all the users of KAZAA, Emule, Edonkey, etc?????
Why does that statement make me so nervous?

The voices in my head keep repeating the same thing over and over "if'n it's too good to be true"............
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Old 18-03-03, 02:42 PM   #12
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Very interesting...you can get music and laid at the same time.
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music and laid at the same time.
i've always done it that way.

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ES5 has come along way. I am sure that ES5 has the potential to be one of the best P2P programs. This is more or less why I think that they have what it takes to be better than them all.

Their added security of hiding the IP address on upload and download along with their share using SSL to encrypt the traffic to prevent nosy ISP's or packetshapers will definately bring them crowds.

They will kill the 'pay for sex' porn sites that charge you for seeing porn, because on ES5 you get quality porn for free.

Hell, they even stream different porn movies on 7 different channels for FREE 24 hours a day! And they also stream the NAKED NEWS for FREE!

I think that university students who are behind tight firewalls preventing using Kazaa or other P2P programs will love ESV because ESV is the only program to penetrate a firewall.

The download speed is amazing, I average on download 220kb, and have topped 640kb downloads. They dont have any adware, spyware, or any advertisements anywhere in the program.

Its safe to say that ESV is offering the all in one P2P application that is safe, and more important, everything is free. It doesnt get any better than that.

BTW, they are also doing verified files.
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Old 18-05-03, 11:25 AM   #15
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Very Angry <----oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy

i bet he dont even read any posts in this thread...hehe

porn2peer
great idea if it can keep it out of the other networks

i wonder if you do get to shut down all the pay for porn sites
if they will hack and troll your network so bad
that it will be unbareable?
it sounds even more bloated,
now..blah
does resume work..do the half finished downloads still disapear?
how many forums are u banned from now?y dont u just disapear?
i will never use it
again...n e way
u and yr spamming
have put me off ever giving it
another try..

i see they pretty much denied knowing u at the
es5 forums
how much do u get paid ?
do they know that u are being an ass?
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hi monyak,

i'm sure you're terrifically excited about your client, and perhaps with good reason. that you haven’t answered basic questions about it’s operation and ownership is vexing but it's a problem i can live with. we have however many members here at napsterites who are users and developers of other clients and networks, including fasttrack and xolox, soulseek, winmx, bittorrent, emule, ftp and a host of others, both public and proprietary. in spite of their obvious enthusiasms they somehow manage to contain themselves and respect their peers by not spamming the boards with hit and run promos for their personal favorites. my suggestion is you try and do the same.

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amen (what he said)
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Without a skin and with a change of url for the ads it's not half bad looking.
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Now not everybody qualifies to be a SUN. To be a SUN, you must have over 5,000 files.
Well, isn't that the most retarded thing I've heard in ages! A Sun (a supernode in other words) needs lots of bandwidth and cpu. Why would the number of files shared matter at all? In fact, the fewer the better, as the cpu and bandwidth can be dedicated to running searches.

Also, your (which is to say monyak's) claim that ES5 is the only P2P able to get through firewalls is clearly specious; I've used at some point just about every P2P app ever created, and none had problems getting through firewalls. Going as far as Napster you had pull/push to get around the problem. And firewalled-to-firewalled client connections are only possible with the help of a non-firewalled proxy, which is nice to have, but you won't be getting anything over a few megs in a reasonable time with this method. A better solution is to use a popular client which will provide plenty of non-firewalled sources.

All the noise about Kazaa, SoulSeek, Gnutella, WinMX, eDonkey, DirectConnect and others users migrating em masse to ES5, is pure bullshit, and shows a clear lack of understanding of the scene. The two by far largest migrations happened because the network folded (Napster, but then OpenNap still lives on) or the client switched (Morpheus moved to Gnutella). There is no case where a new cvlient of ANY sort stole users from other networks.

And streaming porn isn't going to put any porn sites out of business. First of all, the idea sucks. No one 'schedules' their porn viewings, certainly not to anybody else's terms. Second, virtually every single adult movie ever put out is available on P2P, and many adult sites are being ripped and shared already. This has been going on for years, and hasn't made any difference. Porn sites don't live on movie sales.
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