Wolfgang's Vault - P2P-Zone

theknife · 19-12-06, 08:29 PM

so how do you rip it all?

JackSpratts · 19-12-06, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by theknife

so how do you rip it all?

i haven't registered.

you'll need to know a few things about this to say.

- like -

open or propriatary player?

can you find the stream (notepad or netstat) and feed to winamp?

theknife · 19-12-06, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JackSpratts

i haven't registered.

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Ramona_A_Stone · 19-12-06, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theknife

so how do you rip it all?

Well, first I confess ignorance of both fancy ripping technologies and the site itself. (I wrote the post (from memory) after hearing an article on NPR in the car (which featured a rather exquisite Santana clip) and a cursory glance at the site. (My own computer is currently enslaved in a new studio and offline so I'm a bit of tourist on the roommate's mac lately.)) But having said all that, I've never encountered anything that, if it will play on my machine at all, I couldn't route directly to SoundForge for real time recording as a wav, with pristine results... if I had to.

And sure the artists have a case, too bad for them that information has that pesky tendency of wanting to be free.

JackSpratts · 20-12-06, 01:10 AM

i haven't been able to stream this to winamp (so far). in source the flash site has no addresses while netstat isn't coughing up them up either, at least nothing acceptable to my players. the good news is the quality. on the elton john concert from 1970 at least it's very clean, both for ancient vault stuff and streams, and well worth capturing i would think. if the frequency response isn't the widest the dynamics are great and the performance is a nice surprise and it's all keeping me up way past my bedtime. i know i want it. it's probably going to be a sound card recording tho, either with a wav like ramona ah, implies, or playing around with an mp3 to get the bit rates matched and save some space. my guess here is no more than 128kbs, but probably less. most likely this is a 96kbs encode.

the best thing would be to have highbit dubs from the tapes up but assuming this site sticks around we'll probably see some ripping shortcuts soon.

this is a nice little find.

thank you mr graham.

- js.

multi · 20-12-06, 04:32 AM

Audacity is a good free wav editor if anyone is interested
not far off cooledit or soundforge

JackSpratts · 20-12-06, 10:35 AM

before (if) this stuff vanishes into copyright purgatory i'm grabbing the elton john concert the old-fashioned way: analog w/a twist.

· i ran a cable from my laptop's headphone jack to my hi-fi vcr's 2-track audio in.

· i popped in a blank video tape, set the channel to av and hit record.

· i started streamming.

that's it.

the vcr's frequency response is wider than the wolfgang stream and the noise floor lower so it captures wider dynamics too (hi-fi vcrs can have very good audio chains).

it's not the perfect solution but the recording will be nearly indistingishable from the stream so it'll work out fine for now (i tested it). the important thing is i'll have a good copy.

i’ve lived comfortable and well with analog for most of my life…

so i'm cool.

- js.

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JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,020	before (if) this stuff vanishes into copyright purgatory i'm grabbing the elton john concert the old-fashioned way: analog w/a twist. · i ran a cable from my laptop's headphone jack to my hi-fi vcr's 2-track audio in. · i popped in a blank video tape, set the channel to av and hit record. · i started streamming. that's it. the vcr's frequency response is wider than the wolfgang stream and the noise floor lower so it captures wider dynamics too (hi-fi vcrs can have very good audio chains). it's not the perfect solution but the recording will be nearly indistingishable from the stream so it'll work out fine for now (i tested it). the important thing is i'll have a good copy. i’ve lived comfortable and well with analog for most of my life… so i'm cool. - js.