Public Safety: Guns and Driverless Cars

[theknife]

when i become your benevolent dictator, i will take away all your guns and we will all be better off when i do.

[Mazer]

Originally Posted by theknife

when i become your benevolent dictator, i will take away all your guns and we will all be better off when i do.

You'd have to be careful. Certain types would only agree on the condition that you take their bullets first.

[albed]

Wow! Huge copy and paste Mazer. Good job not thinking for yourself, that would have been very hard for you.


Yeah, take away the guns knife, fentanyl-poisoned darts dropped from a drone have so much potential, or just some baggies of it wrapped around M-80's.

So many ways to kill. Until recently the biggest mass murder in U.S. history was done with a container of gasoline in a crowded firetrap. I think it was 80+ people.

In accordance with the "Iron Law of Bureaucracy" the government needs criminals to justify and expand its power, specifically the law enforcement bureaucracy, the justice system bureaucracy and the prison system system bureaucracy which have all grown massively over the years, let alone their general campaigning value, so it's against the government's interest to eliminate criminals.

[Mazer]

You've always been a dick, albed, but accusing me of copypasta is about the laziest insult you've ever used.

[Bright Eyes]

When I become your benevolent dictator, I will restore the full rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment for all law abiding people to have the means to defend themselves from criminals who still have guns no matter what the law says, and to legally resist a tyrannical government as the Constitution says, and we will all be better off when I do.

[malvachat]

Originally Posted by Bright Eyes

When I become your benevolent dictator, I will restore the full rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment for all law abiding people to have the means to defend themselves from criminals who still have guns no matter what the law says, and to legally resist a tyrannical government as the Constitution says, and we will all be better off when I do.

Most people(well in my circle) in Britain find it so hard to understand this gun thing.
It just doesn't compute at all.
I respect people points of view on most things but this is one subject I can't.
Being allowed to possess guns yes.WITH PROPER CHECKS
But Military assault weapons.
Come on that's just stupid.

[Mazer]

Originally Posted by malvachat

Most people(well in my circle) in Britain find it so hard to understand this gun thing.
It just doesn't compute at all.
I respect people points of view on most things but this is one subject I can't.
Being allowed to possess guns yes.WITH PROPER CHECKS
But Military assault weapons.
Come on that's just stupid.

Many gun-owning Americans support this point of view. Incidentally, so does federal law. An assault rifle (this term has a precise definition in law) is not available to the average American since it qualifies as a machine gun, and machine guns have been heavily restricted for three decades. The term you used—assault weapon—is harder to pin down in legal terms. It is essentially any semi-automatic rifle with certain cosmetic features which make it no deadlier than a simple hunting rifle. There are military assault rifles but, respectfully malva, a 'military assault weapon' is not a thing.

I agree that proper checks are necessary. We may disagree what a proper check is, and as we've recently learned, even proper checks fail to catch everybody. Sadly, the Texas shooter this week had passed a background check despite his disqualifying history of violent crime. And the Las Vegas shooter passed every background check as well because he had no criminal past to speak of. After a month we still don't know his motive. Perhaps a psychological evaluation would have somehow indicated his intentions, but to me, requiring a psych-eval for gun buyers with no marks against them would be improper. For the government to limit a basic human right requires a damn good reason, and the remote possibility that any one gun might be used to commit a crime isn't a good enough reason, given the vast majority of guns are never aimed at people (that's rule #1 of gun safety, after all).

By the way, I'm not proud of what I said to albed, but I'm glad you got a kick out of it.

[malvachat]

Originally Posted by Mazer

You've always been a dick, albed,

Lots of things about my life make me smile.
Everyday it's something.
Yesterday it was my little grandson playing in the bath.
Today it's you Mazer.
Your comment just made me smile.