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01-06-06, 08:33 PM | #1 | |
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Pirate Bay chief: "Corruption Goes All the Way to the Top"
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- There will be a demonstration in Stockholm on Saturday organized by Pirate Bureau, Sweden's Pirate Party and the youth section of the Liberal Party. At least the youth section of the large Central Party is likely to join. - Swedish Television has run a report that claims that the pressure against Swedish authorities to act against Pirate Bay came directly from White House. - The member count of the Pirate Party is soaring. They have got some 2000 new members within a couple of days, making the party (3745 members at the time of this posting) already larger than the youth sections of well-established Christian Democrats and the Central Party. With the Swedish parliamentary elections only 100 days away, the Pirate Party is having increasingly realistic chances of getting a representation to the Swedish parliament. |
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01-06-06, 09:26 PM | #2 |
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It's no surprise that RIAA/MPAA (and other large, powerful commercial interests) have "friends" in the government.
However, the blame falls on the Swedish authorities if they conducted an illegal search and siezure, regardless of who "pressured them" into doing it. Now, they have a potentially big legal mess to clean up.
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Copyright means the copy of the CD/DVD burned with no errors. I will never spend a another dime on content that I can’t use the way I please. If I can’t copy it to my hard drive and play it using the devices I want, when and where I want, I won’t be buying it. Period. They can all take their DRM, broadcast flags, rootkits, and Compact Discs that aren’t really compact discs and shove them up their bottom-lines. |
02-06-06, 02:29 AM | #3 |
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Latest developments:
- In an interview by a big Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet Fredrik Neij, one of the brains behind the Pirate Bay website, tells that the site will be up again today, only 48 hours since the police shut it down. They will be using a hosting service located in Netherlands. - The website of Swedish police has been down due to a DoS attack since yesterday, and is still down at the time of this posting. - The Swedish mainstream press has reported the police action and particularly the U.S. role in it in a very critical fashion. There is already high-level political speculation that the Swedish Minister of Justice, Thomas Bodström, will have to resign his job as a consequence. |
02-06-06, 08:54 AM | #4 |
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clearly a few select swedes fell on their swords for some us "friends," sacrificing lifetime careers and lifelong reputations for a very clumsy, controversial and ultimately insignificant operation. not that i ever expect to but it would be very interesting to know why.
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02-06-06, 12:53 PM | #5 |
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This is getting a little ridiculous. I've always looked at downloading as a cat and mouse game, but we really don't have the right to pirate a movie people have spent $100 million on, or an album someone has spent 2 years of his life creating. They certainly have the right to try to stop piracy, while we have the right to continue. I'm amazed there haven't been more raids and demands that isp's cap and shape the hell out of us. We've gotten away with murder so far. This "outrage" is silly. TPB wasn't exactly curing cancer; their sole purpose was to facilitate piracy and laugh at authority.
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02-06-06, 02:06 PM | #6 |
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couldn't disagree with you more napho. people have a fundamental right to exchange ideas. it is among other things the cornerstone of a free society. if an occasional piece (or an avalanche) of commercial fluff winds up in the post so be it, no one's forced hollywood to make that sausage. on the other hand, we know from bitter experience the results of clamping down on the free flow of ideas. it can and has short circuited progress of every kind, including the medical variety. climate and stem cell research jump to mind, but give me 10 minutes and i'll come up with a hundred more.
having fun? swapping trifles? sure. but not curing cancer? i wouldn't bet my house on it. they may not know it but the people of the pirate bay and others like them have one of the most important jobs in the world. - js. |
02-06-06, 02:42 PM | #7 | |
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Whether personal non-commercial filesharing is illegal piracy or legal and positive cultural activity depends entirely on how we as societies define it in our laws. Copyright itself is an artificial construct from the early days of the printing press, a government-granted temporary monopoly to encourage publishers to print more books to the people with the carrot of making some profits behind the protective shield of a temporary monopoly. The true long-term beneficiary was supposed to be us, the people, not the companies to whom the temporary monopolies were granted. Somewhere along the long way this principle got twisted real badly though, and now we are in a situation where the publishers who were supposed to compete with each other are consolidated into cartels that bribe our politicians to write copyright laws that suffocate competition and creativity instead of encouraging them. This is what the guys behind Pirate Bay are really interested in and keen to fix in Sweden, and if they manage to do it in Sweden, it will be a great example for the rest of the world to follow. The defiant Pirate Bay has of course been a big provocative spike in the corporate asses of the media cartels who otherwise have quite succesfully managed to control the mainstream media and public discussion into harmless non-political contexts, where naughty pirates get caught for stealing corporate intellectual property etc. As long as they manage to keep up this media atmosphere where people feel guilty of stealing something from somebody while copying music or movies for their own personal use from each other, the cartels have nothing to worry. But when people start to perceive this sort of 'piracy' as a positive thing and to do it as a nationally hobby like the Swedes have done already for some time, the time is close for real political changes where the twisted copyright legislation can be fixed again to serve its basically good original purposes. |
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