where have all the liberals gone?

[albed]

With Ramona's departure I'm inclined to wonder 'where have all the liberals gone?'.

Still plenty of sniping at Bush's policies but never any liberal alternatives.

No more defense of taking money from people who earn it and giving it to people who don't.

No more clamoring for reducing military spending and increasing welfare spending.

No more arguments for giving compassion to criminals instead of punishment.

Do liberals today stand for anything except opposing conservatives?

Does anyone here still embrace liberal values?







PS. Does the "BTK Killer" Dennis Rader make anyone else think of Ramona? It's been nagging at me for a long time.

[legion]

Originally Posted by albed

With Ramona's departure I'm inclined to wonder 'where have all the liberals gone?'.

still here! just lurking

Still plenty of sniping at Bush's policies but never any liberal alternatives.

Bush just sux .. there happy now ?

No more defense of taking money from people who earn it and giving it to people who don't.

isn't it just weird that you peeps spent more on defense than on health, welfare and education combined?

No more clamoring for reducing military spending and increasing welfare spending.

read above

No more arguments for giving compassion to criminals instead of punishment.

One day they walk out of prison, so why turn them into f*cked up buffed up screwed up murdering mindless droids

Do liberals today stand for anything except opposing conservatives?

NO!

Does anyone here still embrace liberal values?

YES!

i don't hate republicans, i am just indifferent same result, less effort

[Nicobie]

she mostly ran off at the mouth.

T'was fun.

[albed]

Originally Posted by toy boy

isn't it just weird that you peeps spent more on defense than on health, welfare and education combined?

No. I've probably spent more on guns and ammo myself than on books, magazines, plus medical/dental expenses.

But unlike you, I have the freedom to do that dont' I?

Originally Posted by toy boy

One day they walk out of prison, so why turn them into f*cked up buffed up screwed up murdering mindless droids

So we'll have a reason to execute them later.

It should be done sooner but it's the damn liberals you know.

Originally Posted by toy boy

i don't hate republicans, i am just indifferent same result, less effort

Lazy.

[legion]

Originally Posted by albed

No. I've probably spent more on guns and ammo myself than on books, magazines, plus medical/dental expenses.

But unlike you, I have the freedom to do that dont' I?

True, i can't buy guns legally here unless you are a member of a gun club. but guess what? I like it that way.

Originally Posted by albed

So we'll have a reason to execute them later.

It should be done sooner but it's the damn liberals you know.

Yeah we value life ... any life for that matter of fact. silly us

Originally Posted by albed

Lazy.

True again! you are on a roll tonight

[albed]

Originally Posted by toy boy

Yeah we value life ... any life for that matter of fact. silly us

Silly alright. Once some scumbag rapes your daughter or beats you half to death for your wallet, maybe you'll start distinguishing between lives you should value and lives you should eliminate for the good of humanity.



But when your government disarms you and renders you helpless it really doesn't matter what you value. You just have to hope that your life is valued. Good luck.

[Mazer]

albed, you know you can troll conservatives too, like you used to do with me. The real challenge, of course, is figuring out how to discredit somebody who agrees with you without labeling them a liar.

It's like you don't even try anymore.

[legion]

Originally Posted by albed

Silly alright. Once some scumbag rapes your daughter or beats you half to death for your wallet, maybe you'll start distinguishing between lives you should value and lives you should eliminate for the good of humanity.

Oh yeah that's right i have never been confronted with crime ... lemme see ... in my old job i had treats on life about each and every day ... some jerk tried to rob me from my wallet early in the morning in a park by knife point ... some jerk broke into my house ... i got beat up once or twice (admitted i was drunk and pretty much asking for it.)

still i am here, i am not afraid to go outside and have fun, i still don't lock the doors at night and i am not mentally damaged (well not by crime anyways ) and still i am happy and don't own a gun.
I just don't think that every illegal act has to be met with capital punishment, not even rape. Maybe women beg to differ?

But even you Albed have to agree with me that capital punishment doesn't work. Are all the death rows in America empty? how much crime was prevented because the state could fry your ass? If i am allowed to have a guess from my side of the pond, pretty much NONE!!!

But when your government disarms you and renders you helpless it really doesn't matter what you value. You just have to hope that your life is valued. Good luck.

Some truth in there just al little to black and white. Yes my Gov. does reneders me unarmed on the other hand not every assholes who is willing to steal place empty walks in at night carrying a piece nor does every asshole who tries to rob me in the park will put a gun in my face.
See, there are two sides on a medal