Is It time for Canada to become USA's 52nd state?

[Nicobie]

It seems that the time is right. They always have ridden on the US's coat tails and have usually always gotten the better part of the bargain. If The USA went away, their economy would shut down, refuges would would be trying to sneak into the US. I can see it now, desperate Quebecers swimming the St Laurence river. Instead of 'wetbacks' I figure we would call them 'popsicles'.

Which brings up why I think that should be the 52nd state and not the 51st. Mexico deserves the next statehood. After all they actually used to own a lot of the southwest and are in the process of moving back in. The US has been supporting them, as we have Canada for centuries. I figure Mexico would bring a positive vibe to the country. At least they are willing to work and have decent food.

[multi]

how can one sneak in to the USA if it 'went away'

[miss_silver]

Like you did Hawaii?

Aboriginal Rights Hawai'i
America's Illegal Colony In The Constitutional Monarchy Of Lili`uokalani
© Tyson Yunkaporta
By Amy Marsh
Images of war-torn Iraq? A’ole! No! It's just business as usual in the so-called “state” of Hawai’i.

Families forced from their homes...live military ordnance left to explode near schools and homes, maiming or killing the occasional civilian...huge Stryker vehicles rolling relentlessly over a fragile landscape as the United States imposes an alien, imperialist government that brings oppression, genocide and ecological destruction to the local population and environment...

Iraq? A'ole! No! These are current conditions in the so-called "state" of Hawai'i. Visitors to Hawai'i, and those who settle there from the mainland, often remain blissfully unaware of the true history of this place. Or if they begin to hear a bit about it, consider the American occupation as a "done deal" and go about their business.

The worst public health statistics in the region...the lowest education level...the highest incarceration rate...most poverty...the most children in foster care...the most people without homes...families and communities torn apart by drugs imported by organized crime...

Typical inhabitants of any American inner city? Nope! They are the original inhabitants of "America's Vacation Paradise:" they are the "kanaka maoli," the Native Hawaiians.

A small country with a vibrant spiritual culture forcibly overthrown by a superpower bent on conquest for military and economic reasons...the people forced to assimilate foreign ways contrary to their basic values, denied access to their culture, history and even their language...a Diaspora of exiles...a struggle for de-occupation and the re-establishment of their government and sovereign status...

Tibet in 1959? Guess again. It's the Kingdom of Hawai'i, which was a modern constitutional monarchy and declared neutral nation engaged in treaty relationships with over fifty other countries - violently seized in 1893; illegally annexed by the United States through a domestic resolution; forced into "statehood" in 1959 in violation of United Nations rules... Given an "apology" for all this by the Clinton administration in 1993...

A bit of history: on January 17, 1893, Queen Lili`uokalani was forced from her throne by American businessmen and business-minded missionary sons, with the help of John L. Stevens, the American Minister to the Hawaiian Kingdom, and the American navy. The overthrow was violent, unjustified, insulting, and in complete violation of international law. U.S. President Benjamin Harrison apparently gave unofficial encouragement to the conspirators in 1892 and after the overthrow he presented their annexation petition to the U.S. Senate. But incoming President Grover Cleveland was appalled. He withdrew the petition before the Senate could act, called for an investigation, and issued a powerful statement to reinstate the queen and the rightful government. But the treasonous provisional government refused to comply.

President Cleveland was also opposed by powerful interests within the United States who were loathe to part with their juicy prize.

In 1897, approximately 21,000 Hawaiians - more than half the adult Hawaiian population - signed and presented a petition protesting annexation to the United States. Congress ignored them. Despite the petition evidence to the contrary, it was far more lucrative for Congress to accept the assurances of missionary lobbyists who claimed the Hawaiians were eager for annexation.

This "Ku'e Petition" of resistance to annexation - 556 pages long, and possibly one of the most significant documents of protest in American, as well as Hawaiian, history - was buried deeply in the U.S. National Archives until it was found by Noenoe Silva in 1998, over a hundred years later. The discovery of the petition, and the exhibition of this document by the Bishop Museum in Honolulu, had an enormous impact on the kanaka maoli, who searched the pages eagerly for the names of their grandparents and great-grandparents. As Silva puts it, "The petition, inscribed with the names of everyone's kupuna, gave people permission from their ancestors to participate in the quest for national sovereignty. More important, it affirmed for them that their kupuna had not stood by idly, apathetically, while their nation was taken from them."

Now, not every Native Hawaiian or part-Hawaiian is a sovereignty activist working toward restoration of the kingdom. Many have adjusted to colonization and consider themselves Americans. At most, they may be supporters of the dangerous Akaka bill, thinking to preserve Hawaiian "entitlements" through a federal recognition process that will turn them into the equivalent of American Indians.

But there are many others who recognize the bill for what it is - a way to finalize the land grab of the Kingdom and take title of contested kanaka maoli lands once and for all - and who are vigorously opposed to the bill. They do not consider themselves "American" and continue to insist upon being recognized as subjects of the Kingdom. As one man put it to me, when I asked him about his livelihood, "I work for the Queen." In other words, he has devoted the rest of his life to the restoration of his country. He is not alone.

It is easy for people from the mainland to ignore or dismiss the history of Hawai'i, yet the illegal occupation of Hawai'i continues to have a huge detrimental effect on the people, the environment and the culture. The struggle for Hawaiian independence is a long standing, bitterly fought cause which deserves wider recognition and support from the rest of the world. Free Hawai'i, now.

Note: Portions of this article were originally published in Slingshot, Berkeley, CA, Fall 2005.

Article shared with this site by Waihili.

http://aboriginalrights.suite101.com..._rights_hawaii

No thanks, the price tag is a bit too high

[Mazer]

If Hawaii hadn't been a US territory with a large naval base at the time that WWII began then Hawaii would now be occupied by the empire of Japan, along with most of the Pacific islands and large swaths of southern China. And there's no telling what condition Europe would be in. Native Hawaiians may think they're living on the most isolated place in the world, but truthfully Hawaii was the fulcrum of the 20th century and things could have been much worse, for the rest of the world and for them.

[Nicobie]

What do the American islands have to do with that ittie bitty country wuth hardly any people called canada?

[miss_silver]

Originally Posted by Nicobie

What do the American islands have to do with that ittie bitty country wuth hardly any people called canada?

American Islands?, At what cost ?!?

Canada is not an itsy bitsy country as you referred it was. France first established a colonie over here and guess what, no witch hunt Then we were invaded by the brits, they took away out religion and right to speak french, as Lord Durham said, assimilation through immigration. Them the 13th colonies happened. Then there were tension between the colonies and england. Then quebec act came releasing us from the TEST OATH which INFLAMED the colonies. (check out wikipidia) This was the final nail IMO that sparked the American revolution.

As for the rest of Canada, they are composed of english immigrant and Loyalists that were kicked out of the US because of their support toward England. Then came the Irish one of my roots, Chinese, Italians...

Canadians are very proud to say, I AM CANADIAN as much as Americans will say how much they are proud to be Americans.

BTW, Mexico is really getting a sweet deal these days, awwwwwwwww


http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/2006122...ttle&printer=1

Now those hot popsicles can get a fat check at home, illegals or not.

As for Hawaii, i'm sure they would have passed the honor of becoming a state if they had a choice. WWII or not, they still were invaded in the rudest way possible and that wasn't done by the Japs either.


So NIC

Canada is basically a bunch of rejected US citizens, English immigrants, Quebec our royal thorn in their @ss and immigrants from various countries.

And in the end.....

The american indian natives, the Hawaiians would be bewildered reading this shit as to whom was here first for they were in the beginning way before small pox hit that nation that truly was america.

NIC, that shit happened, deal with it. If you consider Hawaiians as citizen of the US, atleast deal with their past and how they became a part of your 'great' land of the free country.

Like I said, the price tag is way to high, let mexico be the 51th state for now.

J'adore la façon dont certaine personne se croit le nombril du monde a cause de son affiliation partisanne LOL!!!

[Mazer]

Well if you wanted to get technical, if Mexico were admitted to the union it would comprise states 51 through 81, not that it's ever gonna happen. Canada would then be states 81 through 94.

Nic, 50 states is plenty. Canada and Mexico already have republics of their own with democratically elected governments; they don't need ours. Individuals who want to become Americans have plenty of opportunities to do so, but not all Mexicans want to be Americans, and obviously most Canadians don't want to be Americans.

What's with this fascist desire to absorb all of North America into the United States?