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Old 10-03-04, 11:32 PM   #21
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Kerry calls Republican critics 'crooked, lying'

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Washington-AP -- The chairman of President Bush's re-election campaign is calling on John Kerry to apologize, after Kerry offered some harsh comments about his Republican critics.

During an appearance in Chicago, Kerry was responding to a supporter who urged him to take on Bush. Kerry replied: "Let me tell you, we've just begun to fight. We're going to keep pounding. These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen. It's scary." Kerry spokesman David Wade later said the senator was referring to Republican critics in general.

The Bush-Cheney campaign answered back, saying, "John Kerry has run a relentlessly negative campaign from the very beginning and this comment is completely consistent with that."

Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot (RAHS'-koh) demanded an apology, calling Kerry's comment "unbecoming of a candidate for the presidency of the United States."

lol, so kerry must consider these guys "the most crooked, you know, lying group" he's ever seen as well.....


Harshest Attacks on Kerry Come From Democrats

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Friday, March 5, 2004

WASHINGTON – John Kerry has been described as a waffler who blathers, a son of privilege who won't stand up to millionaires, a Washington insider who's a handmaiden to special interests and an inconsistent candidate whose word is no good.

All of that comes from fellow Democrats.


Here is what Wesley Clark had to say about Kerry (and fellow rival John Edwards) on Feb. 5:

"The American people don't want another Washington insider who never plays it straight. They don't want a follower who makes decisions by licking his finger and sticking it up in the wind."

This is what Clark had to say about Kerry eight days later, after abandoning his own quest for the presidency: "I believe John Kerry has the right experience, the right values and the right leadership and character to beat George W. Bush."

More comments from Clark:


"We need leadership that will take responsibility in this country, and I'm very disturbed that John did not do that." – on Kerry's comments related to racial preferences.

"With all due respect, he's a lieutenant, and I'm a general."

"Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards are good men, but they don't have the leadership to stand up to millionaires."

"I don't think people understand in this country how politicians in Washington can say one thing and do something else."

"Part of the Washington way of doing things." – again on Kerry and Edwards.


Comments from Edwards:


"What he's saying now [on trade] is different than what he did in the past."

"Do you believe that change is more likely to be brought about by someone who has spent 20 years in Washington or by someone who is more of an outsider to this process?"

"I don't take contributions from lobbyists. He obviously does."

"I think he's said some different things at different points in time. So I think there's been some inconsistency."


Here's a sampling of what Dean had to say about Kerry in earlier days:


"President Kerry. Please, spare us."

"He's going to turn out to be just like George Bush."

"John Kerry is part of the corrupt political culture in Washington."

"It appears that his word is no good."

"I'm just incensed by his hypocrisy."

"This is not the person we need to head the Democratic Party. I think Senator Kerry is clearly not the person to carry the banner of the Democratic Party because he has acted so much like a Republican."

"Senator Kerry apparently supports the kind of corrupt fund raising, politically corrupt fund-raising mechanisms that George Bush has also employed."

"We are not going to beat George Bush by nominating someone who is the handmaiden of special interests."

"A special-interest clone."

"A candidate of no principle."

"Just another inside-the-Beltway guy who's played the game for 15 years."


Other Democrat also-rans now backing Kerry include Rep. Dick Gephardt and Sen. Joe Lieberman. That would be the same Gephardt whose mailings said Kerry is "no friend to family farmers" and the same Lieberman who called Kerry a "waffler."


More comments from Gephardt:

"We can keep pursuing George Bush's tired, old, failed economic policies like Senator Kerry and other Democrats in this race have suggested. Or we can learn from the policies that worked for us."

"Kerry's explanation of how he'll pay for his [health] plan doesn't add up. He's trying to have it both ways."

"I don't think cheap sound bites hiding expensive plans are the answer." – on health-care proposals from Kerry and Dean.


Comments from Lieberman:

"This is about the votes [on Iraq] that he's cast that I believe are inconsistent."

"We also don't need a waffler in charge of our country's future."

"I do think that Senator Kerry was sounding an uncertain trumpet about that particular battle." – on the Iraq war resolution.
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Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot (RAHS'-koh) demanded an apology, calling Kerry's comment "unbecoming of a candidate for the presidency of the United States."
i got a kick out of that. apparently it's ok to like like a rug when you're president bush, but a candidate who points it out is, in raciot's tunnel vision, excersing poor taste.

just this week the head of the cia revealed he had to ah "correct" vice president cheney. cheney was telling intelligence whoppers last weekend - again. here's a thought: when bush and cheney stop the lying, people might stop calling them liars. they've been lying so long it might be too late for that, but still, they ought to at least try to stop. it's simply unbecoming for a head of state.

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Old 11-03-04, 01:02 AM   #23
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just this week the head of the cia revealed he had to ah "correct" vice president cheney. cheney was telling intelligence whoppers last weekend - again.
tenet, (a clinton administration holdover) should have been fired 9/12/2001. ever consider the possibilty that tenet is the one telling the intelligence whoppers?


TENET, UNREPENTANT


February 6, 2004 -- The buck used to stop at the top.
No more.

The fact that Central Intelligence Agency Director George Tenet still has a job proves that.

It was on Tenet's watch that terrorists carried out the deadliest surprise attack on America since Pearl Harbor.

Yet Tenet has never so much as apologized for that massive failure.

Now it appears that the intelligence community overestimated the extent and success of Saddam's weapons-of-mass-destruction programs (though not Saddam's desire for WMDs and the means of delivering them).

This doesn't begin to undermine the case for establishing a strong U.S. military presence in the Middle East, but it is unquestionably another major failure.



Tenet, speaking yesterday at Georgetown University, said "in the intelligence business, you are almost never completely wrong or completely right."

Who can disagree with that?

Then, however, Tenet displayed a bit of his true character, asserting that the CIA never claimed that Iraq posed an "imminent threat."

Not his agency. No, siree.

What a butt-covering weasel.

While the popular perception is that the White House termed Saddam to be an "imminent threat," the popular perception is flat-footed wrong.

For Tenet to imply otherwise to save his own skin is just despicable.

What Tenet was desperately trying to obscure is that the CIA, with all its huge resources, had no clue about what was really going on in Iraq's WMD programs.

And that, in the end, is his fault.

Just as, in the end, the United States simply can't afford a dysfunctional CIA.

And certainly not a CIA director more concerned with his own reputation than with the nation's safety.

George Tenet already has two strikes on him. Can America afford a third?


http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/15963.htm
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just this week the head of the cia revealed he had to ah "correct" vice president cheney. cheney was telling intelligence whoppers last weekend - again. here's a thought: when bush and cheney stop the lying, people might stop calling them liars. they've been lying so long it might be too late for that, but still, they ought to at least try to stop. it's simply unbecoming for a head of state.

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yeah, he also said he didn't think the administration exaggerated any intelligence material. nice of you to overlook that.
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nice of you to overlook that.
tenet's a diplomat...

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tenet, (a clinton administration holdover) should have been fired 9/12/2001
ah. i get it. it's all clinton's fault, bush has no responsibility. since according to this theory clinton is running the country, george bush is going to be the first president in american history who "wasn't there." well, if you say so scooby. probably learned that trick ducking the guard.

hey i know, since he's still the president you can spend another four years and forty million of the taxpayer's money impeaching clinton again. you guys had so much fun the last time you tried it. c'mon, you love that stuff, and it gets the country's mind off the problems caused by republicans, like all those new jobs we have and that disappearing "middle class tax break." what a whopper that one was lol.

or just vote for kerry, since bush can't rid himself of clinton let's elect someone who can.

in any event, intelligence was cleary misused by the present administration, and is still being misused. re: cheney.

cheney was chosen by bush, and bush was chosen by republican voters. clinton bears zero culpabiliity for this cockup.

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in any event, intelligence was cleary misused by the present administration, and is still being misused. re: cheney.
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In a sharp exchange with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat, Mr. Tenet said he did not believe intelligence was misused by the Bush administration to launch the war with Iraq.

Tenet warns of al Qaeda's 'spectacular attacks' plans


CIA Director George J. Tenet warned Congress yesterday that the threat of al Qaeda terrorists acquiring weapons of mass destruction is growing and the group continues planning "spectacular attacks" against the United States and its allies.

"Over the last year, we've ... seen an increase in the threat of more sophisticated chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear capability," he said. "For this reason, we take very seriously the threat of a [chemical, biological or nuclear] attack."

Mr. Tenet noted that captured al Qaeda members have said the United States remains the group's "main enemy," and al Qaeda's effort to produce deadly anthrax bacteria is "one of the most immediate" terrorist threats.

He also said al Qaeda remains decentralized and dangerous. "Across the operational spectrum — air, maritime, special weapons — we have time and again uncovered plots that are chilling."

Mr. Tenet spoke in testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, where he again defended U.S. intelligence agencies from partisan critics who said the CIA and other agencies misread intelligence indicating Iraq had stockpiles of chemical and biological arms.

"I think it's too early to make judgments about what happened to Iraqi arms stockpiles," Mr. Tenet said.

"We want to know whether we were right or wrong. We want to know what the disposition of these programs were. We do need to understand whether there was any secondary proliferation, which would be of great concern to us."

Sen. Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat and ranking member of the committee, said American credibility was damaged by what he called "the intelligence fiasco" of not finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after predicting the arms were there before the war.

"Initiating a war on the basis of faulty or exaggerated intelligence is a very serious matter," Mr. Levin said. "Life and death decisions are based on intelligence. The fact that intelligence assessments before the war were so wildly off the mark should trouble all Americans."

In a sharp exchange with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat, Mr. Tenet said he did not believe intelligence was misused by the Bush administration to launch the war with Iraq.

Mr. Kennedy said Mr. Tenet failed to correct exaggerated statements made by Vice President Dick Cheney and other policy-makers that the senator said were tantamount to "warmongering."

Regarding a classified Pentagon intelligence report produced in October 2003 that suggested there were operational links between Saddam Hussein's government and al Qaeda, Mr. Tenet said the CIA "did not agree with the way the data was characterized in that document."

Mr. Tenet said the relationship between Saddam and al Qaeda included "contacts, training and safe haven," as well as help for al Qaeda collaborator Abu Musaab Zarqawi, his role in the assassination of a U.S. diplomat in Jordan and operations in Baghdad.

On the terrorists' pursuit of chemical, biological and nuclear arms, Mr. Tenet said networks of people are helping terrorists with scientific knowledge and their hunt for material in areas stretching from the Near East to Europe.

Osama bin Laden has said that to acquire chemical, germ or nuclear arms is a religious obligation, and in addition to al Qaeda, more than two dozen terrorist groups are seeking chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear materials, Mr. Tenet said.

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tenet's pleasing two masters...

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righto.

substitute "used" for "characterized."

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just this week the head of the cia revealed he had to ah "correct" vice president cheney.


tenet's pleasing two masters...


tenet's a diplomat...


in any event, intelligence was cleary misused by the present administration, and is still being misused

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