Zeropaid.com forums work with Digital Rights Management

[monyak]

Lately, there has been a lot of talk about Zeropaid.com working with the RIAA and selling IP addresses.

Here is part of an article I found about Zeropaid.com and all of the proof that is needed showing that Zeropaid.com does work with the bad guys.


In effort to promote Digital Rights Management, Mr. Chris Hedgecock, owner of Zeropaid.com, travels around the United States to various cities and meets directly with the Media companies and their investors to convince them to purchase his Pay 2 Play methods. On October 8th, at 1:30 p.m., Mr. Hedgecock is scheduled to appear and speak on behalf of Digital Rights Management at Content Worlds seminar on new technology. http://www.contentworld.com/conferen...on_glance.html


In a AVNONLINE.COM interview with Mr. Chris Hedgecock, the owner of Zeropaid.com requested that all DRM activists and investors come to his teen portal to learn the habits of P2Prs so that they can be used against the P2P community.

Christopher Hedgecock, executive vice president of EmpireDRM (www.empiredrm.com), recommended Webmasters visit sites like ZeroPaid.com and subscribe to newsletters like DRMDaily (www.drmdaily.com) to familiarize themselves with the concepts behind P2P networks and their popularity, and then begin transforming their content into material that will promote their businesses and make them money even if it's stolen and traded on the big commercial networks.
By flooding P2P networks with DRM-protected content that forces out the illegal "free" stuff, Webmasters can head off file swappers at the pass, creating a sort of "pay-to-peer" network, according to Hunter. Hunter's company, for example, has developed DRM software that wraps legitimate content in such a way that it becomes more popular than the pirated versions in the file-sharing networks' search engines. When users open the legitimate editions, they can be made to pay for the content or provide personal information (like e-mail addresses) before they are allowed to view it.

"People are going to steal your stuff; they're going to trade it," Tucker said. "DRM makes P2P a good thing because your content is protected and 'viral.' The only way people can tackle P2P is to stop fighting it. It's out there; it's going to stay. "Don't fight the train," he said. "It's left the station."

The full article can be found here...
http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...0403_003.shtml

So the stories about Zeropaid.com owners working and cooperating with the RIAA & MPAA are true afterall. Be safe and stay away from their forums.

[Dawn]

I've seen that before. I know they deny it, but it sure makes me think twice about it.

Btw, to say I'm impressed with what you've done with your download site would be an understatement. Great work.

[TankGirl]

My firewall has caught suspicious port scans coming from Zeropaid's domain on several occasions. Now why would Zeropaid make port scans on people who visit their website?

- tg

[napho]

Originally posted by TankGirl
My firewall has caught suspicious port scans coming from Zeropaid's domain on several occasions. Now why would Zeropaid make port scans on people who visit their website?

- tg

Scanning TG's ports is an egregious outrage! It's the equivalent of putting your grubby hands all over her body....wait, bad example, she'd LIKE that
At the very least running a p2p portal and working for digital rights is a conflict of interest and is bound to raise suspicion. Talk about working both sides of the fence.

[walktalker]

Originally posted by napho
wait, bad example, she'd LIKE that

You sure ?

I went on ZP's websites numberous times, purely on news gathering purposes. I'm better doing a detour now, but I'll have to find another P2P-supportive website with news links in it. Not always easy

[multi]

ofcourse you know we know that Jorge Gonzalez owns ZP

zeropaid.com

Zeropaid, Inc.
Jorge Antonio Gonzalez
5010 Cadet St.
San Diego, CA 92117
US
Phone: 858-272-4085
Fax..: 760-588-3733
Email: info@zeropaid.com

in effort to promote Digital Rights Management, Mr. Chris Hedgecock, owner of Zeropaid.com...

or you are saying he works for this guy?


so where in that article did it say jorge requested they come there ....

... wheres some proof that he is logging peoples IP for them?

u only have this article that u seem to be misquoting....

[JackSpratts]

a lot of zp'ers are nu members. i'm sure someone can step up to the board and shed some light on the issue?

- js.

[AweShucks]

Isn't this old news??? Like by a couple of months???


I for one do not like Zeropaid it is little more than a rubbish pile of flames and 1st post bullshit. So I'm not defending them, but it is a useful site to link through to news articles without browsing the news sites themselves.

What purpose would it serve them to say sell my IP to the RIAA?? Certainly the RIAA can't hack my system to look for illegal files that would be ILLEGAL! Just by knowing my IP doesn't mean they know where I am or what I'm doing. If they catch me on a p2p network thats different.

As for the scavenged together news stories well

So the stories about Zeropaid.com owners working and cooperating with the RIAA & MPAA are true afterall. Be safe and stay away from their forums.

And what use the ES5 forums ?????????

[assorted]

This rumor doesn't quite makes sense to me.

As for them port scanning, hmm... couldn't that be some kinda ad server type thingie? they have some very intrusive popups.

I could see ZP portscanning to see what p2p progs you were actively using while browsing, but it seems the resources it would take to portscan and log all their surfers wouldn't be worth the info they recieved back... i mean, that's a giant job...

[napho]

This might put TG's scanning thing into some perspective.

evil plot

[TankGirl]

Originally posted by assorted
As for them port scanning, hmm... couldn't that be some kinda ad server type thingie? they have some very intrusive popups.

That is quite possible - it might be an intrusive advertiser as well. If this is the case, I hope Zeropaid knows what their paying customers are doing. Port scanning is naturally just peanuts (as a privacy violation) compared to spyware installations á la Kazaa & Grokster but anyway - I don't like to see any unrequested scans coming from important p2p sites. These sites of all should guard their member privacy with extra care.

- tg

[multi]

Originally posted by napho
This might put TG's scanning thing into some perspective.

evil plot

LOL - wtf!
how did you do that?

That is quite possible - it might be an intrusive advertiser as well.

cydoor?

[napho]

Originally posted by multi
LOL - wtf!
how did you do that?



cydoor?

Make your own multi. http://www.fanta.dk/default.htm

[cheapprick]

Monyak, Sharepro, Steve15, whatever you call yourself this week:

You are a troll. I imagine you are at least pleased to have found a site that takes you partially seriously. (I guess you got sick of Slyck closing these threads and UTC deleting them)

Personally, I find this thread far more interesting, but you never bother to link to it. Nor to the allegations that you dos'ed several BitTorrent sites.

I am unwilling to speak for ZP, but just speaking as a person who has tried your app (4 times now), here are some hot suggestions:

1) Work on your program more, work on your PR less.

2) Streaming, for as cool as it is, is not p2p. Good thing you have that 15 million in the east.

3) Anyone can do inventive "journalism", but the shite you have been stretching to blind the less intellectually gifted lately is shameful. Maybe you should direct that energy into your "War on the MPAA and the Porn Industry". Maybe begin a "War on the RIAA".

4) Someday, hopefully soon, realize that the multitude of portal sites like this one, ZP, Slyck and UTC will always exist. You aren't going to swing everyone over to any one single app. Nor can you attack these sites just because they don't take you by the hand and sing cumbayah. spelling?

5) How many people or apps are even heavily dependent on WM files? I only know of one. They stream WM files. Most other people won't trade that shite because of the low quality.

Keep trolling.

BTW- the underground looks good, you changed the background?

[TankGirl]

Originally posted by cheapprick
BTW- the underground looks good, you changed the background?

The background artwork of this forum is a creation of the multidimensional and multitalented Ramona A Stone.

- tg

[cheapprick]

I thought it was quite a liberal design. lol

[AweShucks]

Originally posted by cheapprick
Monyak, Sharepro, Steve15, whatever you call yourself this week:

You are a troll.

The NU resident ES5 spambot

[TankGirl]

Originally posted by AweShucks
The NU resident ES5 spambot

Well that is true...

And to avoid misunderstandings, I trust Jorge and the Zeropaid staff much more (as pro p2p people) than any of the spamming representatives of ES5. If you want secure p2p use WASTE, not ES5.

- tg

[multi]

Originally posted by TankGirl
If you want secure p2p use WASTE, not ES5.

- tg

[multi]

Originally posted by napho
Make your own multi. http://www.fanta.dk/default.htm

evil plot too

fun