Wolfgang's Vault

[Ramona_A_Stone]

Well, I WISH YOU GUYS WOULDA NEVER BROUGHT THIS UP. You're ruining my WHOLE LIFE!



Much to my chagrin SoundForge will not record the stream. (This I learned after wrestling all day with routers, cables and drills etc. plus a fair amount of cursing, finally getting online, realizing my 'Media Center Edition' soundcard/software is hateful to me and I barely know how I've gotten it to do what I normally require of it in the first place, downloading about twelve freeware stream recorders and promptly removing them upon dismal failure, posting at several forums and sounding like a complete newbie, reading a great deal and realizing that it is in fact my soundcard and not anything particularly tricky about SoundForge which relieved me somewhat because I knew I could do it on my old machine, and finally submitting to the fact that even though I'm sure there's a magical setting somewhere that I can't find, I really can't find it.)

Long and short of it, if you're running SoundForge (or really just about any recorder) and you have that simple old mixer option of "what you hear" and can route it to your recorder then you would have no problem making that the input and recording it. Like duh. Alas, I have not this option anymore, and I long for a simpler time. The Media Center Edition only allows a choice between MS soundmapper and a handful of physical jacks as I/O, none of which of course is carrying the stream. If there are advantages to the MCE they are currently escaping memory.

I also looked into a thing called Proxomitron which is supposed to be able to tell you the real primary address of a file coming in from a proprietary player, but it confused and frightened me and I made it go away. Maybe someone smarter than me ought to check that out.

So, regardless of the fact that I have a DAT sitting right here I could (relatively) easily use to record the streams, I'm just going to pout and be irked and probably not break down and actually do it until I'm convinced there's no other way, which could conceivably take a couple more days of torture.

[theknife]

Originally Posted by Ramona_A_Stone

Well, I WISH YOU GUYS WOULDA NEVER BROUGHT THIS UP. You're ruining my WHOLE LIFE!



Much to my chagrin SoundForge will not record the stream. (This I learned after wrestling all day with routers, cables and drills etc. plus a fair amount of cursing, finally getting online, realizing my 'Media Center Edition' soundcard/software is hateful to me and I barely know how I've gotten it to do what I normally require of it in the first place, downloading about twelve freeware stream recorders and promptly removing them upon dismal failure, posting at several forums and sounding like a complete newbie, reading a great deal and realizing that it is in fact my soundcard and not anything particularly tricky about SoundForge which relieved me somewhat because I knew I could do it on my old machine, and finally submitting to the fact that even though I'm sure there's a magical setting somewhere that I can't find, I really can't find it.)

Long and short of it, if you're running SoundForge (or really just about any recorder) and you have that simple old mixer option of "what you hear" and can route it to your recorder then you would have no problem making that the input and recording it. Like duh. Alas, I have not this option anymore, and I long for a simpler time. The Media Center Edition only allows a choice between MS soundmapper and a handful of physical jacks as I/O, none of which of course is carrying the stream. If there are advantages to the MCE they are currently escaping memory.

I also looked into a thing called Proxomitron which is supposed to be able to tell you the real primary address of a file coming in from a proprietary player, but it confused and frightened me and I made it go away. Maybe someone smarter than me ought to check that out.

So, regardless of the fact that I have a DAT sitting right here I could (relatively) easily use to record the streams, I'm just going to pout and be irked and probably not break down and actually do it until I'm convinced there's no other way, which could conceivably take a couple more days of torture.

i feel your pain...

as i posted earlier, i struck out with Total Recorder....but this Zeropaid post references Audacity with confidence - will try that tomorrow and report...

[multi]

NO DON'T USE THAT !
ffs..

[theknife]

Originally Posted by multi

NO DON'T USE THAT !
ffs..

why?

[theknife]

ok, Total Recorder does work...the only problem is that the output file intermittently erupts in static at different points in the song. not sure why....

edit: it's wierd...about a minute in, a horrible screeching erupts....like some kind of insidious drm?

[goldie]

you just gotta work it.

i just made a .wav file from a part of a concert.

make sure you're not trying to do other stuff at same time, shut down the VS's, FW's all other stuff.





edit to delete - yall sorted it out.

[goldie]

whoops......just noticed knife's posting time.

no sound problems here though.

[JackSpratts]

maybe the easiest for now is to output your audio to the input of another pc and proceed from there. digitally preferably (fiber optic i/o) but analog if need be. i've been doing some more taping via the video recorder and it sounds just like the stream. i'm sure the sound quality will be as good and you'll have the added benefit of having it on your harddrive where you can do your edits etc (those gaps need to be trimmed for instance).

i wouldn't be surprised if many of these concerts exist on file-sharing networks already. as a matter of fact a private tracker is throwing a free holiday party this week so i picked up a couple of external hard drives just for the occasion and immediately found elton john's filmore concert @256. it hasn't finished yet so i have no idea how it sounds - but this particular tracker is infamous for enforcing its quality policy and i'd be surprised if it wasn't first rate (for lossy anyway).

one other thing i've found is that this stream can often stop, ruining any recording, so i really have to listen as i tape unless i like surprises. if that's not practical, like during overnight ripping you can still record automatically and get a good copy if you remember to inspect the browser before closing because if the stream does stop it'll show precisely where in the player window. now that's a feature lol! it's not a big deal to then rewind to the last gap before the interuption and restart, but i've had to re-record 2, 3 or more times before i got a full stream.

this would apply to any type of capture, even a direct streamrip.

- js.

edit: just saw goldie's post. nice going!

[goldie]

Originally Posted by JackSpratts

one other thing i've found is that this stream can often stop, ruining any recording, so i really have to listen as i tape unless i like surprises. if that's not practical, like during overnight ripping you can still record automatically and get a good copy if you remember to inspect the browser before closing because if the stream does stop it'll show precisely where in the player window. now that's a feature lol! it's not a big deal to then rewind to the last gap before the interuption and restart, but i've had to re-record 2, 3 or more times before i got a full stream.

this would apply to any type of capture, even a direct streamrip.

- js.

yea - that's sumtin our end really cannot control. def. sux when it happens..