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01-05-06, 11:33 AM | #1 |
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Iran's War Of Egos...
It is surprising how again and again people's egos get in the way of good judgment. Saddam refused to back down pretending he had weapons of mass destruction. For his ego the people of Iraq are paying dearly, their country now in chaos...
George W. Bush refused to back down against Saddam and refused to listen to the UN inspectors that they couldn't find Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. For his ego the people of the United States are paying dearly, stuck in a war with no good end in sight. Thousand of American casualties, costing billions of dollars sending the country into deficit with little money to rebuild the Katrina devastated Gulf Coast and with Osama bin Laden still operating. On top of all that there is the matter of Iran that like it or not the U.S. will have to deal with militarily... Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad refuses to back down against the United States, the European Union and most of the United Nations. For his ego the people of Iran will pay dearly. President Ahmadinejad wants to build a nuclear weapon. He claims it is Iran's right to have nuclear weapons. He also has said he wants to wipe Israel off of the map. Once you start talking about wiping another country off the map, in the eyes of the world you lose that right to have nuclear capabilities. Sorry Mr. Ahmadinejad it isn't going to happen. The reason it isn't going to happen is once you have nuclear weapons, most people believe Iran would use them on Israel. Doing so would set off a chain reaction that would not only kill millions in Israel and Iran but several countries in the Middle East. That would also damage the flow of oil to countries worldwide including China; that would hurt China's growing economy. China will not let Mr. Ahmadinejad's ego hurt their economy. Iran has missiles that can reach Europe and nobody doubts they wouldn't nuke Europe too. The E.U. isn't going to let one mad man start another world war... Mr. Ahmadinejad may think the U.S. doesn't have the stomach for another war and therefore would never attack Iran. There are some in the United States that would be against war no matter what the reason. That said President Bush doesn’t really care what the American people think. He has said he doesn't follow the polls. It is probably another one of his lies, he probably cares but he doesn't make his decisions based on polls. But he does usually go to war just before an election and guess what? There is a congressional election coming up this November. Mr. Ahmadinejad may want to check his ego and his nuclear ambitions because there are plenty of troops in Iraq that could easily move into Iran and overthrow his government in a moments notice. The one thing about President Bush is he doesn't bluff. Bush isn't going to back down against Ahmadinejad. Bush has a pretty big ego. If Ahmadinejad has as big an ego as Bush has my guess is next fall he will be sharing a cell with Saddam. If Iran gets nuclear weapons, there will be a nuclear war, Ahmadinejad has said he wants to wipe Israel off of the map and I believe him. That means the only option is to take him out before Iran gets nuclear weapons. It also is a way for the U.S. to get out of Iraq. You know Bush is thinking: bring it on... |
01-05-06, 04:56 PM | #2 |
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My god it must be easy to be a liberal these days, just recycle the same old tired talking points from 3 years ago and run with it. Funny how you leave out the Israel option in this, they have a dog in this fight too. They'll get blamed for whatever happens anyway so I could see them sending a couple jets over there to bomb Ahmadinejad toward his glory as the 12th iman.
I don't expect a retort from you though since your modus operandi seems to be post worn out liberal talking points and then never back them up or clarify them. Guess it would suck for you to think on your own. |
01-05-06, 05:58 PM | #3 |
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For the benefit of everyone else who may want to discuss this topic, are there any specific points you disagree with, Hegemonic? I obviously don't agree with most of Repo's opinions but in this case I think he's making predictions and giving his analsys, not necessarily opining on these events (that would be pointless anyway, since none of this has happened yet).
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01-05-06, 06:47 PM | #5 | |
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so if they get these nuclear weapons, if all hell doesn't break lose there first there could be some sort of cold war type of nuclear stand off..not the inevitable immediate dustruction of Israel he might want them off the map but i doubt he will risk having his own country blown off the map in the process |
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01-05-06, 10:02 PM | #9 |
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yawn. another boring, ignorant liberal. Come back when you can back up your regurgitated talking points with anything resembling facts.
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01-05-06, 10:32 PM | #10 |
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Funny that after five years of 'train wreck' and 'disaster' the U.S. is free of terrorist attacks with a healthy economy, low unemployment and is such a great place that millions of foreigners become criminals to live here.
Could the liberals really think this country is in such terrible shape or do they simply have their heads so far up their asses they see nothing but shit? |
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as soon as you all come out of your partisan fantasy lands, maybe you will realize that there is no difference in political parties anymore. most are corrupt and work for the corporations. it sure would be nice to work less than 100 days and vote myself a raise every year.
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02-05-06, 02:07 PM | #13 |
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Yep, they don't possess them currently so OBVIOUSLY the only option is to wait until they actually have them and possibly nuke Israel, as they have stated is their goal in life. Why can't us damn imperialist Americans just learn to trust homicidal radical islamic leaders!!!?!?!!?
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The bi-party gave up on Iraq as soon as the going got tough. I expect the same thing with Iran. |
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Show me where they stated that their goal is to nuke Israel or were you just spinning. BTW who were the original terrorists? There were no terrorists before the Allies took over from the Ottomans. Everything was fine(compared to today) in the middle east before the Brits decided to carve it up after WW1, since then the CIA, KGB, MI6, Mossad ect has made it the place it is today. How about we carve up the U.S. and give the indians a nation. We can throw in your house too. Make you move out and put up a wall so you cant get back in. |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story...601413,00.html
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02-05-06, 03:03 PM | #17 |
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If we were going to do in Iran what we did in Iraq then we would start out by sanctioning Iran with a ten-year-long embargo. Saddam was too stubborn to obey the rules the international community laid down for him, but Iran might be different. It would be best to get the UN, or some other multinational coalition, involved here before cosidering military action.
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Maybe if the Palestinians, who have never actually had a nation called Palestine and are actually mostly of Jordanian descent, had agreed to the numerous offers to have their own country they wouldn't be in the pickle they are today, with their terrorist government broke because they aren't getting undeserved handouts anymore. |
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here's another fun sidebar on the Iran "crisis" for alspan (or is it hegebed?):
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02-05-06, 03:46 PM | #20 |
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Unsubstantiated. "Sources" and "officials"...oh and from RawStory too! a bastion of objectivity!
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