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Old 16-12-05, 12:01 PM   #1
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Let's summarize the past 35 years now: the U.S. government has racked up over $8 trillion in debt; the current trade deficit for 2005 alone will likely exceed $700 billion (importing more than we export); $3.8 trillion of showcase American companies have been sold to foreigners.

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and who owns the debt? China and the Corporations that are now investing heavily in China.

This all ties in with the PNAC's goal of surrounding China and containing them. IMO we will be at war with them in 5-10 years. What a beter way to get rid of the debt than to kill the cretitor, meanwhile eliminating the growing oil consumers. Who will profit? The corporations and the bankers :/ They are good at playing both sides, just like they did in the first two World Wars.

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we can sop using oil and stop shopping at wal mart and avoid this confrontation. but who wants to do that
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Old 17-12-05, 10:43 AM   #2
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We could stop using oil, I bet, but Walmart is still an American company last I checked. All we gotta do is build a thousand Walmarts in China and make the Chinese buy their own crap. After that there wouldn't be enough of it to import and we'll be back to manufacturing goods in our own country.

Sounds kinda isolationist, but would that work for you?
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Old 17-12-05, 12:21 PM   #3
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All we gotta do is build a thousand Walmarts in China and make the Chinese buy their own crap. After that there wouldn't be enough of it to import and we'll be back to manufacturing goods in our own country.
Brilliant
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Old 17-12-05, 04:32 PM   #4
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Sounds kinda isolationist, but would that work for you?
yep
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Old 17-12-05, 11:20 PM   #5
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Not brilliant, I'm afraid. Eventually Walmart would move its headquarters and incorporate in Asia. Their monoploy would flourish and we'd just be exporting our greed to every part of the world. The world economy would be in the hands of the corporate triad: Sony, Toyota, and Walmart. Together they'd corner the markets in intellectual property, manufacturing, and retail, and after that what's left but agriculture and mining? The only way the US economy would survive in that situation would be to rescind all environmental protection laws and harvest North America's natural resources for all they're worth just to resolve the widening trade deficit.

We'd be better off printing billions of $100 bills and giving them to our foreign debtors, because despite what that would do to the value of our currency at least those countries would have the money to buy stuff that we could export. The wealth of the United States doesn't lie in its legal tender or its natural resources, but in its human resources. We give the world free money, they use that money to buy our services and products, and everyone is richer for it. That's not a perfect solution either, but it's better than selling our jobs and corporations to the highest bidders overseas.

In short, the best way to close the trade gap isn't to import less but to export more.
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Old 18-12-05, 08:52 AM   #6
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I'll skip over how retarded your ideas on economics are and just point out the usual idiots claim that something is theirs. The corporations aren't yours or anybody's but the stockholders. The jobs aren't yours or the governments; they belong to whoever creates them and pays for them. So you and all the other twisted dimwits can just stop crying about "your" jobs and "your" corporations being sold-given-taken by someone else. If it helps your small mind to understand better, think of even dumber people telling you that you can't move out of a community, sell your house, or get yourself a cheaper maid or better paying job. That's what so many idiots and their political representives want to do to others on a much larger scale.
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I'll skip over how retarded your ideas on economics are
Thanks, I guess.

Doesn't it bother you that millions of Americans work for companies that are largely or wholy owned by foreign interests? I'm not a doomsayer, and I'm aware of the gaping holes in my logic in the above posts (and I knew I could count on you to spot them too), but you have to admit that something's been a little off about the US economy over the past couple decades.

Just a few examples:
  • The second largest auto maker in the world and and in the United States is Toyota, soon to be the largest
  • About two thirds of our oil is imported
  • The American software industry's core labor pool is now in India
  • Our biggest export is intellectual property, mostly in the form of entertainment
  • The number of American families in debt is at an all time high, as are insurance rates and taxes (remember, the last time Americans were in this type of situation they started a civil war, and prior to that, a revolution)
  • American wars have historcally boosted the economy, and yet the last two have not
Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is still the nation where jobs belong to people and not the other way around. Think about it, do you ask people 'What's your job?' or do you ask 'What's your employer's job for you'? I won't argue with a corporation's right to invest in cost effective labor, but by the same token you can't argue with a self-governing nation's right to invest in itself by making laws that prevent job-outsourcing. These multinational corporations you hold in such noble regard want to erase national borders, and indeed erase all individual claims of nationality, in persuit of their own profit margins. The vast majority of American companies don't want what the conglomerates want, but unfortunatly they don't have the capital to resist globalizing their own businesses.
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The corporations aren't yours or anybody's but the stockholders.
Hey dumbshit. Some corporations are privately owned. No stockholders. That makes it 'their' company. Lardass.
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and who owns the debt? China and the Corporations that are now investing heavily in China.

This all ties in with the PNAC's goal of surrounding China and containing them. IMO we will be at war with them in 5-10 years. What a beter way to get rid of the debt than to kill the cretitor, meanwhile eliminating the growing oil consumers. Who will profit? The corporations and the bankers :/ They are good at playing both sides, just like they did in the first two World Wars.

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we can sop using oil and stop shopping at wal mart and avoid this confrontation. but who wants to do that
Last time I will quote myself lol

Lets take a closer look at the link

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In 1978, this writer's book Trilaterals Over Washington revealed the global strategy of the Trilateral Commission and it's co-founders David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski, in particular, provided the intellectual reasoning and political strategy for the "New International Economic Order".
Guess who is gonna be in Obama's administration? Thats riiiiiiiight The Big Z!!

I am not endorsing McCain because he is a monkey too.

TLC does not stand for tender love and care.
TLC = Trilateral Commission.
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