P2P-Zone  

Go Back   P2P-Zone > Political Asylum
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Political Asylum Publicly Debate Politics, War, Media.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 15-09-08, 10:27 AM   #1
Šiego
Alpha Stoner
 
Šiego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: www.naphoria.com
Posts: 5,121
Default ALL The Rethuglicans Have Are Lies

From the New York Post:

Quote:
OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open." Zebari says.

Though Obama claims the US presence is "illegal," he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the "weakened Bush administration," Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a "realistic withdrawal date." They declined.

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama's administration wouldn't be fully operational before February - and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament - which might well need another six months to pass it into law.

(it goes onto another page..)

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008...129150.htm?ic/
This is a reply from to the article:

Quote:
Wow. This lie will get pulled. I knew it would.

This is just old information regurgitated with a new spin to make it sound all ominous. As if he did it in private and that is just a lie!

Obama spoke on the tarmac right after speaking with the Iraqi Prime Minister and had these comments according to Athena Jones of NBC News on June 16, 2008:

Quote:
He said he told Zebari that negotiations for a Status of Forces agreement or strategic framework agreement between the two countries should be done in the open and with Congress's authorization and that it was important that that there be strong bipartisan support for any agreement so that it can be sustained through a future administration. He argued it would make sense to hold off on such negotiations until the next administration.

"My concern is that the Bush administration--in a weakened state politically--ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next administration, whether it was my administration or Sen. McCain's administration," Obama said. "The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement that's currently made."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...6/1146329.aspx
So, he did not try to hide his comments. And further as a Senator suggesting that congress have a role in reviewing the final agreement before we commit our nation to a 25 or 50 year commitment to Iraq is maybe just a little sensible.
Sleezy, lying, good for nothing bastards!


Š
__________________

   There's only one way off so you might as well enjoy the ride..
________________________________________________________

Naphoria - P2P Portal www.naphoria.com/chat

Napsterites mIRC v2 | Napsterites Chat
Šiego is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-08, 11:53 AM   #2
Šiego
Alpha Stoner
 
Šiego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: www.naphoria.com
Posts: 5,121
Default

Romney has a bit of honor and honesty left and calls out McCain:

Quote:
I think Senator McCain was called for what everyone has said is a false accusation. The New York Times, Washington Post, Time Magazine, Bill Bennett everybody is saying what he said is simply wrong, reprehensible. I think it was a huge mistake on his part. He wants to stick with it uh, so he is going to take the shots for it, as long as he is doing that. I think people are going to say, "What is the heart and soul of the Republican Party going forward?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY5Plqs5d98

Good that at least one Republican has a tad of integrity.


Š
__________________

   There's only one way off so you might as well enjoy the ride..
________________________________________________________

Naphoria - P2P Portal www.naphoria.com/chat

Napsterites mIRC v2 | Napsterites Chat
Šiego is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-08, 11:14 PM   #3
daddydirt
even the losers
 
daddydirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,090
Default

nice Romney clip from January.......guess you haven't gotten the memo yet.

ummmm....let me predict your next post.

nothing's changed since then, blahblahblah.......

well okay then.
daddydirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-09-08, 01:13 AM   #4
Šiego
Alpha Stoner
 
Šiego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: www.naphoria.com
Posts: 5,121
Default




Š
__________________

   There's only one way off so you might as well enjoy the ride..
________________________________________________________

Naphoria - P2P Portal www.naphoria.com/chat

Napsterites mIRC v2 | Napsterites Chat
Šiego is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-08, 05:55 PM   #5
Nicobie
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,521
Default

Lies?




Every pol is a waster. Curious if u THINK u can do better.




__________________
May your tote always stay tight and your edge eversharp :wink:
Nicobie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Songs with LA in them floydian slip The Music 29 16-09-05 07:50 AM
Deadly Lies and Fantasies Sinner Political Asylum 7 30-06-04 01:17 AM
Sept. 11 Commission Report Says Iraq Rebuffed Al Qaeda JackSpratts Political Asylum 4 17-06-04 12:31 AM






All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© www.p2p-zone.com - Napsterites - 2000 - 2021