Is the New Gnutella Viable? - P2P-Zone

signwatcher · 25-03-03, 04:09 PM

Does anyone actually think this has a snowballs chance in hell of working?

http://www.gnutella2.com/gnutella2_draft.htm
or
http://www.kiwiuk.net/gnutella2_draft.htm

TankGirl · 25-03-03, 07:26 PM

Gnutella is good at surviving... popularity is another matter...

The protocol looks good to me. The key elements of effective multisourcing are there; tiger tree is a good choice for hashing (allowing early verification of downloaded chunks); the supernode concept has been extended to 'node clusters' which opens up interesting possibilities for network self-organization.

I think Gnutella is evolving nicely. It may well remain a somehat experimental network while the more serious filesharing takes place elsewhere....

- but that's just fine... a free technical playground where both the clients and the protocol itself are subject to variation and 'darwinian competition' is a valuable and useful thing in itself...

- tg

JackSpratts · 25-03-03, 11:00 PM

'darwinian competition' heh

yeah kudos to shareaza for kicking them in the ass and jump starting the stalled protocols.

thanks for the post sw!

- js.

napho · 26-03-03, 03:07 AM

Gnutella is known as a developer's network. Many of the people who want the experience of producing their own p2p program start there thus guaranteeing a steady stream of clients and debate. However if you just want a steady stream of movies and music you'll probably be better off elsewhere.

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25-03-03, 07:26 PM	#2
TankGirl Madame Comrade Join Date: May 2000 Location: Area 25 Posts: 5,587	Gnutella is good at surviving... popularity is another matter... The protocol looks good to me. The key elements of effective multisourcing are there; tiger tree is a good choice for hashing (allowing early verification of downloaded chunks); the supernode concept has been extended to 'node clusters' which opens up interesting possibilities for network self-organization. I think Gnutella is evolving nicely. It may well remain a somehat experimental network while the more serious filesharing takes place elsewhere.... - but that's just fine... a free technical playground where both the clients and the protocol itself are subject to variation and 'darwinian competition' is a valuable and useful thing in itself... - tg

25-03-03, 11:00 PM	#3
JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,017	'darwinian competition' heh yeah kudos to shareaza for kicking them in the ass and jump starting the stalled protocols. thanks for the post sw! - js.

26-03-03, 03:07 AM	#4
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	Gnutella is known as a developer's network. Many of the people who want the experience of producing their own p2p program start there thus guaranteeing a steady stream of clients and debate. However if you just want a steady stream of movies and music you'll probably be better off elsewhere.