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Old 30-05-04, 08:23 PM   #1
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Question What P2P Progs are people using these days?

I will admit, I'm very behind in the P2P world. I've been sticking to my trusty Kazaa Lite K++ v 2.4.3 but I'm feeling slight unrest over the fact that have little to no understanding of it beyond, "it works". I'd really just like an idea of what else is out there and what else is being used.

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Old 30-05-04, 09:01 PM   #2
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I'm still using Winmx. I wish I knew about other progs also... I've been slackin'
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Old 30-05-04, 10:53 PM   #3
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Try Shareaza. It does G1, G2, e-donkey, bit torrent. Global search of all networks. Very low number of fakes because the filtering is so good. Resumes perfectly after ANY crash. Fairly reasonable on system resources. Version 2.0 will be TOTALLY dialed. (coming soon)
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Old 30-05-04, 11:43 PM   #4
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Shareaza huh? Is there some kind of P2P glossary I can get that explains what G1, G2, and bit torrent are? I suppose my main concerns are security issues. My least favorite situation would be getting sued, my second to least favorite situation would be getting screwed with by some hacker bastards.
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Old 31-05-04, 03:00 AM   #5
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you can get shareaza from http://www.shareaza.com/
G1 and G2 mean Gnutella 1 & Gnutella 2 (just different p2p networks).
bit torrent is another way of downloading files (I myself hate it :P )

and you cant get sued for downloading non-copyrighted work
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Old 31-05-04, 06:29 AM   #6
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yuo can find a nicely comprehensive guide to p2p clients at Slyck
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Old 31-05-04, 06:42 AM   #7
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hi and welcome here aymoo

gnutella..has a few clients like bareshre and limewire..ect shareaza seems to be a popular one

fastrack..is the p2p network you use when you log in with kazalite..imesh(theres a brand new lite version about some where)..grokster... are some others that use this one..

ed2k network is another network again...emule recommended for this edonkey2000 has spyware

bit torrent ..some good info here on that -->http://www.slyck.com/bt.php

theres a heap more follow some of the links there^
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Old 31-05-04, 07:08 AM   #8
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Emule and bittorrent
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Old 31-05-04, 08:52 AM   #9
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But mostly IRC, newsgroups & FTP.
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Old 31-05-04, 09:43 AM   #10
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Wow, incredible information at slyck.com, thanks are given. I see that everyone seems to be using a different prog though. Kazaa Lite, Emule, Shareaza, bittorrent... and I'm to understand that many of these connect to the same hand full of networks right? So is there an all-mighty client utilizing all the file-sharing networks or is that still to be developed?
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Old 31-05-04, 11:56 AM   #11
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WinMX, Kazaa and Soulseek....
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Old 31-05-04, 12:34 PM   #12
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Direct Connect, private hubs, although one of the hubs I frequented was busted.
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Old 31-05-04, 01:04 PM   #13
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Direct Connect, private hubs, although one of the hubs I frequented was busted.
that's unfortunately interesting - can you give us some details on the nature of the hub and the manner in which it was busted?
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Old 31-05-04, 04:20 PM   #14
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It was a big hub (minimum 50Gb share), I think it was run by a Swedish guy, and from what I hear may have been a porn bust on the server's puter, although there was no porn allowed. Mostly music, audio books.... Alot of Europeans, especially Spanish, who were just savage downloaders. You could leave for an hour, come back and find someone had queued your entire shared folder and it was almost impossible to get rid of them unless you started removing folders. Bums I tell ya.

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Old 31-05-04, 05:21 PM   #15
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if people only knew the sacrifices we make advancing the cause of free expression.

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Shareaza huh? Is there some kind of P2P glossary I can get that explains what G1, G2, and bit torrent are? I suppose my main concerns are security issues. My least favorite situation would be getting sued, my second to least favorite situation would be getting screwed with by some hacker bastards.
Well your probably asking a noob here but here goes:

1. Get a powerful firewall and learn how to set it up for maximum protection. I use Sygate myself. It gets pretty darn good reviews from a lot of people way smarter about these things than me. I would guess Norton, Tiny and Outpost are good too.

2. There are two other programs that go together: Protowall and The Blocklist Manager. They will allow you to block known or suspected bad guys and other threats. They, as far as I understand it will totally block any attempt to scan your machine for anything. Unless the government considers you a threat to national security they will do the job well.


3. Hang around here. Man I'm telling you this place is on the cutting edge of the p2p world and there are some experts here that have been at it before I even owned a computer.

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Old 27-07-04, 08:25 PM   #17
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Sorry man. Hate to bust your security bubble. All the firewalls in the world won't save you when they bust ya for uploading.
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Old 28-07-04, 03:50 AM   #18
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Direct Connect, private hubs, although one of the hubs I frequented was busted.
If it was a private hub, then they weren't too careful who they let in.
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Old 28-07-04, 10:28 AM   #19
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and you cant get sued for downloading non-copyrighted work
Sorry to burst your bubble. Got to dispel this myth.

Everything has a copyright on it. The moment somebody has created something of an intellectual nature (be it music or poetry or an article or a photograph) it is copyrighted. Patents fall under a different kind of protection.

The mere fact that you found it on the net and you can see it, hear it, read it, or that there's nothing physically preventing you from otherwise copying it, does not mean it is not protected by copyright.


That being said, the only times you'll have some explaining to do is if you were to pass that on as your own or propagate it further without the author's permission, whether or not you profit financially from it.

P2P services are particularly in the spotlight as vehicles for that last bit of trespassing: propagation without the author's explicit permission.
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Old 28-07-04, 06:44 PM   #20
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Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but not all works are under copyright.

Specifically, works released into Public Domain, and works on which copyright has expired (like all the stuff Disney is ripping off).

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/okbooks.html
http://www.pdinfo.com/copyrt.htm

While works are protected under copyright laws automatically, they receive stronger protection if there is a copyright notice, and even better if they are registered with the US Copyright Office.

http://www.copyright.gov/register/
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