An Alternative To Peer Guardian - P2P-Zone

napho · 26-01-04, 05:24 PM

P2P Hazard. It's in Spanish. Much lower resource use.

http://www.adkiller.net/p2p

wwasicek · 28-01-04, 01:00 PM

You can still get busted with PG or any other blocklist. It is still a good idea to use them.

I use the PG block list with zonealarm and anonx proxy service. I have not been bothered by big brother or any other watchdog groups in months.

multi · 29-01-04, 12:22 PM

MPAA seeks P2P Enforcer for antipiracy ops
By John Lettice
Posted: 29/01/2004 at 12:52 GMT

Enforcer wanted! The Motion Picture Association of America is seeking
California-based Internet Enforcement Manager, a "mid to senior" level post at a salary of $60-75,000. The manager's responsibilities will include "overseeing all outside vendor development & usage... examining new piracy methods & protocols, overseeing Internet anti-piracy operations worldwide... [and] evidence-gathering efforts in support of litigation or criminal enforcement."

So the successful candidate will be responsible for finding the people to bust, for the introduction of new methods to find the people to bust, and for keeping pace in the file-sharing arms race.

The MPA says the job requires "advanced understanding of Internet protocols & networking systems," and rams this home by listing them: "including TCP/IP, DNS, WHOIS, IRC, FTP, HTTP, P2P & NNTP." More than is absolutely necessary for your average network admin, certainly. And in addition, a "working knowledge of DMCA and copyright law [is] preferred."
from

napho · 29-01-04, 02:03 PM

This looks like it's state of the art although I don't know how effective it can truly be.

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=674

[RR]Trilobyte · 29-01-04, 04:10 PM

I just got back online after trying to install the driver into my network control panel. I'm afraid that I'm not an elite geek to give more details on what actually the problem was but luckily an uninstall of the driver and a reboot corrected the problem.
More than likely this was another PEBKAC (which I encounter too frequently) and obviously others have had success installing it.
Just thought that I would post my experience with Protowall (especially since Dawn threatened me if I didn't).
I have the peergaurdian IP database loaded into ZoneAlarm Pro so I'll just stick with that for now. Good luck to others and hope you avoid the pitfall I ran into.

napho · 29-01-04, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [RR]Trilobyte
I just got back online after trying to install the driver into my network control panel. I'm afraid that I'm not an elite geek to give more details on what actually the problem was but luckily an uninstall of the driver and a reboot corrected the problem.
More than likely this was another PEBKAC (which I encounter too frequently) and obviously others have had success installing it.
Just thought that I would post my experience with Protowall (especially since Dawn threatened me if I didn't).
I have the peergaurdian IP database loaded into ZoneAlarm Pro so I'll just stick with that for now. Good luck to others and hope you avoid the pitfall I ran into.

I feel a little guilty in that I haven't installed that yet. That screenshot came from their site. It was certainly worth a try trilo: you download alot.
ps Dawn suckered you into posting...she gets a finder's fee for each new member she lures here and even more for each of their posts up to 100.

Dawn · 29-01-04, 04:24 PM

[RR]Trilobyte · 29-01-04, 05:04 PM

I agree with the fact that I download alot but I like to think that I share alot too. 1.15 TB at present. That is what I'm more concerned with.
Bluetack's site is a site that I trust and use. I would have never figured out how to get the PGIP database into Zone Alarm without it.
I appreciate you (napho) posting the link to it. Just because I had trouble doesn't mean that the proggie doesn't work.
If I could just wean myself off of Torrents I probably could get by without any IP blockers. Maybe there is therapy for that like gambling or alchohol. Have to check into that.........

Dawn, that smilie is exacty how I envision you.

napho · 29-01-04, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [RR]Trilobyte
I agree with the fact that I download alot but I like to think that I share alot too. 1.15 TB at present. That is what I'm more concerned with.
Bluetack's site is a site that I trust and use. I would have never figured out how to get the PGIP database into Zone Alarm without it.
I appreciate you (napho) posting the link to it. Just because I had trouble doesn't mean that the proggie doesn't work.
If I could just wean myself off of Torrents I probably could get by without any IP blockers. Maybe there is therapy for that like gambling or alchohol. Have to check into that.........

Dawn, that smilie is exacty how I envision you.

I realize you upload ALOT!

Download was just the first word that popped into my so called mind.

Dawn · 29-01-04, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [RR]Trilobyte

Dawn, that smilie is exacty how I envision you.

Leonard Cohen....

multi · 01-02-04, 06:57 AM

i installed this protowall and it looks very good..
so far
uses nearly 8M of memory ..
wich dont seem to too bad..
you need to add it as a service to your dialup/local connection properties

napho · 01-02-04, 03:31 PM

After installing the protowall driver I couldn't connect to anything. With the Kerio firewall turned off I could connect again. After rebooting all is well. I guess the firewall can't work properly with the driver until you boot. At least with some firewalls anyway.

[RR]Trilobyte · 02-02-04, 07:21 AM

Thanks for the follow up in this thread. I was hosting a DC hub at the time and really wanted to get my internet back as fast as I could. I went with the uninstall and then reboot as opposed to leaving the driver in place and rebooting. (I guess I got into a panic when I lost the connection) I will give protowall another go today and if I run into the same problem, I will reboot and hopefully have the same outcome as you did. Thanks again.

wwasicek · 05-02-04, 02:41 PM

PG's blocked is getting to big and is killing my processor power. Even running it on my Linux Shorewall box 3Ghz that I use as a gateway. When I pump 5Mb/s or more through the box my load average goes up to 1.2 or higher!!!!!

Is anyone else using a blocklist other than PG?
How well does it work?
Where do you Get?

--Thanks

Squid · 06-02-04, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by multi
i installed this protowall and it looks very good..
so far
uses nearly 8M of memory ..
wich dont seem to too bad..
you need to add it as a service to your dialup/local connection properties

that is one of the ugliest themes i have ever seen, are you colorblind?

AgentJones · 07-02-04, 07:27 AM

well protowall for now beats any p2p protecting application-trust me i use and test a lot of such!

why to use protowall

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=761

as only it block about every internet protocol!(tcp/udp/icmp/igmp and abut 100 others!)

blocks packets at drivers level

and it has no known bugs it is final version now!

plaese see our forum on p2p securities (anyone can be member of many foums

...)

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums

link to current version of protowall

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=722

http://bluetack.co.uk/pw/Protowall_installer.exe
http://bluetack.co.uk/pwhelp

moreover
if you like other ways of blocking we got other application for you

The Blocklist Manager 2.41c

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...wtopic=751&hl=

it can convert out (frequently updated blacklists) to almost all used formats

http://bluetack.co.uk/download/TheBl...nager2.41c.exe
http://www.bluetack.co.uk/blmhelp/
http://bluetack.co.uk/download/blm.pdf

Agent Jones

multi · 10-02-04, 02:27 AM

protowall seems good is it best to update the guardingp2p.file every week /month?

theknife · 14-04-04, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by multi
protowall seems good is it best to update the guardingp2p.file every week /month?

hey Multi...if you're still running this program (or if anyone else is)...

i'd like to check it out, but i was wondering - i use Peer Guardian and occasionally have to switch it off to access certain sites (like Adobe or ABC News, for example). i notice Protowall is a bit more involved with the driver installation, so i'm wondering: how easy is it to turn it on and off, as needed?

Ice · 17-04-04, 01:04 AM

Note to Napho:

Ice has read this thread.

multi · 17-04-04, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theknife
hey Multi...if you're still running this program (or if anyone else is)...

i'd like to check it out, but i was wondering - i use Peer Guardian and occasionally have to switch it off to access certain sites (like Adobe or ABC News, for example). i notice Protowall is a bit more involved with the driver installation, so i'm wondering: how easy is it to turn it on and off, as needed?

sorry tk ..i missed your last post here..
yeah its easy as clicking the systray icon

when its blocking a bad packet it pops up a warning like this one i get everytime i go to zeropaid...tsk tsk

26-01-04, 05:24 PM	#1
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	An Alternative To Peer Guardian P2P Hazard. It's in Spanish. Much lower resource use. http://www.adkiller.net/p2p Attached Images

29-01-04, 12:22 PM	#3
multi Thanks for being with arse Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The other side of the world Posts: 10,343	MPAA seeks P2P Enforcer for antipiracy ops MPAA seeks P2P Enforcer for antipiracy ops By John Lettice Posted: 29/01/2004 at 12:52 GMT Enforcer wanted! The Motion Picture Association of America is seeking California-based Internet Enforcement Manager, a "mid to senior" level post at a salary of $60-75,000. The manager's responsibilities will include "overseeing all outside vendor development & usage... examining new piracy methods & protocols, overseeing Internet anti-piracy operations worldwide... [and] evidence-gathering efforts in support of litigation or criminal enforcement." So the successful candidate will be responsible for finding the people to bust, for the introduction of new methods to find the people to bust, and for keeping pace in the file-sharing arms race. The MPA says the job requires "advanced understanding of Internet protocols & networking systems," and rams this home by listing them: "including TCP/IP, DNS, WHOIS, IRC, FTP, HTTP, P2P & NNTP." More than is absolutely necessary for your average network admin, certainly. And in addition, a "working knowledge of DMCA and copyright law [is] preferred." from __________________ i beat the internet - the end boss is hard Secret Temple of It

29-01-04, 04:10 PM	#5
[RR]Trilobyte Everybody's Fool Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20	Protowall I just got back online after trying to install the driver into my network control panel. I'm afraid that I'm not an elite geek to give more details on what actually the problem was but luckily an uninstall of the driver and a reboot corrected the problem. More than likely this was another PEBKAC (which I encounter too frequently) and obviously others have had success installing it. Just thought that I would post my experience with Protowall (especially since Dawn threatened me if I didn't). I have the peergaurdian IP database loaded into ZoneAlarm Pro so I'll just stick with that for now. Good luck to others and hope you avoid the pitfall I ran into. __________________ ........: Two roads diverged in a yellow wood and I -- I ....tripped over a stump!

29-01-04, 04:24 PM	#7
Dawn R.I.P napho 1-31-16 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Venus Posts: 16,723	__________________ I love you napho and I will weep forever..........

29-01-04, 05:04 PM	#8
[RR]Trilobyte Everybody's Fool Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20	Download alot I agree with the fact that I download alot but I like to think that I share alot too. 1.15 TB at present. That is what I'm more concerned with. Bluetack's site is a site that I trust and use. I would have never figured out how to get the PGIP database into Zone Alarm without it. I appreciate you (napho) posting the link to it. Just because I had trouble doesn't mean that the proggie doesn't work. If I could just wean myself off of Torrents I probably could get by without any IP blockers. Maybe there is therapy for that like gambling or alchohol. Have to check into that......... Dawn, that smilie is exacty how I envision you. __________________ ........: Two roads diverged in a yellow wood and I -- I ....tripped over a stump!

28-01-04, 01:00 PM	#2
wwasicek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 27	You can still get busted with PG or any other blocklist. It is still a good idea to use them. I use the PG block list with zonealarm and anonx proxy service. I have not been bothered by big brother or any other watchdog groups in months.

29-01-04, 02:03 PM	#4
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	This looks like it's state of the art although I don't know how effective it can truly be. http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=674

01-02-04, 06:57 AM	#11
multi Thanks for being with arse Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The other side of the world Posts: 10,343	i installed this protowall and it looks very good.. so far uses nearly 8M of memory .. wich dont seem to too bad.. you need to add it as a service to your dialup/local connection properties Attached Images __________________ i beat the internet - the end boss is hard Secret Temple of It

01-02-04, 03:31 PM	#12
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	After installing the protowall driver I couldn't connect to anything. With the Kerio firewall turned off I could connect again. After rebooting all is well. I guess the firewall can't work properly with the driver until you boot. At least with some firewalls anyway.

02-02-04, 07:21 AM	#13
[RR]Trilobyte Everybody's Fool Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20	Install and Reboot Thanks for the follow up in this thread. I was hosting a DC hub at the time and really wanted to get my internet back as fast as I could. I went with the uninstall and then reboot as opposed to leaving the driver in place and rebooting. (I guess I got into a panic when I lost the connection) I will give protowall another go today and if I run into the same problem, I will reboot and hopefully have the same outcome as you did. Thanks again. __________________ ........: Two roads diverged in a yellow wood and I -- I ....tripped over a stump!

05-02-04, 02:41 PM	#14
wwasicek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 27	PG's blocked is getting to big and is killing my processor power. Even running it on my Linux Shorewall box 3Ghz that I use as a gateway. When I pump 5Mb/s or more through the box my load average goes up to 1.2 or higher!!!!! Is anyone else using a blocklist other than PG? How well does it work? Where do you Get? --Thanks

07-02-04, 07:27 AM	#16
AgentJones Apprentice Napsterite Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5	well protowall for now beats any p2p protecting application-trust me i use and test a lot of such! why to use protowall http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=761 as only it block about every internet protocol!(tcp/udp/icmp/igmp and abut 100 others!) blocks packets at drivers level and it has no known bugs it is final version now! plaese see our forum on p2p securities (anyone can be member of many foums ...) http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums link to current version of protowall http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=722 http://bluetack.co.uk/pw/Protowall_installer.exe http://bluetack.co.uk/pwhelp moreover if you like other ways of blocking we got other application for you The Blocklist Manager 2.41c http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...wtopic=751&hl= it can convert out (frequently updated blacklists) to almost all used formats http://bluetack.co.uk/download/TheBl...nager2.41c.exe http://www.bluetack.co.uk/blmhelp/ http://bluetack.co.uk/download/blm.pdf Agent Jones Last edited by AgentJones : 08-02-04 at 09:38 AM.

10-02-04, 02:27 AM	#17
multi Thanks for being with arse Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The other side of the world Posts: 10,343	protowall seems good is it best to update the guardingp2p.file every week /month? __________________ i beat the internet - the end boss is hard Secret Temple of It

17-04-04, 01:04 AM	#19
Ice Arggggghhhhhh!!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 2,891	Note to Napho: Ice has read this thread.

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