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Old 14-01-04, 08:50 AM   #1
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here is the link, if you'd rather not click it, here is the entire report too..

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ues/index.html


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(CNN) -- Two-thirds of Americans think President Bush has the right personal qualities for the presidency, yet nearly half or more think the Democratic Party would do a better job on major domestic issues, according to a new poll.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Tuesday interviewed 1,003 adult Americans last weekend on Bush and national issues ranging from the environment to security.

The poll indicated that Bush's favorable standing with most Americans on his personal qualities is a main reason for his job approval rating of 59 percent in the most recent CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll and similar high marks in other polls.

The poll also showed that 55 percent of those interviewed agree with Bush on the issues that matter to them.

"With previous polls showing that voters are paying more attention to personal qualities than issues right now, it looks as if Bush's strength is who he is, more than what he stands for," CNN pollster Keating Holland said.

Split on issues
The poll showed that though most Americans give the edge to the Democratic Party on domestic issues, the Republican Party retains an advantage on security issues and world affairs, and Bush gets credit for that.

At least 50 percent or more of those interviewed said the Democratic Party would do a better job on such issues as the environment, health care and education.

Nearly 50 percent preferred the Democrats on issues such as the budget deficit, the economy and taxes.

But on issues such as terrorism, the Iraq war, world affairs and gun policy, those interviewed gave the nod to the Republicans.

On other questions, less than half of those interviewed said they thought a terrorist attack is likely in the United States in the next few weeks.

But that is not a personal concern for many Americans -- only about one in nine of those interviewed said they thought terrorism was likely in their community.

Three-quarters said they think Bush has addressed the fundamental security risks the country faces.

The poll had a margin of error of plus-or-minus 3 percentage points.

Ive only got one thing to say about this....

How can you only survey 1003 people out of how many MILLION american people and expect the poll to be anywhere close to being accurate?
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Old 14-01-04, 09:30 AM   #2
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Ive only got one thing to say about this....

How can you only survey 1003 people out of how many MILLION american people and expect the poll to be anywhere close to being accurate?
but if it was a poll of 1003 saying Bush was a poopy head it would be the gospel, right?
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Old 14-01-04, 09:42 AM   #3
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but if it was a poll of 1003 saying Bush was a poopy head it would be the gospel, right?
no...i just think that more people should be polled if they are going todo a report on CNN about it no matter the result of the poll.
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Old 14-01-04, 09:51 AM   #4
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no...i just think that more people should be polled if they are going todo a report on CNN about it no matter the result of the poll.
i think you need to learn the definition of a poll : A survey of the public or of a sample of public opinion to acquire information.

since i doubt CNN could get the entire public to vote in this poll, a sample of the publics opinion is taken.
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Old 14-01-04, 09:58 AM   #5
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i think you need to learn the definition of a poll : A survey of the public or of a sample of public opinion to acquire information.

since i doubt CNN could get the entire public to vote in this poll, a sample of the publics opinion is taken.
I know what a poll is, im just saying that this one isnt accurate. 1000 is such a small number of people to be reporting what "public opinion" is...go poll 500,000 people and see what the resuly of that poll is...
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I know what a poll is, im just saying that this one isnt accurate. 1000 is such a small number of people to be reporting what "public opinion" is...go poll 500,000 people and see what the resuly of that poll is...
a poll would never be accurate unless it polled 100% of the population.

don't get mad at the way the poll was conducted just because it provided a view you disagree with, that's pretty childish.
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Old 14-01-04, 10:49 AM   #7
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a poll would never be accurate unless it polled 100% of the population.

don't get mad at the way the poll was conducted just because it provided a view you disagree with, that's pretty childish.
im not mad about the view it provides...im mad about the accuracy of it...im sayin that a 500,000 person poll would be a hell of a lot more accurate than a 1000 person poll...and it would represent the publics opinion a lot better as well.
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im not mad about the view it provides...im mad about the accuracy of it...im sayin that a 500,000 person poll would be a hell of a lot more accurate than a 1000 person poll...and it would represent the publics opinion a lot better as well.
i just find it funny that of all the polls that present inaccurate data everyday you single this one out to show outrage over.

i'm still of the belief that if these poll numbers were reversed you'd be trumpeting this out as proof of Bush's imminent defeat and then post a pic of him looking like a monkey.
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Old 14-01-04, 11:41 AM   #9
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At least 50 percent or more of those interviewed said the Democratic Party would do a better job on such issues as the environment, health care and education.

Nearly 50 percent preferred the Democrats on issues such as the budget deficit, the economy and taxes.

But on issues such as terrorism, the Iraq war, world affairs and gun policy, those interviewed gave the nod to the Republicans.
Moral: If you're concerned about issues such as reality; the quality of life, and improving things, you're likely to lean toward the general democratic point of view, while if you live in a paranoid world in constant fear for your safety from the most unlikely sources and have a tendency to crouch in the darkness shooting at anything that moves, you're probably a republican. (Other symptoms may include excessively frequent hand washing and an inability to look people directly in the eye.)

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Three-quarters said they think Bush has addressed the fundamental security risks the country faces.
Yeah he's addressed them alright, in fact he never stops telling us how terrified we ought to be, but it's unrealistic to assume he's done fuck-all about it. That would, after all, require cognizance and at least some primitive ability to reason.

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And on polls, even small samples can be good for defining statistical probabilities, but it's a mistake to equate statistical probabilities with actualities: while the odds of lightning striking the same spot twice may be astronomical, you'd be a fool to stay in the same tree that just got hit.
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Old 14-01-04, 11:51 AM   #10
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^^ yeah, stupid national security, who needs it? it's not like were at war or anything ^^
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...but, but, but.... I thought the war was supposed to make us feel SAFER!

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...but, but, but.... I thought the war was supposed to make us feel SAFER!

you're talking like the war is over but it isn't, it's not even close.
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Old 14-01-04, 12:24 PM   #13
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You're right there, and at 10B a month we're looking at around 500B at the end of 4 more years of Bonzo's crusade... er, I mean presidency.

And wait a minute, it's not even close to being over? My, isn't that a striking modification of the prewar cheer "It'll be a cheap, easy and quick war!"


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You're right there, and at 10B a month we're looking at around 500B at the end of 4 more years of Bonzo's crusade... er, I mean presidency.

And wait a minute, it's not even close to being over? My, isn't that a striking modification of the prewar cheer "It'll be a cheap, easy and quick war!"


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i was refering to the war on terror and thought you were too, i guess not, please continue your quasi-intellectual self masterbation.
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Old 14-01-04, 05:14 PM   #15
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Amnesty for illegal aliens makes me feel real safe, lets just open our borders eh?


In a poll of 1 person, 100% thinks George Bush is thought to be off of his meds. +/- 4%
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Old 14-01-04, 05:47 PM   #16
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A sample size of 1000 is fine to statistically extrapolate to a country the size of US. You just have to pick your sample properly. You can show anything with a poll by tweaking your qualification criteria. If people were picked randomly, polls would be even more worthless than they are now.

As for security issues.... what exactly are those 'fundamental security risks', and how exactly has the administration addressed them?

The illegal aliens... well, if you're not gonna get rid of them, might as well make them legal and collect some taxes off them. It's not like they're leaving on their own.
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Old 14-01-04, 07:19 PM   #17
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Moral: If you're concerned about issues such as reality; the quality of life, and improving things, you're likely to lean toward the general democratic point of view, while if you live in a paranoid world in constant fear for your safety from the most unlikely sources and have a tendency to crouch in the darkness shooting at anything that moves, you're probably a republican.
don't forget the terror attacks on sept. 11 were the ones that really screwed things up for the americans, including the people's quality of life in a number of different ways. talk about the democrats having a grasp on "reality". muhaha..

when bin ladin's thugs nearly sank the USS cole (let alone try to bring down the wtc 7 years earlier), wasn't that enough of an indication for the democrats that these islamic pigs mean business? and what did the "realistic" democrats do in retaliation for the USS cole? launch a couple of cruise missiles hundreds of miles from the sea to destroy al-kaida training camps that killed 20 al-kaida fighters at the most. the thing is as soon as those 20 were killed the next day 100 more recruits joined.

and what about all the warnings and information that the clinton administration had since the mid-90's from terrorists captured in the philippines about islamic fundamentalists planning to hijack american planes and crash them into strategic american targets in the united states. now, say we were before the sept. 11 terror acts today, what first comes to mind when one thinks about strategic american targets? let's see.. obviously there's the white house, capitol hill, the world trade towers (which were already bombed before), the statue of liberty, the pentagon, CIA headquarters, major airports, just to name a few of the possible targets.

instead of acting on these threats and making sure that these places are secured at all times from land, air, and sea, as well as improving the security of airlines as they do nowadays, the democrats did virtually nothing. and now, after the american people suffered such a tragedy, directly caused by the democrats' flawed foreign policy and liberal ideology that hindered the ability of the most powerful nation in the world to recognize threats to national security, they are blaming bush and the republicans for much of america's misfortunes.
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Old 14-01-04, 07:58 PM   #18
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All this liberal Democratic party bashing has gone on too long.

Somebody should pass a law.......

and raise taxes to hire perps (corrupt types) to enforce it.

Bush screwed up with the patriot act, but that is nothing compared to what libertys have been stolen by the 'liberals'.

It's obvious that human behavior can't be legislated.

Government authority In the US today is about the same as Germany put up with when Hitler ran the show. Don't ever forget, that shithead almost won.
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Old 14-01-04, 08:11 PM   #19
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smuck.

All the world doesn't revolve around Israel's needs.

If it was up to me, I'd even the playing field and give 'dem Pals as much US money as Israel sucks off our economy.

I wonder how many hundreds of billions of $ the US has wasted on Israel. If it wasn't for that, I think America would be much more respected by other nations.


Let's not get into the atom bombs that Israel has and won't admit to ... 'specially since they stole the technology from the US.

No wonder America is hated.

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Old 14-01-04, 08:44 PM   #20
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Government authority In the US today is about the same as Germany put up with when Hitler ran the show. Don't ever forget, that shithead almost won.

Nice dude Alltho i agree with you to some extend i would not go as far as comparing nazi germany to the U.S.


@others .... if you think that all those so called security related laws are going to help you one bit keep on dreaming. All it does is give you peeps a false sense of security. hardly worth to give up your personal freedom for.


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Amnesty for illegal aliens makes me feel real safe, lets just open our borders eh?


In a poll of 1 person, 100% thinks George Bush is thought to be off of his meds. +/- 4%
Now now floyd that almost sounds like xenofobia
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