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Old 29-06-03, 11:25 AM   #1
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Default Post Your Count - What effect is the RIAA having on sharing?

Thought we could start a little tab here that anyone can do and the more the better.

A lot of people are wondering how the P2P community will react to the RIAA's reported use of lawsuits against file sharers. Since there will undoubtedly be a lot of disinformation about its effects coming from various factions, I thought it would be helpful to keep our own running count of the files shared on Fasttrack. From now on whenever I log onto the Network I'll post the Share amounts I see along with the client I'm using. Since I don’t get on FT all that much, the more people that post here the more accurate the numbers will be.

If you log onto the Network just drop in and put up the numbers. The amount of files shared varies a lot anyway, but over time we should be able to tell if a trend is developing.

This way we can watch and see what effect - if any – these RIAA show suits are having on Fasttrack, the world’s largest file sharing network.

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Old 29-06-03, 11:42 AM   #2
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excellent thread - i was thinking about this when i posted here

....these were the numbers 2 days ago, on 6/27: 3,908,026 users sharing 838, 072,925 files

this is from KazaaLite, but all FastTrack clients should reflect the same pool of users, no?
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Old 30-06-03, 01:35 AM   #3
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as a reference point you can use my figures for fasttrack from 4.29.03 to 5.31.03 (i stopped keeping track coz the numbers weren't changing that much but now sure is a good time to start back up)- all times are eastern standard time (eastern u.s.) the times that the figures are taken really matter- notice some of the lesser quality news articles that claimed there was a drop immediately following the riaa news but in fact there is always a substantial drop in users and files shared after late evening e.s.t. (as i'm typing this it's 3:27am where i am and there are 3.2 million) the peak times i was noticing towards the end were between 1-3 pm est...saturdays and sundays always had more users. one thing you'll notice is that i tended to go with the higher volume times (afternoon) so my figures would be good in the right context (the lowest points as far as user numbers during this point were in the low to mid 3 million range)...

4.29.03 4.1 million 7:30 pm est, 4.2 @7:46pm
4.30.03 4.1 12:10pm
5.1.03 4.3 12:30pm, 4.5 mill. @4:35pm
5.2.03 4.1 12:00pm
5.4.03 4.95 4:10pm, 4.72 mill. @4:15pm
5.5.03 4.25 11:55am, 4.42 mill.@7:42pm
5.6.03 4.35 5:10pm
5.9.03 4.26 5:10pm
5.10.03 4.41 2:00pm
5.11.03 4.17 12:30pm
5.12.03 4.24 12:20pm
5.14.03 4.31 1:20pm
5.17.03 4.19 12:30pm, 4.34 mill @ 1:05pm
5.19.03 4.10 12:35pm, 4.51 mill @ 3:10pm
5.22.03 4.21 12:20pm
5.23.03 4.10 12noon, 4.42 mill. @4:20pm
5.24.03 4.09 12:40pm, 4.43 mill. @3:10pm
5.25.03 4.47 1:30pm, 4.72 mill. @3:50pm
5.26.03 4.39 12:53pm, 4.71 mill @3:40pm
5.27.03 4.29 2pm, 4.49 mill @4:30pm
5.29.03 4.23 2:40pm
5.30.03 4.27 3:20pm
5.31.03 4.3 3pm (882 million shared files)

total shared files at 3:50pm 5.25.03 was 993 million...highest so far (as of 5.31.03)


source:http://www.fasttrackmovies.com/forum...ms=kazaa,users (requires you to register for the fasttrackcentral forum)
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Old 30-06-03, 06:27 AM   #4
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June 29, 2003 - 18:00 EST
Network Users
FastTrack 3,887,832
iMesh 1,295,944
eDonkey 796,398
Overnet 573,440
MP2P 202,654
Gnutella 109,685
DirectConnect 104,809
FileNavigator 34,659
Ares 10,434
Filetopia 2,531




theres always these figures at http://www.slyck.com
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Old 30-06-03, 07:41 AM   #5
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that's great guys!

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Old 30-06-03, 07:41 AM   #6
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Users: 3721015

Files: 765356K

Gigs: 5960960.0

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Old 01-07-03, 11:31 AM   #7
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Users: 4314994

Files: 885037k

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Old 01-07-03, 11:47 AM   #8
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P2P Networks
July 1, 2003 - 8:00 EST
Network Users
FastTrack 3,906,970
iMesh 1,300,910
eDonkey 875,921
Overnet 573,440
MP2P 182,914
DirectConnect 138,670
Gnutella 90,153
FileNavigator 35,096
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Old 01-07-03, 02:29 PM   #9
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What The? Ya know

In the p2p grand scheme of things, (R ya paying attention RIAA/MPAA f-tards and asshats?), 4,000,000/5,000,000 people (WORLDWIDE) dling and uling files doesn't seem like a devastatingly mindnumbing number to me..........

Guess my idea of crisis proportions and <their> idea of crisis proportions are 2 totally different points of view.............





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Old 02-07-03, 03:12 PM   #10
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fasttrack as of 2:10 pm est (july 2, 2003)

4,291,739 users
895,631,896 files
6.5 million gigs

(pretty high for a weekday)
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Old 03-07-03, 12:14 AM   #11
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as a contrast to the highest activity here's 2:15 am est july3 2003

fasttrack network
3,235,635 users
723,768,357 files
5.5 gigs
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Old 03-07-03, 01:07 AM   #12
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They will catch and punish a few, but the P2P networks will just adapt to enhance anonymity.

With clients like waste bearing over 1500 bit encryption that is unique for each user, and a trusted client private network ability, it's going to be a lot tougher to find out what is being traded between users.

They will spend a lot of money trying to catch people and devise schemes to thwart trading, all for naught. This will tend to make them want to keep prices high, to defray the costs of P2P countermeasures. This works against them in a big way.

The only thing they can do that will be effective is to offer a high quality product at a reasonable price. Then, folks will not mind (as much) paying the price for the retail product.
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3,235,635 users
723,768,357 files
5.5 gigs
Wow, does that mean all those files have an average of a .000128 bitrate?
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excellent thread - i was thinking about this when i posted here

....these were the numbers 2 days ago, on 6/27: 3,908,026 users sharing 838, 072,925 files

this is from KazaaLite, but all FastTrack clients should reflect the same pool of users, no?
Imesh is on the FastTrack system but only use about a 1/4 of it as Imesh does not use super nodes
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Wow, does that mean all those files have an average of a .000128 bitrate?
you got me- it's 5.5 million lol


more figures:
(all eastern standard time)


7.3.03 4.26 1:40pm 892.8 million
7.4.03 4.08 3:00pm 865 m files/ 6.3 m gigs
7.7.03 4.15 1:20pm 861 m files/ 6.3 m gigs and 4.43 4:40pm 922 m / 6.6 m
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Old 08-07-03, 11:56 AM   #16
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clean grokster -

Users: 4284698

Files: 878409k

Gigs: 6468608.0

since first post - users up, files up, total bytes up.

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Old 08-07-03, 12:24 PM   #17
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well from my figures for 7.2.03 to today (minus the weekend which has always had a much higher number) i don't see much of a change (also when put up against the figures from may) it's all a matter of what time the figures are taken (at 11 a.m. today est there were 3.7 million users)

7.2.03 4.29 2:10pm est 895.6 million shared files
7.3.03 4.26 1:40pm 892.8 million
7.4.03 4.08 3:00pm 865 m files/ 6.3 m gigs
7.7.03 4.15 1:20pm 861 m files/ 6.3 m gigs
7.7.03 4.43 4:40pm 922 m / 6.6 m
7.8.03 4.22 1:25pm 866 m files/ 6.4 m gigs
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it's all a matter of what time the figures are taken
and that's my point d3. while it's early in the legal game it's not too early for the riaa propaganda machines to crank up stories purporting to show the lawsuits having a negative effect on sharing (several such stories have appeared already). the casual reader may stumble across such an article and take it at face value. but like file sharing and sales figures, no easy correlations can be made - empirically - between the subpoenas and the amount files shared. in this case, they can't even say the peer-to-peer figures are down, let alone credit any threats of legal action on their part. it can be said with assurance however that the riaa's actions are damaging whatever reputation the record industry has left.

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Old 08-07-03, 06:00 PM   #19
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definitely js- just thought i saw something about figures being up overall from your last post- just balancing that with my numbers. the reason why i started keeping track at the end of april was when they started sending their feeble ims and the month of may was the best month fasttrack has ever had in terms of peak number of users...
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