Iran's War Of Egos...

[Repo]

It is surprising how again and again people's egos get in the way of good judgment. Saddam refused to back down pretending he had weapons of mass destruction. For his ego the people of Iraq are paying dearly, their country now in chaos...

George W. Bush refused to back down against Saddam and refused to listen to the UN inspectors that they couldn't find Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. For his ego the people of the United States are paying dearly, stuck in a war with no good end in sight. Thousand of American casualties, costing billions of dollars sending the country into deficit with little money to rebuild the Katrina devastated Gulf Coast and with Osama bin Laden still operating. On top of all that there is the matter of Iran that like it or not the U.S. will have to deal with militarily...

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad refuses to back down against the United States, the European Union and most of the United Nations. For his ego the people of Iran will pay dearly. President Ahmadinejad wants to build a nuclear weapon. He claims it is Iran's right to have nuclear weapons. He also has said he wants to wipe Israel off of the map. Once you start talking about wiping another country off the map, in the eyes of the world you lose that right to have nuclear capabilities. Sorry Mr. Ahmadinejad it isn't going to happen. The reason it isn't going to happen is once you have nuclear weapons, most people believe Iran would use them on Israel. Doing so would set off a chain reaction that would not only kill millions in Israel and Iran but several countries in the Middle East. That would also damage the flow of oil to countries worldwide including China; that would hurt China's growing economy. China will not let Mr. Ahmadinejad's ego hurt their economy. Iran has missiles that can reach Europe and nobody doubts they wouldn't nuke Europe too. The E.U. isn't going to let one mad man start another world war...

Mr. Ahmadinejad may think the U.S. doesn't have the stomach for another war and therefore would never attack Iran. There are some in the United States that would be against war no matter what the reason. That said President Bush doesn’t really care what the American people think. He has said he doesn't follow the polls. It is probably another one of his lies, he probably cares but he doesn't make his decisions based on polls. But he does usually go to war just before an election and guess what? There is a congressional election coming up this November. Mr. Ahmadinejad may want to check his ego and his nuclear ambitions because there are plenty of troops in Iraq that could easily move into Iran and overthrow his government in a moments notice. The one thing about President Bush is he doesn't bluff. Bush isn't going to back down against Ahmadinejad. Bush has a pretty big ego. If Ahmadinejad has as big an ego as Bush has my guess is next fall he will be sharing a cell with Saddam. If Iran gets nuclear weapons, there will be a nuclear war, Ahmadinejad has said he wants to wipe Israel off of the map and I believe him. That means the only option is to take him out before Iran gets nuclear weapons. It also is a way for the U.S. to get out of Iraq. You know Bush is thinking: bring it on...

My god it must be easy to be a liberal these days, just recycle the same old tired talking points from 3 years ago and run with it. Funny how you leave out the Israel option in this, they have a dog in this fight too. They'll get blamed for whatever happens anyway so I could see them sending a couple jets over there to bomb Ahmadinejad toward his glory as the 12th iman.

I don't expect a retort from you though since your modus operandi seems to be post worn out liberal talking points and then never back them up or clarify them. Guess it would suck for you to think on your own.

[Mazer]

For the benefit of everyone else who may want to discuss this topic, are there any specific points you disagree with, Hegemonic? I obviously don't agree with most of Repo's opinions but in this case I think he's making predictions and giving his analsys, not necessarily opining on these events (that would be pointless anyway, since none of this has happened yet).

Originally Posted by Mazer

not necessarily opining on these events

except for the parts full of his unfounded speculation and opinion.

stuck in a war with no good end in sight.

Except freeing 25 million people from tyranny, other than that insignificant bit it has done no good at all.

sending the country into deficit with little money to rebuild the Katrina devastated Gulf Coast

$17 billion per state = LITTLE MONEY!

It is probably another one of his lies

Nope, no opining there.

But he does usually go to war just before an election and guess what? There is a congressional election coming up this November.

Yes, he's so wily we went to war in 2001...3 years before an election and in 2003 1 year before an election. To Mr. Knife apparently anytime within a presidential term of office is cryptically "just before an election" so the president shouldn't do anything that might protect the country, lest he be accused of starting wars to get elected years in the future.

Bush has a pretty big ego

No opining there again. Considering Bush's pretty well known perchant for self-depricating humor I'd say if anything he has self-esteem issues, not ego issues.

To call this screed "non biased" or non opinionated is a crock o shit.

[Mazer]

Originally Posted by Hegemonic

To call this screed "non biased" or non opinionated is a crock o shit.

Read into Repo's words what you will and have your say. For myself I got bored with Repo a long time ago, he's such an easy target.

[Repo]

Originally Posted by Mazer

Read into Repo's words what you will and have your say. For myself I got bored with Repo a long time ago, he's such an easy target.

let he who is without sin, cast the first stone

[theknife]

Originally Posted by Hegemonic

except for the parts full of his unfounded speculation and opinion.



Except freeing 25 million people from tyranny, other than that insignificant bit it has done no good at all.


$17 billion per state = LITTLE MONEY!


Nope, no opining there.


Yes, he's so wily we went to war in 2001...3 years before an election and in 2003 1 year before an election. To Mr. Knife apparently anytime within a presidential term of office is cryptically "just before an election" so the president shouldn't do anything that might protect the country, lest he be accused of starting wars to get elected years in the future.


No opining there again. Considering Bush's pretty well known perchant for self-depricating humor I'd say if anything he has self-esteem issues, not ego issues.

still drinking the kool-aid, huh? you know deep down inside your boy Bush is a fucking disaster, but that is one reality check you just can't cash. we have incompetent, foolish, and duplicitous government - the leadership of whom are largely under criminal investigation and/or indictment at the moment. five years of Bush and GOP control is like watching a slow-motion train wreck. must be getting a little slow over on your blog, huh, as more and more people swim away from the ship.

yawn. another boring, ignorant liberal. Come back when you can back up your regurgitated talking points with anything resembling facts.

[multi]

China will not let Mr. Ahmadinejad's ego hurt their economy

It seems Russia will sell Mr. Ahmadinejad Sunburn Missile Yakhonts ..etc
so if they get these nuclear weapons, if all hell doesn't break lose there first there could be some sort of cold war type of nuclear stand off..not the inevitable immediate dustruction of Israel
he might want them off the map but i doubt he will risk having his own country blown off the map in the process

Originally Posted by multi

It seems Russia will sell Mr. Ahmadinejad Sunburn Missile Yakhonts ..etc
so if they get these nuclear weapons, if all hell doesn't break lose there first there could be some sort of cold war type of nuclear stand off..not the inevitable immediate dustruction of Israel
he might want them off the map but i doubt he will risk having his own country blown off the map in the process

Considering he's a firm 12th Iman believer I don't think we should assume anything with him.