Are you gonna cheat? - P2P-Zone

napho · 25-09-02, 02:18 AM

The latest version of Kazaa gives participation points if you upload alot. That allows you to download without waiting in a queue. It's easy to circumvent this simply by uploading to yourself; are you going to?

BuzzB2K · 25-09-02, 04:01 AM

I'm a Pirate not a Cheat... No I would never download to myself...

JackSpratts · 25-09-02, 09:48 AM

good for you buzz! but you'll be one of the few skilled users that doesn't. this ill thought participation scheme will work against its own intent. that much is obvious. what's a little surprising is how fast it's happened. if kazaa isn't careful they could wind up like winmx with everyone in endless queues except the crooks.

- js.

[Dark] · 25-09-02, 12:02 PM

nice buzz, i got the cheater from unitethecows too

pod · 25-09-02, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JackSpratts
if kazaa isn't careful they could wind up like winmx with everyone in endless queues except the crooks.

Wanna elaborate on that last point?

Intimidated · 25-09-02, 05:51 PM

LoL, i see you guys found my tool. Heh, brought to you by the same guy who brought you rebound....

Please, if you're gonna link to it, link to the thread on UTC not directly to the file!!! Thanks.

Int.

BuzzB2K · 25-09-02, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Intimidated
LoL, i see you guys found my tool. Heh, brought to you by the same guy who brought you rebound....

Please, if you're gonna link to it, link to the thread on UTC not directly to the file!!! Thanks.

Int.

Intimidated - You got it... You may want to drop by DKchips DietK site, That was where I found the link... Or on second thought I might just drop by and mention it...

Jack - Did you miss the link in the middle of my post

JackSpratts · 25-09-02, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pod

Wanna elaborate on that last point?

automated leech controls are ripe for abuse by savvy leeches. honest sharers with neither the time nor the inclination to hack their way to the head of the queue can find themselves falling farther and farther behind and getting more and more frustrated about it. at some point they ditch the client or use it as a last resort, like so many now do with winmx and it's seemingly endless queues.

this would be unfortunate for fasttrack because of the major networks its waits are the shortest and that excellent reputation, while so hard to build is also so easy to lose.

- js.

BuzzB2K · 26-09-02, 02:54 AM

To use Intimidateds' tool you need to do two things.

Enable sharing or it won't work.

Increase your bandwidth to unlimited.

Not exactly common settings for a leech...

JediForce77 · 26-09-02, 02:57 PM

You also need the Visual Basic (VB) 6.0
Kazaa 2.0 "Participation" hack tool Go there and click on the link "Run Time Files." That will be in the first post by Intimidated.
It allowed me to use it correctly.

Intimidated · 03-10-02, 04:52 PM

There is a new version of the Kazaa Cheater.

It's available from UniteTheCows.com right now. (check the large dark red writing directing you to it!)

Mowzer · 04-10-02, 01:27 PM

The best thing about this new tool is....

...it can be uninstalled.

If your not a leech and never were there is no need for this kinda bloatware.

multi · 05-10-02, 02:52 AM

i had a shot of the new version of this hack
I had to install kazza 2 first...
and i was a "guru" in no time

soon to become
a "deity"
hehe

though i would say my use of kazza at the most 2-3 times a month will hardly qualify me as a leech...

Moist_Funny_Head · 06-10-02, 08:38 PM

I found the rating system to be a total crock of shit. Even sharing with unlimited bandwidth, the rating went down significantly overnight. If people don't download from you then you don't increase your rating. I'm not going to disadvantage myself just because (A) I don't have unlimited bandwidth to share and (B) I don't have that many uploads. This rating system will be/already is a waste of time. Pretty soon everyone will be on 1000 points so it will be as though everyone is on zero again (being on even ground).

assorted · 07-10-02, 12:05 PM

there's no need for this kind of silly system anyway. kazaa had barely any que lines before this and now i find myself getting queued more and more.

ratios kill communities. that's the way it's always been and always will be.

and yes, i'm going to boost myself to 1,000 because the system is inherently flawed.

zombywoof · 07-10-02, 12:53 PM

Kazaa created this system, so yeah, I'll use it to get to the front of the line with the other 'supreme beings'.

Hey, this is what happens when a system gets implemented with some sort of leach control, karma, points or whatever you want to call it. They should have never gone this route.

twinspan · 09-10-02, 08:53 AM

i still haven't encountered anyone with very high points, and the vast majority are on 0. If there are cheats out there, they don't seem to have muscled their way into my upload slots.

i bounce around between High and Guru, playing it perfectly straight, and get good speeds; so the Ratings and Cheat don't seem to have done anything egregious to the network as I experience it.

colinmacc · 09-10-02, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twinspan

i still haven't encountered anyone with very high points, and the vast majority are on 0. If there are cheats out there, they don't seem to have muscled their way into my upload slots.

I think the majority of people are yet to upgrade to version 2, which is why they are on (0). Also Grokster and IMesh users will be on (0) too.

The participation level has yet to make any sort of a difference to the network, good or bad.

Drakonix · 09-10-02, 10:18 AM

I just installed Kazaa Lite 2, and decided to see what the "helper" would do. (I d/l both from www.k-lite.tk)

I went from 0 to 1000 in less than 1 minute. That's the fastest promotion I ever got, slimeball to "Supreme Being" in less than a minute.

Don't know if I will continue to use it or not.

I agree that P2P users (who can) should share. If no one shared, the system could not work. There are those that can not share due to corporate firewalls.

Merely sharing does not not increase your "points", folks have to download from you. This seems to encourage sharing (more) popular files. However, when more share the same file the chance that someone will download it from you goes down.

The system is not very well thought out, unless the client plus the cheater is just a way to edge out other (non-Kazaa) clients.

WilliamdeWorde · 16-10-02, 09:55 AM

share and share alike..

25-09-02, 02:18 AM	#1
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	Are you gonna cheat? The latest version of Kazaa gives participation points if you upload alot. That allows you to download without waiting in a queue. It's easy to circumvent this simply by uploading to yourself; are you going to?

25-09-02, 04:01 AM	#2
BuzzB2K Just another cat on the FastTrack... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton Posts: 727	Re: Are you gonna cheat? I'm a Pirate not a Cheat... No I would never download to myself... __________________ Buzz FastTrack Central - FastTrackMovies.com - Sig2dat for Idiots Last edited by BuzzB2K : 25-09-02 at 07:00 PM.

25-09-02, 05:51 PM	#6
Intimidated Sir Share-a-lot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Horsham Posts: 6	UTC cheat? LoL, i see you guys found my tool. Heh, brought to you by the same guy who brought you rebound.... Please, if you're gonna link to it, link to the thread on UTC not directly to the file!!! Thanks. Int. __________________ You are now reading a signature. This signature is designed to waste at least two seconds of your time.

26-09-02, 02:54 AM	#9
BuzzB2K Just another cat on the FastTrack... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton Posts: 727	To use Intimidateds' tool you need to do two things. Enable sharing or it won't work. Increase your bandwidth to unlimited. Not exactly common settings for a leech... __________________ Buzz FastTrack Central - FastTrackMovies.com - Sig2dat for Idiots

03-10-02, 04:52 PM	#11
Intimidated Sir Share-a-lot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Horsham Posts: 6	New Version There is a new version of the Kazaa Cheater. It's available from UniteTheCows.com right now. (check the large dark red writing directing you to it!) __________________ You are now reading a signature. This signature is designed to waste at least two seconds of your time.

25-09-02, 09:48 AM	#3
JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,017	good for you buzz! but you'll be one of the few skilled users that doesn't. this ill thought participation scheme will work against its own intent. that much is obvious. what's a little surprising is how fast it's happened. if kazaa isn't careful they could wind up like winmx with everyone in endless queues except the crooks. - js.

25-09-02, 12:02 PM	#4
[Dark] 1981 - 2003 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,126	nice buzz, i got the cheater from unitethecows too

26-09-02, 02:57 PM	#10
JediForce77 A Jedi's Strength Flows From TheForce.net Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 18	You also need the Visual Basic (VB) 6.0 Kazaa 2.0 "Participation" hack tool Go there and click on the link "Run Time Files." That will be in the first post by Intimidated. It allowed me to use it correctly.

04-10-02, 01:27 PM	#12
Mowzer ' Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 209	The best thing about this new tool is.... ...it can be uninstalled. If your not a leech and never were there is no need for this kinda bloatware.

05-10-02, 02:52 AM	#13
multi Thanks for being with arse Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The other side of the world Posts: 10,343	i had a shot of the new version of this hack I had to install kazza 2 first... and i was a "guru" in no time soon to become a "deity" hehe though i would say my use of kazza at the most 2-3 times a month will hardly qualify me as a leech... __________________ i beat the internet - the end boss is hard Secret Temple of It

06-10-02, 08:38 PM	#14
Moist_Funny_Head Steal this avatar and you die my friend....and then you die. Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Melbourne ay Posts: 1,371	I found the rating system to be a total crock of shit. Even sharing with unlimited bandwidth, the rating went down significantly overnight. If people don't download from you then you don't increase your rating. I'm not going to disadvantage myself just because (A) I don't have unlimited bandwidth to share and (B) I don't have that many uploads. This rating system will be/already is a waste of time. Pretty soon everyone will be on 1000 points so it will be as though everyone is on zero again (being on even ground). __________________ I am the smartest man alive!

07-10-02, 12:05 PM	#15
assorted WAH! Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 725	there's no need for this kind of silly system anyway. kazaa had barely any que lines before this and now i find myself getting queued more and more. ratios kill communities. that's the way it's always been and always will be. and yes, i'm going to boost myself to 1,000 because the system is inherently flawed. __________________ I hate hate haters

07-10-02, 12:53 PM	#16
zombywoof Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 2,160	Kazaa created this system, so yeah, I'll use it to get to the front of the line with the other 'supreme beings'. Hey, this is what happens when a system gets implemented with some sort of leach control, karma, points or whatever you want to call it. They should have never gone this route.

09-10-02, 08:53 AM	#17
twinspan - a rascal - Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: for security reasons, never the same as the President's Posts: 759	i still haven't encountered anyone with very high points, and the vast majority are on 0. If there are cheats out there, they don't seem to have muscled their way into my upload slots. i bounce around between High and Guru, playing it perfectly straight, and get good speeds; so the Ratings and Cheat don't seem to have done anything egregious to the network as I experience it.

09-10-02, 10:18 AM	#19
Drakonix Just Draggin' Along Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 1,210	I just installed Kazaa Lite 2, and decided to see what the "helper" would do. (I d/l both from www.k-lite.tk) I went from 0 to 1000 in less than 1 minute. That's the fastest promotion I ever got, slimeball to "Supreme Being" in less than a minute. Don't know if I will continue to use it or not. I agree that P2P users (who can) should share. If no one shared, the system could not work. There are those that can not share due to corporate firewalls. Merely sharing does not not increase your "points", folks have to download from you. This seems to encourage sharing (more) popular files. However, when more share the same file the chance that someone will download it from you goes down. The system is not very well thought out, unless the client plus the cheater is just a way to edge out other (non-Kazaa) clients. __________________ Copyright means the copy of the CD/DVD burned with no errors. I will never spend a another dime on content that I can’t use the way I please. If I can’t copy it to my hard drive and play it using the devices I want, when and where I want, I won’t be buying it. Period. They can all take their DRM, broadcast flags, rootkits, and Compact Discs that aren’t really compact discs and shove them up their bottom-lines.

16-10-02, 09:55 AM	#20
WilliamdeWorde reporter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Land of the Rising Sun Posts: 45	share and share alike.. __________________ Where there's a will There is ALWAYS a way

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