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US death toll in Iraq passes 1000...no surprise there, everyone saw it coming.
meanwhile, the Iraqi death toll is estimated at somewhere between 10,000 and 30,000.... Quote:
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make no mistake, these people do care about kids - right up until the minute they're born. who would Jesus bomb? http://www.boston.com/dailynews/252/...k_Omar_:.shtml |
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it's a f*cking outrage for both countries.
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It's a war...people die...it's all thousands of miles away...you're safe...relax. |
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isn't that the same as when i search for columbine i get several threads within this forum but not one about the school in russia?
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actually, what happens is i spend a lot of time in my car...and all i get on the the radio, all day, is non-stop conservative rightie whining. by the end of the day, i need to vent so i come here. Quote:
165 kids dead....it only deepens my conviction that, if there is a God, He really doesn't give a shit what we do to each other. |
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Even tho it's ''all thousand of miles away'' , it's still happening[/END SARCASM] |
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What are you getting all worked up over? It has even less effect on you. |
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Okay I'm ending my religious rant. Now lets get back to politics as usual. |
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Well why doesn't he save us from natural disasters then? Can't blame mankind for those hurricanes and earthquakes.
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I can say it has less effect on you because Canadians aren't doing the dying and future Canadians won't have to pay the bill.
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Sounds like you're still trying to blame people for getting killed. It's the poor people's fault for living in mud huts when earthquakes hit or not being able to fly off their caribbean island before a hurricane.
So it goes back to -if god exists he really doesn't give a shit. |
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@mazer you said :' Why do people make bad decisions when they've been provided with ample wisdom beforehand'
Please don't tell me you mean the bible with this. Isn't the TRUTH always found within ones own religion? I think you get my drift here, different relions different 'bibles' all parties are claiming that 'theirs' is the only 'God' there is. you said:' I would argue that he gave us advice in the form of commandments' Great .... didn't he also drowned the world population with a flood didn't his followers (moses) killed their peers for building an icon? whipe out all the first born sons of egypt? i don't think it is a wise thing to drag the bible into this, for it shows that god isn't a nice being @miss silver i think albed lacks the ability to feel empathy for those who's sons and/or daughters got killed in Iraq coz he knows of no one close to him that is under any threat over there and since he has no clue to what impact a war zone can have on someone it is pretty easy for him to shoot his mouth off. On the otherhand the war might be injust to you (and with the international law book in your hand you are right) i don't think there was an alternative either. If a country might form a danger to Canada i don't believe your goverment would just sit by to see what will happen....... i am pretty sure Canada would act. As America did, Russia did or the Netherlands Would if we/you were threatend. However i do remember before the war in Iraq started George W. read a letter from a ten year old girl or something that he could have her dad for his war on national television. This got me wondering who is worse Hamas or .......well???
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Feel free to fill the old drama queen's shoes.
Three soldiers killed today in Iraq..."Oh this is so tragic, I feel just terrible...I can't think about it without crying...those poor men"-one woman-I mean those poor people fighting so bravely"-driving in a convoy-"I mean serving so gallantly"-correction: nobody was harmed in today's attack-...SHIT Last edited by albed : 09-09-04 at 07:02 PM. |
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Being just and being nice aren't necessarily the same thing, toy boy, though injustice is never nice. Those biblical examples you pointed out lead me to believe that God has to be fair but he doesn't need to be merciful. From an ethical standpoint I think fairness and mercy sometimes oppose each other, but that may depend on which side of the conflict your on, who the benefactor of justice is. These happen to be non-religious themes, cropping up throughout history without the benefit of devine revelation, but the fact that God subscirbes to these philosophies neither discredits nor adds weight to them. The bible is simply one source of wisdom.
Albed, I'm not assigning blame to people for getting themselves killed just like I know you're not blaming God for doing nothing to save them. My point is that people who think God should save the world completly misunderstand his reason for putting us in harm's way to begin with. We live so that we can die someday, and there are lessons to be learned in that process. If we never experienced pain and loss then we'd be pretty dumb, defenseless creatures. God has no use for such a being, so we're given free will and then subject to mortality. "Thou shall not murder" he said, but even if he hadn't we would have learned it eventually because murder is a crime against man as well as God. |
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The original theme was "if there is a god he really doesn't give a shit"
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