ohhh bloody hell - P2P-Zone

schmooky007 · 05-06-01, 11:34 PM

literally all online "e-drives" are either going out of business or switch to subscription service

grab what u can off the napsterites apps locker

Quote:

Dear doctor macnugget:

As a registered i-drive account holder, you are receiving this email to inform you that your i-drive account will no longer be accessible after June 18, 2001.

After June 18th, the i-drive online file storage service will no longer be available through our Web site - www.idrive.com. Instead, i-drive is licensing the software that powers i-drive.com to telecommunications carriers and Internet Service Providers worldwide, so that they can provide their customers with storage services that are fully integrated with their other offerings.

You will have until June 18th to remove your files from your i-drive. After June 18th, you will no longer be able to access your i-drive account or retrieve your files.

Login now at http://www.idrive.com.

Remind me of my password https://www.idrive.com/mydrive/passwordRecovery.jsp.

As an online file storage alternative, i-drive recommends the subscription-based Xdrive Plus online file storage service. You can take advantage of the 15-day free trial offer by downloading your files from i-drive, signing up for your free 15-day trial at http://www.idrive.com/mydrive/clickO...aff=idri060501 and then uploading your files to your new Xdrive Plus account. After the first 15 days, Xdrive will bill your credit card for $4.95 per month. Xdrive guarantees your satisfaction and you can cancel at any time.

Please contact your mobile phone carrier or Internet Service Provider to find out when they will make i-drive-powered online storage a part of their service offering. We encourage you to visit our Web site throughout the year to find out about new i-drive installations worldwide.

Thank you for being an i-drive user! We have enjoyed providing the i-drive service to you - you have helped us to develop a tremendous technology.

Sincerely,

The i-drive Team

*Note: If any of the above links do not work, please cut and paste the link into your browser's address window.

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schmooky007 · 05-06-01, 11:43 PM

we have a backup.. that is to say we HAD a backup

Quote:

Dear Ahmed,

My name is Steve Crummey, and I am the CEO and founder of
Intranets.com. I am writing to thank you for being an administrator
of napsterites.intranets.com and I want to share with you a very
important announcement regarding our service.

On June 30th we will eliminate our free, advertising-supported version
and convert to a subscription-based offering. As a result, you will
soon be required to pay for a subscription or discontinue your
service. We are eager to keep you as a member, so I hope you'll take
advantage of our special Charter Subscriber pricing.

We are doing this for several reasons. First, given the industry-wide
decline in the advertising market, it is no longer possible to provide
a dynamic free service based strictly on advertising. Second, we've
received an overwhelmingly positive response to our subscription-based
Professional Edition, and have decided to focus our resources solely
on enhancing this version.

**knockin head on desk**

zombywoof · 06-06-01, 04:56 AM

Unfortunately, it looks as though the internet is heading into a direction where you will have to pay for the information you are looking for after you pay your monthly ISP access charges. Just wait and see whats going to happen on the net over the next few years. Next to your keyboard and mouse, you will need to have a credit card handy as you are surfing the net. The days of free access after ISP subscription IMO are numbered.

06-06-01, 08:02 PM

Maybe you're right Oscar but I think that ISP's will start to provide extra services like online drives that they will include with their normal service. Maybe a regular internet service along with a premium service that costs more and includes more features. Then we'll start to see the kind of competition between ISP's that we see between the major news networks. I think AOL Time Warmer will start off by buying a bunch of small cable and dsl service providers. Then they'll buy Napster and i-drive clones and get a bunch of copyrights on their proprietary software. Then AOL will (suck even more and) tell everyone that they have special services that no other ISP can have (because if they do they'll sick their lawyers on them). After a while MSN, CompuServe, AT&T Worldnet, and Prodigy will follow suit and provide their own suite of services.

Eventually you won't be able to access certain news sites using the wrong ISP. For example MSNBC will only be freely accessible to MSN subscribers, everyone else will have to pay. Time Magazine's web site will only be accessible to AOL users. Then the big five ISP's will start buying all the web hosting companies and then they will control most of the web space. And even web sites will be blocked if they're hosted by an ISP's rival.

Soon the Internet will be like a pie with slices belonging to corporations. The the ISP's will stop being service providers and will become content providers. And since most of their business will come from other companies most of that content won't be very useful the the individual net surfer. There'll really be half a dozen internets and not a single unified network. The new ICP's will introduce newer services that will let you access the whole internet for a small (large) fee.

Eventually each ICP will limit user privileges. They'll not allow you to host FTP or OpenNap servers, they won't let you use competitors' p2p or media player software, and they'll shut down warez and hacker sites (but not the porn sites, go figure). They force forums like this one to be moderated by corporate blockheads whose job is to promote paid content rather than free speech.

The internet will become compartmentalized and sectioned off to the various corporations involved. Their lawyers will jump on every chance to sue somebody for copyright infringement. Probably the government will start to tax internet use since the ICP's will control it pretty strictly. Then you'll have to pay for every email you write, every web page you visit, every item you buy, every game you play... on top of your connection fee.

But it won't last.

Eventually an open source internet will be developed, like Linux was, that will be better than the original and will not be infested with "content" and corporate interests. Rather than trying to fix all the security holes and backwards, three-decade-old code, programmers will start fresh and write software that will allow people to operate independently of the old internet. It will thrive on p2p networking but will coexist with c/s networks, too. It'll be better than the old internet in every way, and the companies that monopolized the net and pushed out all the good programmers will suffer from their greed.

It's not a happy prediction for the future, but I think that's how it's going to happen. It happened to Napster, it'll eventually happen to the whole internet. But I hope it won't.

thinker · 06-06-01, 09:29 PM

mike4947 posted a link a couple of days ago to a good article on whether everything may end up as subscription. Unfortunately the original thread deteriorated and isn't worth resurrecting, but here is the link:

http://msn.zdnet.com/msn/zdnet/story...5ab%2C00.html/

I think it's worth a read.

mike4947 · 06-06-01, 10:03 PM

I think AOL Time Warmer will start off by buying a bunch of small cable and dsl service providers

Since time warner already uses road runner through out it's cable system where it has upgraded the lines to handle digital I doubt you see them looking for dsl or small cable ISP providers. What I think you will see is the small providers priced out of existance.

gazdet · 06-06-01, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mazer
They force forums like this one to be moderated by corporate blockheads whose job is to promote paid content rather than free speech.

over my dead cheque book they will

mike4947 · 06-06-01, 11:01 PM

Soon the Internet will be like a pie with slices belonging to corporations. The the ISP's will stop being service providers and will become content providers. And since most of their business will come from other companies most of that content won't be very useful the the individual net surfer

Most of your search engines are this way already. If I find the article on what percentage of the WWW that the searchs for each of the top ten actually search I'll post it. If I remember right the highest was 17%.

pgs92109 · 08-06-01, 12:23 AM

This thread is downright depressing! But it does look as if we're headed that direction. I'm hoping Mazer is right, and eventually we'll have a "new internet" where information once again flows freely.

Cash-- · 08-06-01, 12:47 AM

I have said this before....and Ill say it again.

DONT PAY.

If nobody pays...then nobody collects.....and no profits are made.

Altho...Mazer's solution sounds better to me.

06-06-01, 04:56 AM	#3
zombywoof Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 2,160	Unfortunately, it looks as though the internet is heading into a direction where you will have to pay for the information you are looking for after you pay your monthly ISP access charges. Just wait and see whats going to happen on the net over the next few years. Next to your keyboard and mouse, you will need to have a credit card handy as you are surfing the net. The days of free access after ISP subscription IMO are numbered. Last edited by zombywoof : 06-06-01 at 05:49 AM.

06-06-01, 10:03 PM	#6
mike4947 I'd rather be sailing Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,648	I think AOL Time Warmer will start off by buying a bunch of small cable and dsl service providers Since time warner already uses road runner through out it's cable system where it has upgraded the lines to handle digital I doubt you see them looking for dsl or small cable ISP providers. What I think you will see is the small providers priced out of existance. __________________

06-06-01, 11:01 PM	#8
mike4947 I'd rather be sailing Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,648	Soon the Internet will be like a pie with slices belonging to corporations. The the ISP's will stop being service providers and will become content providers. And since most of their business will come from other companies most of that content won't be very useful the the individual net surfer Most of your search engines are this way already. If I find the article on what percentage of the WWW that the searchs for each of the top ten actually search I'll post it. If I remember right the highest was 17%. __________________

08-06-01, 12:47 AM	#10
Cash-- $¢$¢¢$ Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,455	I have said this before....and Ill say it again. DONT PAY. If nobody pays...then nobody collects.....and no profits are made. Altho...Mazer's solution sounds better to me. __________________ Rest In Peace: Michael S. Beier January 4, 1981 - December 10, 2003 We love you and miss you brother

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06-06-01, 08:02 PM	#4
Mazer Posts: n/a	Maybe you're right Oscar but I think that ISP's will start to provide extra services like online drives that they will include with their normal service. Maybe a regular internet service along with a premium service that costs more and includes more features. Then we'll start to see the kind of competition between ISP's that we see between the major news networks. I think AOL Time Warmer will start off by buying a bunch of small cable and dsl service providers. Then they'll buy Napster and i-drive clones and get a bunch of copyrights on their proprietary software. Then AOL will (suck even more and) tell everyone that they have special services that no other ISP can have (because if they do they'll sick their lawyers on them). After a while MSN, CompuServe, AT&T Worldnet, and Prodigy will follow suit and provide their own suite of services. Eventually you won't be able to access certain news sites using the wrong ISP. For example MSNBC will only be freely accessible to MSN subscribers, everyone else will have to pay. Time Magazine's web site will only be accessible to AOL users. Then the big five ISP's will start buying all the web hosting companies and then they will control most of the web space. And even web sites will be blocked if they're hosted by an ISP's rival. Soon the Internet will be like a pie with slices belonging to corporations. The the ISP's will stop being service providers and will become content providers. And since most of their business will come from other companies most of that content won't be very useful the the individual net surfer. There'll really be half a dozen internets and not a single unified network. The new ICP's will introduce newer services that will let you access the whole internet for a small (large) fee. Eventually each ICP will limit user privileges. They'll not allow you to host FTP or OpenNap servers, they won't let you use competitors' p2p or media player software, and they'll shut down warez and hacker sites (but not the porn sites, go figure). They force forums like this one to be moderated by corporate blockheads whose job is to promote paid content rather than free speech. The internet will become compartmentalized and sectioned off to the various corporations involved. Their lawyers will jump on every chance to sue somebody for copyright infringement. Probably the government will start to tax internet use since the ICP's will control it pretty strictly. Then you'll have to pay for every email you write, every web page you visit, every item you buy, every game you play... on top of your connection fee. But it won't last. Eventually an open source internet will be developed, like Linux was, that will be better than the original and will not be infested with "content" and corporate interests. Rather than trying to fix all the security holes and backwards, three-decade-old code, programmers will start fresh and write software that will allow people to operate independently of the old internet. It will thrive on p2p networking but will coexist with c/s networks, too. It'll be better than the old internet in every way, and the companies that monopolized the net and pushed out all the good programmers will suffer from their greed. It's not a happy prediction for the future, but I think that's how it's going to happen. It happened to Napster, it'll eventually happen to the whole internet. But I hope it won't.

06-06-01, 09:29 PM	#5
thinker Ex-Singular Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Earth Posts: 4,677	mike4947 posted a link a couple of days ago to a good article on whether everything may end up as subscription. Unfortunately the original thread deteriorated and isn't worth resurrecting, but here is the link: http://msn.zdnet.com/msn/zdnet/story...5ab%2C00.html/ I think it's worth a read.

08-06-01, 12:23 AM	#9
pgs92109 Senior Napsterite Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 184	This thread is downright depressing! But it does look as if we're headed that direction. I'm hoping Mazer is right, and eventually we'll have a "new internet" where information once again flows freely.