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15-08-05, 12:48 PM | #41 | |
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Heard of any more mass murders in Iraq like the ones Saddam committed while the UN was sucking up oil for food bribes? Your nearsightedness combined with your selective memory means you miss or forget many relevant occurrences or their absence. Last edited by albed : 15-08-05 at 12:59 PM. |
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15-08-05, 12:49 PM | #42 | ||
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15-08-05, 03:09 PM | #43 | |
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"Democracy is a form of government in which policy is decided by the preference of the majority in a decision-making process, usually elections or referendum, open to all or most citizens. It is now commonly used as a synonym for liberal-democratic systems in nation- states. Most of these are parliamentary representative democracies, but there are many varieties of democracy, some still hypothetical. In recent years, definitions of democracy have broadened to include aspects of society and political culture in democratic societies, which are not a 'form of government'. The term 'democratic' is also used in a looser sense, to describe participatory decision-making in groups or organisations." from wiki "Democracies fall into two basic categories, direct and representative. Today, the most common form of democracy, whether for a town of 50,000 or nations of 50 million, is representative democracy, in which citizens elect officials to make political decisions, formulate laws, and administer programs for the public good. In the name of the people, such officials can deliberate on complex public issues in a thoughtful and systematic manner that requires an investment of time and energy that is often impractical for the vast majority of private citizens." from the us department of state. - js. |
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15-08-05, 03:22 PM | #44 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
The United States of America—also referred to as the United States, the USA, the US, America, the States (colloquially), and Columbia (poetically)—is a democratic, federal republic of 50 states. Fuck Jack this is high school stuff. Ever say the pledge of allegiance? http://www.answers.com/republic&r=67 # 1. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president. 2. A nation that has such a political order. Last edited by albed : 15-08-05 at 03:37 PM. |
15-08-05, 03:29 PM | #45 |
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Wrong Jack... One is Rule by Law the other is Rule by Majority....
Constitution of the United States of America Article IV Section. 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence. also read --- Federalist Paper #10 by James Madison
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15-08-05, 06:44 PM | #46 |
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Oh man, not this tired discussion agian.
Tambs, you weren't too hash on the media for their dilution of the message. In my opinion people should question the media every bit as much as the media questions the government. Unfortunatly info-tainment drives up advertisement revenues, and as long as it's more profitable to toss softball questions at this or any administration then that's what they're going to do. I blame this all on the Screenwriter's Guild strike a few years ago. Because of them TV producers couldn't get anybody to write a decent fictional show so they hoarked up a bunch of reality TV shows to fill the voids in their fall line-ups. Now the news agencies think they have to make real life compete with TV reality, and the only way to do that is to fake it up and make it look semi-scripted. The reporters there in Crawford are probably coaching Ms. Sheehan the way reality TV producers coach their 'contestants' off camera. If it weren't for them and their support (read: instigation) she would have given up after the first week. |
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labels like definitions migrate and change in time. what we have here in the u.s. we call a democracy. as well as by the people it is defined as such by the united states government. canada may be another story. if you have a problem with a living language get out your quills and send a pigeon to chaucer. - js. |
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15-08-05, 10:10 PM | #48 | ||
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The authoritative references define the US as a Republic as you've seen Jack. You, of course, can call it whatever you want, just as you've done in the past.
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Be sure to bring up the subject in your next campaign so the ignorant trailer trash will know you're one of them and not one of those educated, booklearned, city folk. |
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16-08-05, 07:59 AM | #49 | |
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unlike you i’m not arguing for rigid definitions – i'm arguing against them. nowhere did i deny a republic. the country was founded by those whose idealized versions of political platforms borrowed heavily from the ancient greeks. 200 years later the differences are lost to many and we say, and yes the united states government says, we have a democracy. bush & co aren’t sending our fair girls and boys to die in iraq to install a republic, not in speeches i heard on any campaign trails, whether thru manicured fields of grecian palaces or rutted roads of rusting trailer parks. a distinction lost on you perhaps, since this is connecticut, and our mobiile homes are worth more than your mcmansions. - js. |
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Well until they amend the Constitution, I will call your form of Government a Democratic Republic. You can be as condescending has you want too, it won’t change my mind. I never was one to follow the crowd. Oh, and it is different here in Canada, Canada has a Socialist Government. Sorry Mazer, went off topic. I watched Cindy last night in an interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN and I have to say she really is not an intelligent person. She avoided the tuff questions and really doesn’t know what she is talking about. I think she is either a racist or somebody’s puppet. She absolutely does not deserve a second meeting with George W. Bush.
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17-08-05, 02:01 AM | #51 |
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Grieving Bush Protestor Has No Exit Strategy
by Scott Ott (2005-08-16) -- Cindy Sheehan, the protestor whose son died fighting for freedom in Iraq, today acknowledged that she has "no exit strategy" for getting out of what some have called the "quagmire in Crawford" outside of the Texas ranch of President George Bush. "My opponent is more entrenched than I expected," said Mrs. Sheehan, whose vigil has focused national attention on the ability of the news media to focus national attention on Mrs. Sheehan. "I'm still committed to victory, but it may take longer than I thought at first." Mrs. Sheehan said she is willing to "pay any price, bear any burden" to get a second meeting with Mr. Bush. |
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=1044611
Woman sets herself on fire protesting Israel's Gaza Strip withdrawal. hint-hint-hint |
18-08-05, 02:28 PM | #53 | |
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18-08-05, 03:56 PM | #54 | |
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yet somehow she effortlessly manages to make the Prez look like a shmuck, every day that she's out there. this in turn drives the wing nuts crazy and they work overtime to bury her in sleaze:
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18-08-05, 04:30 PM | #55 |
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"Last year, the President met with Mrs. Sheehan, comforted her, and grieved with her. At the time, Mrs. Sheehan thought the President had done well and appreciated him. Enter August, no major news, and a media still smarting over the President's re-election despite everything they threw at him. Cindy Sheehan returns entering stage right -- this time a left wing media whore in the form of a grieving mother." "While Casey's grandparents, aunts, uncles, and numerous cousins having issued a statement saying Sheehan "now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation," Man, what a smear knife! From her own relatives no less. "Concurrently, the media and the left ignore those parents of the fallen who are offended by Mrs. Sheehan, support the President, or otherwise recognize that Mrs. Sheehan's actions discredit and undermine the work so many fallen soldiers works hard for. Those people just do not make the story flow like the left wants." Really selective coverage wouldn't you say? But you're pretty selective yourself. Good link though, thorough and accurate. |
18-08-05, 06:19 PM | #56 |
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she's like the teflon leftie.... nothing sticks on her because nothing can challenge her fundamental legitamacy: her son died for a lie. i think deep down, the radical right knows this and it scares them - why else would they get so hysterical about her?
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18-08-05, 06:57 PM | #57 |
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Yep. They're so hysterical they go around shouting:
"HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME, I'M GRIEVING!" "BANG-BANG-BANG" "HEY MASS MEDIA COME OUT AND LOOK AT ME GRIEVING OVER HERE!" "ALL YOU LEFT WING RADICALS COME TO TEXAS AND JOIN ME WHILE I'M GRIEVING." She makes people hysterical alright. |
18-08-05, 09:33 PM | #58 |
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What lie, knife?
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there is The Big Lie, which is how i've come to fondly regard the Iraq War, which is characterized by a whole bunch of smaller lies, such as those listed below: Quote:
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