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Old 10-09-04, 10:41 AM   #1
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Default Red Alert: UK Patriot Act On Its Way

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All well-meaning people need to take action against the Civil Contingencies Bill now before the House of Lords. This extremely dangerous Bill would give the Government the legal power to put an end to democratic institutions and civil liberties in the UK. Believe it or not, it's true. No exaggeration.

Lord Lucas, speaking in the House of Lords during the July 5th second reading, came to the point:
"Are we opening up our system to the equivalent of what happened in Germany in 1933, where it became possible for an extreme party legitimately to hijack a democracy and turn it into something totalitarian? . . . They [the New Labour Government] appear to want a role of issuing diktats." He concluded by calling for amendments to the Bill which would safeguard our rights, "or we are signing our death warrant as a democracy".

That is exactly the issue and the menace.
Lord Lucas was not exaggerating.

This Bill, which is not far from passage (and demands radical amendment), enables the Government to declare a State of Emergency on practically any grounds - insignificant events (e.g. “damage to property”); “threatened” insignificant events (e.g. threatened disruption of a supply of money), even a “situation” would do, and a situation occurring outside the United Kingdom would also do.

In other words, anything goes.

If Parliament then approves the State of Emergency insisted upon by the Government (most of them know how to use a rubber stamp), then the Government can effectively rule by decree ---dictatorial power.

As the forthright, libertarian Lord Lucas said, “We can run on from there and ask at what point we recover our democracy.” The reader of this article can guess at the answer as well as anyone.

If the loss of democracy and civil liberties is of little concern to a particular reader, then consider the clause in the Bill that provides for the confiscation of property, “with or without compensation.”

This horrific Bill went through the House of Commons with paltry discussion, little opposition, and silence from the irresponsible corporate News Media. And the News Media remains silent as it proceeds through the House of Lords. This must not continue.

This Bill should be REJECTED OUTRIGHT
and put forward crippling amendments below**

**What kind of amendments should be proposed?

(1) Justifications for declaring an Emergency. Only an actual disaster should be grounds for declaring an Emergency. And “disaster” means a real disaster, and one that occurs within the UK.

(2) Powers granted.

No suspension of democracy.

No suspension of Parliament. No suspension of Civil Liberties.

(3) Coalition Government. No single party dictatorship.


(4) Parliamentary Approval of the emergency by two-third vote


One may well question why any additional powers at all should be granted to the Government. We already have Acts of Parliament that were quite sufficient for World War II and the Northern Ireland troubles. Touch them up a little if necessary, but no dictatorships here in Great Britain. No !!

What can we do in a little SPARE TIME to keep our Democracy and Civil Liberties - to take the teeth out of this subversive, anti-democratic Civil Contingencies Bill?

First, know that YOU, as an individual, have a great deal of potential influence. Legislators are not accustomed to hearing from Jo Public. (In contrast, they hear from corporations all the time.) When they do hear a sincere, reasonable opinion from a member of the Public, they immediately (explicitly or implicitly) multiply by hundreds. Why? Because they calculate that one sincere person telephoned or wrote, and therefore perhaps 300 or 500 people hold the same view but lack the initiative to communicate it to them. You can have real influence, if you'll use it. Let me suggest what you can do, in just a little SPARETIME.

Make some telephone calls. Just some phone calls. We MUST contact members of the House of Lords, and members of the News Media....
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Old 11-09-04, 05:36 AM   #2
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Old 14-09-04, 03:47 PM   #3
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Here comes the Russian PATRIOT ACT as well.

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As has been said all along by people opposed to the invasion of Iraq and the PATRIOT Act, there was a massive problem in undertaking a policy of preemption and rolling back constitutional rights due to terrorism.

Following the school attack last week in Russia, Putin has stepped up to directly, plainly do both. He announced he will attack anywhere he deems necessary in the world preemptively, and now he has announced massive, Constitution-smashing “reforms.”
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Q. Is Austrailia getting some Patriot act as well?
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Old 15-09-04, 01:16 AM   #4
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interesting read on the russia

there was a lot of laws passed just after 911 here ..they were never really put out in media in a way that was easy to understand ofcourse..
summed up in some way i think it was.. "giving wider ranging powers to the fedral police and intelligence agencies"

you guys probably have seen these sites..

dissapearing wings pale into insignificance..lots of questions mediacover-ups
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Q. Is Austrailia getting some Patriot act as well?
A. Yes, just as soon as they get around to suffering a terrorist attack.
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Old 20-09-04, 07:36 AM   #6
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27 March 2003 The Hon. Daryl Williams QM QC MP, Attorney-General - Reference of Terrorism Powers
Essential powers to ensure comprehensive national application of the federal counter-terrorism offences enacted last year passed the House of Representatives today.
27 March 2003 The Hon. Daryl Willilams AM QC MP, Attorney-General - ASIO Bill Passes House of Representatives
Vital powers to strengthen the ability of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) to identify and, where possible, prevent terrorist attacks in Australia, passed the House of Representatives this morning.
18 February 2003 Counter terrorism Legislation
Legislation to be introduced into Parliament tomorrow will give Northern Territory police the powers they need to fight terrorism and terrorist threats.
05 February 2003 Senator Ellison: Australia and Canada unite to share intelligence in the fight against money laundering and terrorist financing
Australia and Canada will exchange financial intelligence to combat money laundering and the financing of terrorism under a Memorandum of Understanding signed today by the Minister for Justice and Customs, Senator Chris Ellison.
04 February 2003 Australia and Malaysia join to fight money laundering and the financing of terrorism
Australia has taken a major step forward in the war against terror and money laundering through a significant agreement with the Malaysian Government, the Minister for Justice and Customs, Senator Chris Ellison announced today.
25 November 2002 Law Ministers Strengthen Commonwealth Cooperation
The 13th meeting of the Commonwealth Law Ministers has made considerable progress on legal issues underpinning the Coolum declaration of the Commonwealth Heads of Government in March 2002.
08 November 2002 Attorney-General: Doorstop Fremantle
Can I say that I am very pleased that the Standing committee of Attorneys General has agreed on a reference of state power to legislate in respect of counter-terrorism.
25 June 2002 - Amendments to ASIO Bill
The Government is keen to see swift passage of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Amendment (Terrorism) Bill 2002.
04 June 2002 - Counter-Terrorism Package
The Government has finalised its amendments to the counter-terrorism package of legislation following the report of the Senate Legal and Constitutional Legislation Committee.
07 April 2002 - National move to combat terror
The Commonwealth will take strategic control of national terrorist incidents in the most significant change to Australian terrorism management for more than 20 years.
26 March 2002 - Counter Terrorism - Review of the ASIO Legislation Amendment (Terrorism) Bill 2002
Parliamentary Joint Committee on ASIO, ASIS and DSD - Chairman, the Hon David Hull, MP
21 March 2002 - ASIO Legislation Amendment Bill introduced
The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Legislation Amendment (Terrorism) Bill 2002 was introduced into Parliament today.
21 March 2002 Passage of Anti-Hoax Bill
The first element of the Government's counter terrorism legislative package - the Criminal Code Amendment (Anti-Hoax and Other Measures) Bill 2002 - was passed by Parliament today

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A. Yes, just as soon as they get around to suffering a terrorist attack.
So what do you suggest? pray tell...........
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