What Talent Scouts Are Looking For

[Ramona_A_Stone]

or... Inside the Mind (term used loosely) of an A&R Representative
By Jake Sibley (Musicians' Exchange)
2002-04-11

<With slightly derisive editorial commentary>

I recently had the opportunity to appear as a panelist at the Nashville New Music Conference, an annual meeting which provides career-building seminars for musicians. With you folks in mind, I attended every seminar I could and took so many notes my hand almost fell off.

One of the presentations was given by a panel of A&R representatives, including Sharon Fitzgerald, an A&R rep for Columbia Records, and Bubba Smith, a rep for Word Entertainment, a Christian music company that distributes through Sony Music. Here's the advice they had to offer for artists interested in a major label contract.

Where Are the Talent Scouts?

No matter where you are, A&R people are lurking nearby. Fitzgerald emphatically repeated this point. "Columbia has scouts everywhere," says Fitzgerald. "There is not a city that isn't being watched. If you make some noise, we are going to hear about it."

You think you need to play a big show to get seen? Not true, says Fitzgerald: "I can't tell you how many shows I've been to where there were less than 10 people in the place." In fact, she found one of the artists she recently signed in a dive "where there were three other people in the audience, and they weren't even paying attention. But this kid was a star, and I knew it."

<Yeah, and it's not like if you throw enough of your company's money at a sock puppet, it could be a star too or anything>

Getting Noticed

So the scouts are out there... what can you do to catch their ear? Fitzgerald explains that radio airplay is not critical, due to the dramatic changes in the radio industry that I've discussed below. So don't spend too much energy banging on closed doors. Creating a local impact through live shows and word of mouth is the way to go. "We watch crowds very closely," says Fitzgerald, "to see their reactions to an artist." Bubba Smith agrees: "When they play live, how does the crowd react? It's not about whether I like the music or not. I have to push aside my own biases and personal taste and look at how the crowd is reacting."

Local insiders can help too. "Club owners love to talk, and they know more than anyone who is bringing in the crowds," Fitzgerald says.

Where else do the scouts get tips? The staff at indie labels - "Yeah, we call them, we talk to them," says Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald further reports that many bands are now being found through the Internet. She mentioned DemoDiaries.com and EarFood.net as two of her favorites sites.

Coming Trends

According to Fitzgerald, boy-bands are on the way out, and the labels are looking for music with a little more substance. "Christian music has snuck into the mainstream, and is still coming," she says, citing under-the-radar Christian acts like Collective Soul, Creed, and P.O.D. Especially after September 11th, Fitzgerald believes that a lot of the fluff will fall by the wayside in favor of "a guy with a guitar who really has something to say."

<Oh yeah, and we all know, Christian music is never fluff>

Demos

With the growing availability and dropping prices of professional recording tools, it's becoming increasingly important to put together a quality product. "Demos are sounding good," says Fitzgerald. "I'm getting stuff people did in their bedrooms that sounds amazing."

<You should surf some webcams, some of it looks pretty amazing too>

Still, the demo is primarily an indicator of the artist's live potential. Smith's first criterion when listening to a demo: "Do I want to go see this person live?"

Fitzgerald agrees: "There is no way I'm going to take a band (with a great demo) and a mediocre performance and put that in front of my boss. I don't care what the demo sounds like, you better get up there and wow me."

The Truth About Radio

"College radio is no longer important," says Fitzgerald, "especially for the popular music styles that majors are looking for. After the late 80's, college radio began shunning 'radio-friendly bands,' which is exactly what the majors want."

Meanwhile, commercial radio has been reduced to a near monopoly, and tremendous influence is required to get a track on the air. Fortunately, labels understand that commercial airplay is nearly impossible for local bands to achieve. Fitzgerald begs artists not to make the mistake of "believing that each radio station writes it's own playlist. Four companies run almost every single major radio station (in the U.S.) That means there are basically four people who decide what gets played in this country."

<Gee, if one of those four people is the mom of one of the guys in Staind, that'd explain a few things>

The same is true across the pond. "There is no free radio in Europe," says Fitzgerald, who worked in Europe for Sony Music.

Promotional Scams

You know all those "promotional companies" that offer to include you on a major compilation or shop your stuff to the majors for a "reasonable" fee? "In over four years in A&R," says Fitzgerald, "I've never had any of those people hand me anything." Avoid the scams. Flat, up-front fees are no good - if they really believe in your music, they'll work for a percentage of future profits.


I just thought this was a funny little article. In one sense, it paints the human wheels of the music industry as the frighteningly unhip and arbitrary locomotive it's always been, fueled largely by soul-less wannabees and nerdish club denizens who hand out A&R business cards to the accessible blonde groupies and who can only perceive music and musicians by equating their weight in predictable coolness against fashionable district loft rents, swimming pools, Porsches and cocaine, arriving at dumbed-down translations of the safari experience to be barked into a collective bourgeois pang of emptiness at those who have to work in the morning. And from the commentary about college radio, which seems to indicate that flourishing underground means that you'll flounder like blind cave fish in the mainstream, one might surmise that the next REM will be destined to remain a local pagan cult, which, I guess, isn't that surprising, given that it's basically a mysterious anomaly akin to the formation of crop circles anytime a decent band achieves airplay. On the other hand, I have to wonder if what many of us used to preach in the early days of Napster isn't coming, grudgingly and almost in spite of itself, to pass: broadly, that music with substance can only become more important in a world of "worthless" mass objects. Unfortunately, "substance" is still apparently synonymous with "the potential to cause traffic jams" and the chasm between "talent" and "liquid viability" remains seperated by planets so many light years apart that a dialogue through radio signals is prohibitive.

Thus, the answer to the age old question "what are talent scouts looking for" remains the same: anyone who can earn them bigger purple hats.

And this is why the dinosaurs are extinct.

[dead_frog]

Wow, I think that was a very bad article.

I don't believe a single word, I, the music consumer, listen to whatever I want to, no one has warped my tastes in any way.

I thoroughly enjoy every radio station in Europe and am constantly flipping through the frequencies, as staying on one too long means I miss some unbelievably great tunes on another.

I firmly believe that record companies' primary goal is to spread great music to masses of people.

That said, I will now retreat to my cd player with my favourite Limp Bizkit, Puddle of Mudd, Backstreet Boys and P.Diddy CDs.




Seriously though, I envy you for having been able to go there! Good comments too!

[TankGirl]

Originally posted by Ramona_A_Stone
I just thought this was a funny little article. In one sense, it paints the human wheels of the music industry as the frighteningly unhip and arbitrary locomotive it's always been, fueled largely by soul-less wannabees and nerdish club denizens who hand out A&R business cards to the accessible blonde groupies and who can only perceive music and musicians by equating their weight in predictable coolness against fashionable district loft rents, swimming pools, Porsches and cocaine, arriving at dumbed-down translations of the safari experience to be barked into a collective bourgeois pang of emptiness at those who have to work in the morning. And from the commentary about college radio, which seems to indicate that flourishing underground means that you'll flounder like blind cave fish in the mainstream, one might surmise that the next REM will be destined to remain a local pagan cult, which, I guess, isn't that surprising, given that it's basically a mysterious anomaly akin to the formation of crop circles anytime a decent band achieves airplay. On the other hand, I have to wonder if what many of us used to preach in the early days of Napster isn't coming, grudgingly and almost in spite of itself, to pass: broadly, that music with substance can only become more important in a world of "worthless" mass objects. Unfortunately, "substance" is still apparently synonymous with "the potential to cause traffic jams" and the chasm between "talent" and "liquid viability" remains seperated by planets so many light years apart that a dialogue through radio signals is prohibitive.

Thus, the answer to the age old question "what are talent scouts looking for" remains the same: anyone who can earn them bigger purple hats.

And this is why the dinosaurs are extinct.

A good post and a great commentary, Ramona!

That mysterious substance... I gotta smile to the expression 'a little more substance'... This Miss/Mrs Fitzgerald talks about it like a junk food chain owner might talk about a slightly exotic spice... "should we introduce a curry hamburger to address better the consuming needs of this weird new generation that seems to be into ethnic food?"

These A&R people with their 'star-maker' egos will probably be one group of professionals that will find it very hard to recognize the paradigm shift that is happening in the music distribution and in the related businesses. They are the very middleman that P2P threatens to make unnecessary with its new, emerging mechanisms for collecting the attention of the masses and the blessings of it. How can such an arrogant mindset be turned to serve the artists on a much more equal basis and under a much more direct artist-audience interaction? Well, as you said, that's why the dinosaurs are extinct...

- tg

[Ramona_A_Stone]

Yeah, lol, a little more substance. We'll take that with the grain of salt indicated by Mr. Sibley's penetrating prose in the phrase "commercial radio has been reduced to a near monopoly (with) four people who decide what gets played in this country." Perhaps we can get it down to two, and then we can consider it a true democracy.

[nanook]

"Meanwhile, commercial radio has been reduced to a near monopoly, and tremendous influence is required to get a track on the air. Fortunately, labels understand that commercial airplay is nearly impossible for local bands to achieve. Fitzgerald begs artists not to make the mistake of "believing that each radio station writes it's own playlist. Four companies run almost every single major radio station (in the U.S.) That means there are basically four people who decide what gets played in this country."

hey, tg & ramona!


interesting article. and leave it to ramona to pass out the "word" on the street.

i find the article rather vain.
these days artist are taking it upon themselves to "make it".
they put a lot of hard work into putting together their own cd's and making their own videos, to the point that these "agents" can't help but notice them and want a piece of "their" pie.

i find it hard to believe what she says in the above quote.
maybe she is talking about "Top 40" radio. i just don't know.

i live in Canada, but right on the border to Detroit, and i know of lots of local Canadian bands who have been played on these Detroit stations, as well as our local ones. now what they had to do to get there is something i don't know. but i'm sure it wasn't as tough as she makes it out to be.

i notice a lot of radio stations who have "Homegrown" air-time, promoting local talent, in both Detroit & Toronto, two fairly large cities.

ramona, VIDEOFACT, is a site that i thought u might find interesting.

it's a Canadian fund for all Canadian acts. it funds the making of their videos. the catch is they have to do all the hard work themselves.

it's been a great way to see "homegrown" talent. and they play these videos often on MuchMusic, equivalent to MTV.

i always look at to see if the "videofact" phrase is attached to any video i watch.

good to see the RAMONA name again!