Holy Peepers Batman! French Site Fingers File-Sharers! - P2P-Zone

JackSpratts · 18-05-03, 09:30 PM

Mais c’est vrai ca?
Paul Rotello

According to the French Anti-Filesharing group RetSpan (Napster backwards), it’s relatively easy to identify the names of people sharing files on P2P’s without actually resorting to illegal means, like hacking an ISP’s database and other extra legal shortcuts. I mean, if the French can do it, how hard can it be? To prove their point they’ve offered up the identities - and a few details - of some swappers in France and other locations, including America (actually a church in NYC). Being civilized French, though, they’ve tastefully hidden actual names.

As the page is in French, here follows a rough translation.

"Finally, numerous people gave out some doubts on the capacity of RetSpan to identify the internauts who distribute illegally on the P2PS networks of the files submitted to the rights of authors. In answer to these doubts, RetSpan proposes some meaningful examples of internauts identified legally below (and without having raised addresses them IP). The personal data concerning these internauts took like examples have been returned anonymous and are detained by RetSpan under their anonymous shape, in accordance with the recommendations of the CNIL and in order to respect life deprived of the identified internauts. The quoted cases are yet real cases.

[NB: To identify these internauts using the P2PS networks to distribute the pirated files illegally, no tool and no software has been dealt either indirect of his/her/its normal use.]

- F * * * * * F * * * * *: F * * * * * is a young student of 18 years living in Fragnes (street of them TO * * * * *). Thanks to his/her/its access to Internet, F * * * * * downloads and distribute a few hundreds of MP3 files. Mainly the single that are at the head of the sales.

- L * * * * *: this internaut lives in the city of Le Mans, in Sarthe. He/it distributed more than 5000 files pirated at the time of his/her/its identification. About 3 weeks before the exit of the last album of Massive Attack in the stores, L * * * * * to put to disposition of the users of KaZaA the entirety of the album in MP3.

- S * * * * * HS * * * * *: this high school student (resident P street * * * * * in Saint - Mard) likes music, therefore he/it downloads the hit songs of the moment mainly. But he/it also likes the movies. The movies to thick budget Hollywood, as well as of the illegal or forbidden videos to the miners. His/her/its parents probably ignore what is a P2P network and what the teenagers can find there.

- M * * * * * and J * * * * * M * * * * *: since a small office situated to the ground floor of their workplace, the managers of the E hotel * * * * * (hotel situated in border from the peripheral boulevard to Paris, subsidiary of a big group French hotelier) use a computer professionel to download the thousands of music pieces in all kind: jazz, rock, pop, French variety...

- K * * * * *: this internaut works in USA, in the local of the church Saint T * * * * * to New York. Only some files are proposed to the downloading since his/her/its computer, notably several songs of the last album of Nick Cave And the Bad Seeds, that was already distributed since this computer several weeks before the exit of the album in the trade.

- M * * * * * C * * * * *: used of the B group * * * * * C * * * * *, implanted in several score country on the planet, M * * * * * uses the network of the enterprise to download the hundreds of files pirated thanks to KaZaA. In such a case, it is the multinational B * * * * * C * * * * * that risks to have to pay for important damages, because of the machinations of M * * * * *."
http://www.retspan.info/

so who needs those pesky subpoenas anyway?

- js.

napho · 19-05-03, 04:27 AM

It seems to me these anti-piracy companies are just jerking around the content owners. These mild intimidation tactics and revelations might look impressive to the RIAA and MPAA but there's more downloading than ever going on. These guys remind me of lawyers who stretch out all proceedings until the client is drained of his money.

multi · 19-05-03, 05:00 AM

les internauts?
le lol....

Quote:

Anti-Filesharing group RetSpan (Napster backwards)

"shoot 'em in the back,shoot 'em in the back"
they should be called "RutSpin"...

18-05-03, 09:30 PM	#1
JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,017	Holy Peepers Batman! French Site Fingers File-Sharers! Mais c’est vrai ca? Paul Rotello According to the French Anti-Filesharing group RetSpan (Napster backwards), it’s relatively easy to identify the names of people sharing files on P2P’s without actually resorting to illegal means, like hacking an ISP’s database and other extra legal shortcuts. I mean, if the French can do it, how hard can it be? To prove their point they’ve offered up the identities - and a few details - of some swappers in France and other locations, including America (actually a church in NYC). Being civilized French, though, they’ve tastefully hidden actual names. As the page is in French, here follows a rough translation. "Finally, numerous people gave out some doubts on the capacity of RetSpan to identify the internauts who distribute illegally on the P2PS networks of the files submitted to the rights of authors. In answer to these doubts, RetSpan proposes some meaningful examples of internauts identified legally below (and without having raised addresses them IP). The personal data concerning these internauts took like examples have been returned anonymous and are detained by RetSpan under their anonymous shape, in accordance with the recommendations of the CNIL and in order to respect life deprived of the identified internauts. The quoted cases are yet real cases. [NB: To identify these internauts using the P2PS networks to distribute the pirated files illegally, no tool and no software has been dealt either indirect of his/her/its normal use.] - F * * * * * F * * * * : F * * * * is a young student of 18 years living in Fragnes (street of them TO * * * * ). Thanks to his/her/its access to Internet, F * * * * downloads and distribute a few hundreds of MP3 files. Mainly the single that are at the head of the sales. - L * * * * : this internaut lives in the city of Le Mans, in Sarthe. He/it distributed more than 5000 files pirated at the time of his/her/its identification. About 3 weeks before the exit of the last album of Massive Attack in the stores, L * * * * to put to disposition of the users of KaZaA the entirety of the album in MP3. - S * * * * * HS * * * * : this high school student (resident P street * * * * in Saint - Mard) likes music, therefore he/it downloads the hit songs of the moment mainly. But he/it also likes the movies. The movies to thick budget Hollywood, as well as of the illegal or forbidden videos to the miners. His/her/its parents probably ignore what is a P2P network and what the teenagers can find there. - M * * * * * and J * * * * * M * * * * : since a small office situated to the ground floor of their workplace, the managers of the E hotel * * * * (hotel situated in border from the peripheral boulevard to Paris, subsidiary of a big group French hotelier) use a computer professionel to download the thousands of music pieces in all kind: jazz, rock, pop, French variety... - K * * * * : this internaut works in USA, in the local of the church Saint T * * * * to New York. Only some files are proposed to the downloading since his/her/its computer, notably several songs of the last album of Nick Cave And the Bad Seeds, that was already distributed since this computer several weeks before the exit of the album in the trade. - M * * * * * C * * * * : used of the B group * * * * C * * * * , implanted in several score country on the planet, M * * * * uses the network of the enterprise to download the hundreds of files pirated thanks to KaZaA. In such a case, it is the multinational B * * * * * C * * * * * that risks to have to pay for important damages, because of the machinations of M * * * * *." http://www.retspan.info/ so who needs those pesky subpoenas anyway? - js.

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19-05-03, 04:27 AM	#2
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	It seems to me these anti-piracy companies are just jerking around the content owners. These mild intimidation tactics and revelations might look impressive to the RIAA and MPAA but there's more downloading than ever going on. These guys remind me of lawyers who stretch out all proceedings until the client is drained of his money.