Iran: A Bridge too Far?

[multi]

ok I misinterpreted the comma, oops
that makes you oh so much smarter than me.. doesn't it twatface?

suck it up..

how about they have a few scientists over in other places on this planet apart from the US?

maybe if you looked past your precious little nose you could see some facts. These people had vastly richer scientific knowledge for centuries before certain principles were understood and taken up by the west ,they were making calculations when we couldn't even grasp the concept of 'zero' .If not for ideas that came from the east there would be a much different reality than what we have now.

That said... even though the ability to harness atomic power for bombs is a very serious issue for everyone on the planet
It seems it's all been allowed to happen this way.After the powers that be allowed India and Pakistan and especially Israel to start building nuclear arsenals ,it was never going to be long until other nations close by were going to follow suit. Thats the reality people with their heads up their arses like albed just can't seem to see.

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Relax folks ...progress is being made
Progress

[multi]

dads army ?


stats on the foreign fighters found in Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2215380,00.html

The files listed the nationalities and biographical details of more than 700 fighters who crossed into Iraq from August last year, around half of whom came to the country to be suicide bombers, the New York Times reported today.

In all, 305, or 41%, of the fighters listed were from Saudi Arabia. Another 137, or 18%, came from Libya. Both countries are officially US allies in anti-terrorism efforts.

In contrast, 56 Syrians were listed and no Lebanese. Previously, US officials estimated that around a fifth of all foreign fighters in Iraq came from these two countries.

US officials have also long complained about Iranian interference in the affairs of its neighbour, accusing Tehran of shipping weapons for militants over the border. However, any assistance does not appear to extend to people, the paper said, reporting that, of around 25,000 suspected militants in US custody in Iraq, 11 were Iranian. No Iranians were listed among the fighters whose details were found.

The information came from files and computers seized in September when US forces raided a camp in the desert near Sinjar, a small town in north-west Iraq, close to the Syrian border. It was believed the camp was the base for an insurgent cell responsible for smuggling the vast majority of foreign fighters into Iraq.

The files also gave details of 68 Yemeni nationals, the third-biggest source. There were 64 fighters from Algeria, 50 from Morocco, 38 from Tunisia, 14 from Jordan, six from Turkey and two each from Egypt and France.

[albed]

Originally Posted by multi

ok I misinterpreted the comma, oops
that makes you oh so much smarter than me.. doesn't it twatface?

suck it up..

how about they have a few scientists over in other places on this planet apart from the US?

maybe if you looked past your precious little nose you could see some facts. These people had vastly richer scientific knowledge for centuries before certain principles were understood and taken up by the west ,they were making calculations when we couldn't even grasp the concept of 'zero' .If not for ideas that came from the east there would be a much different reality than what we have now.

That said... even though the ability to harness atomic power for bombs is a very serious issue for everyone on the planet
It seems it's all been allowed to happen this way.After the powers that be allowed India and Pakistan and especially Israel to start building nuclear arsenals ,it was never going to be long until other nations close by were going to follow suit. Thats the reality people with their heads up their arses like albed just can't seem to see.

Oh, so you knew long ago that nuclear weapon proliferation would happen if it wasn't stopped. You're such a fucking genius.


And you added a zero along with 'misinterpreting the comma' and you didn't notice that either so that really just makes you dumber than me.

[multi]

well thats just lame... obviously I had just glanced at it when pondering that question,even with all your trumped up wisdom you can't seem to answer because you didn't crop the pic... perhaps Drak did and could explain wtf the competition is about ,maybe where you can win $100.00 by hitting that area just below Yemen with a dart perhaps?

It was just a passing question not even really aimed at you, fucknuts... so if you don't know you may stfu or not it's your choice.

I doubt it really matters that much in the bigger scheme of things.Now back to the scrapbook...



Why the Iranians see themselves in a very different light

AP

IT IS not hard to find examples of the peculiar divergence between how the world looks from Tehran, Iran's capital, and how it looks in the West. Take the recent release of a long-awaited report on Iran's nuclear programme by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN's nuclear watchdog. To Iran's state-controlled television, the report showed Iran's innocence and slapped its detractors in the face. In Washington, DC, the focus was on the report's doubts, which appeared to justify a push for further punitive sanctions.

But in many ways, the sparring capitals look more like mirror images than polar opposites. On different scales, both Iranians and Americans tend to take an imperial view. Both governments demonise the other. They use past resentments to reap political rewards by looking tough.
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[multi]

Bush: But this — we got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I’ve told people that if you’re interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon…

This NIE was apparently finished a year ago, and its basic parameters were almost certainly common knowledge in the White House well before that. This means that all the leaks, all the World War III stuff, all the blustering about the IAEA — all of it was approved for public consumption after Cheney/Bush/Rice/etc. knew perfectly well it was mostly baseless.

Nothing smells better in the morning to the Neocons than war propaganda. That’s why Cheney tried to hold up the report from coming out.

A National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran has been held up for more than a year in an effort to force the intelligence community to remove dissenting judgments on the Iranian nuclear programme, and thus make the document more supportive of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney’s militarily aggressive policy toward Iran, according to accounts of the process provided by participants to two former Central Intelligence Agency officers.

via Amanda: “As ThinkProgress has documented, the White House’s manipulation of the Iran NIE bore a striking resemblance to the controversies that played out over pre-war Iraq intelligence.” ...more

[theknife]

Originally Posted by multi

This NIE was apparently finished a year ago, and its basic parameters were almost certainly common knowledge in the White House well before that. This means that all the leaks, all the World War III stuff, all the blustering about the IAEA — all of it was approved for public consumption after Cheney/Bush/Rice/etc. knew perfectly well it was mostly baseless.

Nothing smells better in the morning to the Neocons than war propaganda. That’s why Cheney tried to hold up the report from coming out.

A National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran has been held up for more than a year in an effort to force the intelligence community to remove dissenting judgments on the Iranian nuclear programme, and thus make the document more supportive of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney’s militarily go aggressive policy toward Iran, according to accounts of the process provided by participants to two former Central Intelligence Agency officers.

via Amanda: “As ThinkProgress has documented, the White House’s manipulation of the Iran NIE bore a striking resemblance to the controversies that played out over pre-war Iraq intelligence.” ...more

go figure. it's amazing anybody takes the Bush administration seriously about anything when they've been wrong about, well, pretty much everything.

[JackSpratts]

Originally Posted by theknife

go figure. it's amazing anybody takes the Bush administration seriously about anything when they've been wrong about, well, pretty much everything.

and that's putting it diplomatically. deliberately deceptive is more like it.

- js.

[theknife]

from the Time blog, an apt quote:

The real story behind this NIE is that the Bush Administration has finally concluded Iran is a bridge too far.