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11-05-05, 09:53 PM | #1 | |||
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the Downing St. memos
the Downing St. memo just confirms what most of us already knew, even though some of us will never admit it:
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so any way you look at it the case for invading Iiraq was rigged. Quote:
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Saddam refused to comply with UN mandates or his surrender terms from 1991. |
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~ Aluminum artillery tubes misdiagnosed as nuclear related; ~ Forgeries alleging Iraqi attempts to obtain uranium in Africa; ~ Tall tales from a drunken defector about mobile biological weapons laboratories; ~ Bogus warnings that Iraqi forces could fire WMD-tipped missiles within 45 minutes of an order to do so; ~ Dodgy dossiers fabricated in London; and ~ A U.S. National Intelligence Estimate thrown in for good measure. all of it bogus and he knew it. not as juicy as a blow job in the oval office but twice as illegal and 10 times more immoral. run along now -- the flock is calling you. |
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12-05-05, 08:18 PM | #5 | |
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You make it sound like lying politicians are a new trend that needs to be stopped before it beocmes too prevalent. You make it sound like perjury in federal court, leaking classified documents, and trashing people's reputations is somehow morally superior to making war on false pretenses. Beleive me, if Bush was using policy to guide his military decisions he learned that trick from Clinton whose actions in Somalia, the Balkans, Sudan, and Iraq sacrificed thousands of people for the sake of boosting his public approval rating. The president shouldn't have to lie to people to get them to do the right thing. The legitimate reasons for the war in Iraq are far better than the ones these memos allude to. |
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-Providing misinformation to the United Nations Security Council, Congress, and the American people overstating the offensive capabilities of Iraq, including weapons of mass destruction, as justification for military action against Iraq. -Repeatedly manipulating the sentiments of the American people by erroneously linking Iraq with the terrorist attacks of September 11th by Al-Qaeda. -Repeatedly claiming that satellite photos of sites in Iraq depicted factories for weapons of mass destruction in contradiction with the results of ground inspections by United Nations teams. -Providing the International Atomic Energy Commission with forged documents describing the sale of uranium to Iraq by Niger, and referring to that sale in the State of the Union Address after being told by the CIA that the documents were forged. |
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13-05-05, 06:15 AM | #7 | |
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I think it's beginning to effect your judgement. You seem to be getting more and more confused. Breaking UN mandates is not a reason for war. If that was the case we would have invaded Israel years ago. Now be a good boy,stop making a noise and go to sleep now.
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13-05-05, 01:54 PM | #8 |
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I guess following me around and trolling is better than spreading terrorist propaganda.
You must really miss masturbating though. Try learning instead. Start with the Korean War. |
13-05-05, 04:35 PM | #9 |
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"Take Action"
Sure, just let me put some finishing touches on my time machine and we'll go back and stop the war from happening. But if anyone has any reasonable suggestions for "action" I'm willing to hear them. Other than signing petitions and complaining loudly, what are we hoping to accomplish here? |
13-05-05, 06:18 PM | #11 | |
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The P+++++T ACT has made many of my suggestions questionable/illegal.
Our current two party system needs to be purged of everyone somehow(legally). We need to convince the rest of the Ameicans about this. It starts at home. I consider this place my home on the internet. Quote:
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13-05-05, 08:19 PM | #12 | |
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how about some accountability? if the Downing St. memo is accurate (and the British government says it is), then we have a president who took us to war under false pretenses with fake documents and bogus evidence, misused the intelligence, repeatedly lied about his intentions, grossly underestimated the cost, miscalculated the opposition, and completely failed to plan for the aftermath of the invasion - all of this at a cost of thousands of US casualties and billions of dollars. should there be no accountability for the gross incompetence (at least), if not dishonesty, of your leaders? how many US soldiers have to get killed for this lie (about 1600 so far - that's one thousand and six hundred Americans, kids most of them) before otherwise decent people like yourself say "enough"? the cost is going to top $500 billion by 2010 (that's half a trillion dollars) - money incompetently committed under false pretenses....do you really think no one should ask how "how the f@$k did we did get here?" specifically, the entire iraq fiasco should be publicly dissected and investigated with a fine-tooth comb, if for no other reason than to ensure that it never happens again like this. and if there are impeachable offenses here, then so be it. |
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13-05-05, 11:41 PM | #13 |
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Well alright, site the law he broke and I'll get on the impeach Bush campaign with you. But you have to convince me that Bush had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to do such a thing. You probably already have answers for what he did and how he did it, but can you answer why? Bush didn't need to lie to get us into this war, so why would he want to?
All joking aside, there would be a solid case against the president if there were more evidence than one suspiciously leaked memo from a foreign intelligence agency. Given this administration's mountains of deniability I doubt you'll get any resolution that you'll be satisfied enough to call 'accountability.' Sorry to disappoint you. |
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Don't be frightend now,nasty man won't hurt you. "miss masturbating" Where is she? Is she a troller too? "Start with the Korean War" I'll have a read up,I was too young at that time. Did you win that one all on your own?
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16-05-05, 05:03 AM | #15 | |
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How we got f#$cked by our leaders, from today's NYT:
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the recruiting problem mentioned above is particularly telling: last month's recruitment goals were missed by 40%. so how come all the chickenhawks, like Rush Limbaugh & Hannity aren't out there asking people to enlist? how come you never hear the prez, the VP, or Rumsfeld trying to pump up the public to sign themselves or their kids up for this war? it's because they can no longer give out the "fighting in Iraq for our freedom" spiel without looking like fricking idiots, and they know it. they don't want to call attention to the fact that Iraq is a one-way to ticket to hell and they helped create it. |
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16-05-05, 02:12 PM | #16 | |
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howard was there during 911 i have believed since then he has known full well about the whole charade.. now this whole shady business is coming out into the open...i wonder how they will sidetrack the issue over here.. US ,UK &AUS are up to their armpits in the BS they have created to justify their war for terror the arabs think flushing of korans happen on a daily basis now.. |
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In their upcoming Monday edition (dated 5/23), Newsweek now says they can not verify their story that there were incidents of "Qur'an desecration" at Guantanamo. Those charges were the apparent cause of riots in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Indonesia that left dozens dead and many more injured in the past week. http://www.legendgames.net/showstory.../WN0000145.txt |
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17-05-05, 06:47 AM | #18 |
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"nothing like a terror event and a new war to keep our sleepy sheep in the dark"
What a wonderful way to put things. I think to goes to the heart of the problem we all face. Getting a different view out to people. Then again you can lead sheep to water,can't make them drink. Then again if they're week,they're easier to fleece.
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One more time malvo cut thru the chit.
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