The differences between male and female songwriters - P2P-Zone

napho · 11-12-01, 04:20 PM

I only notice the obvious.
Guys talking about getting laid and women talking "relationships".

Dawn · 11-12-01, 04:31 PM

Most of my favorite singers are female. I can't give you a definite reason why, because I don't really know. But anytime I think about a really good song, most of the time, it's a female doing the singing.

Shani · 12-12-01, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by napho
I only notice the obvious.
Guys talking about getting laid and women talking "relationships".

hehe... what music are you listening to

nah, ive heard men songwriters sing about relationships... i think...

napho · 12-12-01, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shani

hehe... what music are you listening to nah, ive heard men songwriters sing about relationships... i think...

I guess I listen to too much rap.

Their relationships usually involve me myself and I.

Dawn · 12-12-01, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by napho

I guess I listen to too much rap.

nanook · 14-12-01, 10:47 PM

i like female singer/songwriters, but i really do prefer songs by males. i'm a drums/bass kinda girl and the guys, by far, do more of that......although i know of a few good females.

reasons: i've stated before that i prefer the music, before the lyrics. hence, enjoying music, whose language i may not understand. but, i do like lyrics, but have to like the music before i'll even listen to the lyrics. but if gals would think about it, u can get a lot of info from lyrics by guys..........u can get inside their heads one way or another. it helps me understand a bit. i know, half of it's bullshit and like u say, napho, me myself and i, shit.

i just luv music.

check out: SHAKIRA, "suerta....Whenever, Whatever" and tell me u need to understand what she's saying.

u can get it in english if u wish.

and napho...........u'd enjoy her video!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ramona_A_Stone · 15-12-01, 01:53 PM

Finally I think it's really hard to seperate "getting laid" from "relationships." The first thing this made me think of is a sample of a voice (a woman) on Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen album, which says "Rock and roll is about fucking." Some people say fucking and getting laid and they really mean relationships, some people say relationships and they really mean fucking and getting laid.

Anyway, here's a little exercise in antithesis, for what it's worth:

"...I wanna smash the faces of those beautiful boys, those Christian boys.
So you can make me cum, that doesn't make you Jesus...

...Those demigods,
With their nine-inch nails, and little fascist panties,
Tucked inside the heart of every nice girl...

--Precious Things

Look I'm standing naked before you; don't you want more than my sex?
I can scream as loud as your last one, but I can't claim innocence.
Oh, God, could it be the weather? Oh, God, why am I here?
If love isn't forever and it's not the weather, hand me my leather...

--Leather

...Mother Mary, china white.
Brown may be sweeter.
She will supply, she will supply, she will supply, supply, supply.
Give me peace, love, peace, love.
Give me peace, love and a hard cock.

--Professional Widow

And this little masochist is lifting up her dress...

--Hey Jupiter

...Got an angry snatch, girls you know what I mean,
When swivelin' that hip doesn't do the trick.
Me, I pureed sanitarily, Mister Sulu- a warp speed, a warp speed...

--In The Springtime of His Voodoo

...I am not your señorita. I am not from your tribe.
If you want inside her, well, boy you better make her raspberry swirl...

--Raspberry Swirl

...Uh. She's your cocaine. She's got you shaving your legs.
You can suck anything but you know you wanna be me.
Said put on your makeup, boy, you're your favorite stranger.
And we've all like to watch, so shimmy once and do it again.
Bring your sister, bring your sister if you can't handle it...

--She's Your Cocaine"

Ok, those were all Tori Amos. She's a girl. (be glad I didn't go for Patti Smith)

"...Love, I don't like to see so much pain
So much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away
I get so tired of working so hard for our survival
I look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive...

--In Your Eyes

...What I carry in my heart
Brings us so close or so far apart
Only love can make love
I want you close I want you near
I can't help but listen
But I don't want to hear
I hear that voice again...

--That Voice Again

...Please talk to me
Won't you please talk to me
We can unlock this misery
Come on, come talk to me
I did not come to steal
This all is so unreal
Can't you show me how you feel now
Come on, come talk to me
Come talk to me
I can imagine the moment
Breaking out through the silence
All the things that we both might say
And the heart it will not be denied
'Til we're both on the same damn side
All the barriers blown away...

--Come Talk To Me

...And in this moment, I need to be needed
With this darkness all around me, I like to be liked
In this emptiness and fear, I want to be wanted
'Cause I love to be loved
I love to be loved
Yes, I love to be loved
I cry the way that babies cry
The way they can't deny
The way they feel
Words, they climb all over you
'Til they uncover you
From where you hide...

--Love To Be Loved

...At my request, you take me in
In that tenderness, I am floating away
No certainty, nothing to rely on
Holding still for a moment
What a moment this is
Oh for a moment of forgetting, a moment of bliss
In the blood of Eden
Lie the woman and the man
With the man in the woman
And the woman in the man
In the blood of Eden
We wanted the union
Of the woman and the man...

--Blood Of Eden

...So I watch you wash your hair
Underwater, unaware
And the plane flies through the air
Did you think you didn't have to choose it
That I alone could win or lose it
In all the places we were hiding love
What was it we were thinking of?

--Secret World"

Ok, those were all Peter Gabriel. He has a penis.

Now, what were we talking about?

TankGirl · 15-12-01, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramona_A_Stone
(be glad I didn't go for Patti Smith)

Oh please please do...

- tg

TankGirl · 15-12-01, 08:15 PM

Ok, here we go... Patti Smith on He and She...

[COLOR=sea-green]
she is benediction
she is addicted to thee
she is the root connection
she is connecting with he

here I go and I don't know why
I fell so ceaselessly
could it be he's taking over me...

I'm dancing barefoot
heading for a spin
some strange music draws me in
makes me come on like some heroin/e

she is sublimation
she is the essence of thee
she is concentrating on
he, who is chosen by she

here I go and I don't know why
I spin so ceaselessly,
could it be he's taking over me...

[chorus]

she is re-creation
she, intoxicated by thee
she has the slow sensation that
he is levitating with she ...

here I go and I don't know why,
I spin so ceaselessly,
'til I lose my sense of gravity...

[chorus]

(oh god I fell for you ...)

the plot of our life sweats in the dark like a face
the mystery of childbirth, of childhood itself
grave visitations
what is it that calls to us?
why must we pray screaming?
why must not death be redefined?
we shut our eyes we stretch out our arms
and whirl on a pane of glass
an afixiation a fix on anything the line of life the limb of a tree
the hands of he and the promise that s/he is blessed among women.

(oh god I fell for you ...)

Patti Smith - Dancing Barefoot

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greedy_lars · 18-12-01, 09:25 PM

one pees standing up, the other pees sitting down?

11-12-01, 04:20 PM	#1
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	The differences between male and female songwriters I only notice the obvious. Guys talking about getting laid and women talking "relationships".

11-12-01, 04:31 PM	#2
Dawn R.I.P napho 1-31-16 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Venus Posts: 16,723	Most of my favorite singers are female. I can't give you a definite reason why, because I don't really know. But anytime I think about a really good song, most of the time, it's a female doing the singing. __________________ I love you napho and I will weep forever..........

14-12-01, 10:47 PM	#6
nanook just one of the gang... Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 1,777	i like female singer/songwriters, but i really do prefer songs by males. i'm a drums/bass kinda girl and the guys, by far, do more of that......although i know of a few good females. reasons: i've stated before that i prefer the music, before the lyrics. hence, enjoying music, whose language i may not understand. but, i do like lyrics, but have to like the music before i'll even listen to the lyrics. but if gals would think about it, u can get a lot of info from lyrics by guys..........u can get inside their heads one way or another. it helps me understand a bit. i know, half of it's bullshit and like u say, napho, me myself and i, shit. i just luv music. check out: SHAKIRA, "suerta....Whenever, Whatever" and tell me u need to understand what she's saying. u can get it in english if u wish. and napho...........u'd enjoy her video!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ "rock on, all"

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15-12-01, 01:53 PM	#7
Ramona_A_Stone Formal Ball Proof Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 2,948	Finally I think it's really hard to seperate "getting laid" from "relationships." The first thing this made me think of is a sample of a voice (a woman) on Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen album, which says "Rock and roll is about fucking." Some people say fucking and getting laid and they really mean relationships, some people say relationships and they really mean fucking and getting laid. Anyway, here's a little exercise in antithesis, for what it's worth: "...I wanna smash the faces of those beautiful boys, those Christian boys. So you can make me cum, that doesn't make you Jesus... ...Those demigods, With their nine-inch nails, and little fascist panties, Tucked inside the heart of every nice girl... --Precious Things Look I'm standing naked before you; don't you want more than my sex? I can scream as loud as your last one, but I can't claim innocence. Oh, God, could it be the weather? Oh, God, why am I here? If love isn't forever and it's not the weather, hand me my leather... --Leather ...Mother Mary, china white. Brown may be sweeter. She will supply, she will supply, she will supply, supply, supply. Give me peace, love, peace, love. Give me peace, love and a hard cock. --Professional Widow And this little masochist is lifting up her dress... --Hey Jupiter ...Got an angry snatch, girls you know what I mean, When swivelin' that hip doesn't do the trick. Me, I pureed sanitarily, Mister Sulu- a warp speed, a warp speed... --In The Springtime of His Voodoo ...I am not your señorita. I am not from your tribe. If you want inside her, well, boy you better make her raspberry swirl... --Raspberry Swirl ...Uh. She's your cocaine. She's got you shaving your legs. You can suck anything but you know you wanna be me. Said put on your makeup, boy, you're your favorite stranger. And we've all like to watch, so shimmy once and do it again. Bring your sister, bring your sister if you can't handle it... --She's Your Cocaine" Ok, those were all Tori Amos. She's a girl. (be glad I didn't go for Patti Smith) "...Love, I don't like to see so much pain So much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away I get so tired of working so hard for our survival I look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive... --In Your Eyes ...What I carry in my heart Brings us so close or so far apart Only love can make love I want you close I want you near I can't help but listen But I don't want to hear I hear that voice again... --That Voice Again ...Please talk to me Won't you please talk to me We can unlock this misery Come on, come talk to me I did not come to steal This all is so unreal Can't you show me how you feel now Come on, come talk to me Come talk to me I can imagine the moment Breaking out through the silence All the things that we both might say And the heart it will not be denied 'Til we're both on the same damn side All the barriers blown away... --Come Talk To Me ...And in this moment, I need to be needed With this darkness all around me, I like to be liked In this emptiness and fear, I want to be wanted 'Cause I love to be loved I love to be loved Yes, I love to be loved I cry the way that babies cry The way they can't deny The way they feel Words, they climb all over you 'Til they uncover you From where you hide... --Love To Be Loved ...At my request, you take me in In that tenderness, I am floating away No certainty, nothing to rely on Holding still for a moment What a moment this is Oh for a moment of forgetting, a moment of bliss In the blood of Eden Lie the woman and the man With the man in the woman And the woman in the man In the blood of Eden We wanted the union Of the woman and the man... --Blood Of Eden ...So I watch you wash your hair Underwater, unaware And the plane flies through the air Did you think you didn't have to choose it That I alone could win or lose it In all the places we were hiding love What was it we were thinking of? --Secret World" Ok, those were all Peter Gabriel. He has a penis. Now, what were we talking about?

15-12-01, 08:15 PM	#9
TankGirl Madame Comrade Join Date: May 2000 Location: Area 25 Posts: 5,587	Ok, here we go... Patti Smith on He and She... [COLOR=sea-green] she is benediction she is addicted to thee she is the root connection she is connecting with he here I go and I don't know why I fell so ceaselessly could it be he's taking over me... I'm dancing barefoot heading for a spin some strange music draws me in makes me come on like some heroin/e she is sublimation she is the essence of thee she is concentrating on he, who is chosen by she here I go and I don't know why I spin so ceaselessly, could it be he's taking over me... [chorus] she is re-creation she, intoxicated by thee she has the slow sensation that he is levitating with she ... here I go and I don't know why, I spin so ceaselessly, 'til I lose my sense of gravity... [chorus] (oh god I fell for you ...) the plot of our life sweats in the dark like a face the mystery of childbirth, of childhood itself grave visitations what is it that calls to us? why must we pray screaming? why must not death be redefined? we shut our eyes we stretch out our arms and whirl on a pane of glass an afixiation a fix on anything the line of life the limb of a tree the hands of he and the promise that s/he is blessed among women. (oh god I fell for you ...) Patti Smith - Dancing Barefoot [/color]

18-12-01, 09:25 PM	#10
greedy_lars everything you do Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: wlll come back around to you Posts: 3,982	one pees standing up, the other pees sitting down?