A plan to revive old Morpheus 1.3.3 and avoid KaZaA's "Upgrade Morpheus" trick

[butterfly_kisses]

Hi guys/grrlz I just had an idea...it may just have been a brain fart I will leave it to my very nimble and adept associates to decide whether or not it indeed is an idea or not.

First off some background please look at this link by Indiana on another board http://pub45.ezboard.com/fmorpheusfr...picID=30.topic

And then there was one more idea...but I seem to have now forgotten what it was :\ sad i know so the rest of this will basically be my "rant" so to speak.

Okay here is the deal with me. I am not a programmer but I have what I would say is a "keen" mind (your opinion of this may vary) and I have found that sometimes in my life there are problems or complexities that totally beleaguer me and my puny wit just cannot fully grasp the concept of something then at a certain time however sometimes much later I soon achieve Nerdvana in that I can now understand or grasp a formerly unfamiliar concept.

with that said I must make mention that currently I am not a programmer but due to my interest in this puzzle piece that I call KaZaa I am doing my best to learn as I go and probe deeper into the mysteries of this "proof of concept" application. Speaking plainly my love of a mystery prompts me to investigate it and therefore I want to learn what makes this program tick.

Indiana Jones has offered some good clues in the form of the registry entries and values and I myself have seen this "magic" four digit number changed when connecting to a certain ip address which I have recorded elsewhere. It is one of the servers ran and owned at least it was registered Niklas Zennstrom when I did a whois inquiry....now get this I tried Indie's reg trick on an old morpheus 1.33 client that didn't have the bde installer wrapped around it...and Using my dial-up connection ( i think it's important to note my connection type as somehow the fasttrack clients are able to determine your bandwidth in the regulation of who becomes and ultrapeer/supernode) and my Ulitimate firewall (or at least it used to be Windows Nt breaks the logging function in it) Atguard 3.22 I was able to keep a list of all the connections and attempted connects by the morpheus 1.33 client (using the reghack posted on VLaibb's site (ran by Indy I believe) and I was able to record the exact Ip address that cause the message "Your client is too old to connect and needs to upgrade"

I will post this ip if you are interested but I do not support the idea of DDos'ing this ip address as that would be wrong and there are better ways to get around this by working with the program code to find the upgrade mechanism's on/off switch and either yank it out or permanently turn it to the off position.

I'm trying not to post to much in one posting....forgive me and bear with me please.

Basically the point of this post is that There is a supernode controlled by KaZaA that gives the notice. Also this is done in realtime meaning I was viewing the key in regedit at the time of the connection to the ipaddress that caused the value in the registry to modified...

Now my question to the board is this: Are there any freeware or shareware applications that can Protect your registry or lock it from real time modifications (not accesses such as read functions but write functions only?)

I hope this information is useful.

-Harbynger

[thegame412]

I am unable to currently export the grokster registry becaue I'm not home. I will do it once I get home.

[Spikologia]

indiana jones - Thanks for you reg file, but it didn't work... Guess something is still missing...

thegame412 - ok, thanks. And please tell me if you're having any troubles. It is very interesting if Grokster 1.3.3 can still connect to FastTrack!

[butterfly_kisses]

http://www.angelfire.com/super2/kazaa/index2.html

[thegame412]

http://www.geocities.com/junistar69/Groksterregkey.zip Spikologia, If you don't get the message saying that your version of grokster is too old to connect to the network. Please download updated version from www.grokster.com, then it should eventually connect. I too first had just five user online when connected on several occasions. I gave it a few minutes and then it read 1 millon users online. So if you say that it says 5 users online, just give it time and the number will increase.

[colinmacc]

...is a FastTrack network built by the Users and for the Users.

I think it's great that there's alot of other people who feel the same way. I guess this was the sort of thinking that spawned the GiFT project.

Anyway, keep up the positive thought, this has been a most interesting and enjoyable thread, and anything that attempts to thwart the evil schemes of Sharman/Kazaa/Brilliant Digital is worth trying for.

[butterfly_kisses]

Hi all I found this link to the Developer's forum for KaZaA lite on another fan site for the program. Here is the link:

http://kazaalite.lunarpages.com/cgi-...DaysPrune=1000

If i have to jump up and down like that guy (the Vp of Microsoft) to get the attention of you developers out there...i will

(jumps around like a monkey flailing arms wildy while screaming
DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS!

This is what we need...

On a side note I've been in contact with one of the programmer's

for the original KaZaA and he said I should talk to either Janus

or Niklas about the KaZaA Media Libs but Niklas and Janus

are not interested in giving away the source code they did tell

me they would sell it to me and were very pleasant until they

found out I had no money or at least not the kind of money they

were talking about : )

After that all communications with them ceased...kind of like my

landlady for Five years she was so nice...then you get laid off

can't pay your bills and all that changes...

Well enough about me...things are better now (that was a while back...but its a story for another time some place else)

Peace and Love all.

Keep on cracking : )

[greedy_lars]

why bother, morpheus has gone the way of napster, so well. it was good while it lasted. but so was scour back in the day.

kazza works fine. next it will be something else.

and the beat goes on...

[butterfly_kisses]

originally Greedy I was not going to answer your question...then in poking around my old cd collection I found this exact same subject being discussed on the Morpheus forums (some of which I have archived) and decided it would now be appropriate to answer you with a quote by Indiana Jones from the old Morpheus forums as it pretty much sums up my feelings as well (for the most part)

Without furthur adue:

Re: what's the point?
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i just find the idea fascinating, that there could be e second FT net, which couldn't be forced to be updated or shut down by any master server(s) - like it happened just recently - simply because it doesn't connect anymore to this Master server(s)

what i watched: a startup i.e. morpheus tries to connect to MC server to logon - if it were successful it got a list of supernodes and started to connect - if not (like now) - it startes to connect to a supernode, stored in the registry (Connectioninfo). therefore you just need supernodes which are connected to each other and a list of them for each user and you can keep up your Master independent FT net, which is surely not so easy to control or to monitor like the one, which always is somehow connected to a Master.

its just an idea to play with it.
indy

---Originally posted to the messageboards on Musiccity

hope that answer will suffice

[butterfly_kisses]

I hope this doesn't make too big of a mess but here is that whole post in its entirety that I had saved to a cd someplace...

hope this is helpful to the discussion:



Because this is a free service pop up ads will appear. I suggest using a popup killer. Morpheus
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IndianaJonesAIBB
Registered User
Posts: 34
(2/27/02 8:22:30 pm)
Reply registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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hi i found a registry edit which worked for my much to old 1.3.3

i replaced a 0d (red)
[b]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Morpheus]
"FirewallStatus"=dword:55555555
"network_config"=hex:00,00,00,0D,00,00,00,00,3a,4b,61,5a,61, 41,00,43,6f .....

by a 05 (yellow)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Morpheus]
"FirewallStatus"=dword:55555555
"network_config"=hex:00,00,00,05,00,00,00,00,3a,4b,61,5a,61, 41,00,43,6f .....

and it stopped saying its to old and connected after a while

afterwards it replaced the 05 by 18
but it reconnects after restart
indy




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File: surprise.mp3
Length:5845871Bytes
UUHash:=1LDYkHDl65OprVz37xN1VSo9b00=
Copy the lines above and use the 'Paste from Clipboard' function of sig2dat 3.0.a to create a startfile for your FastTrack p2p client for safe download!

djakrse
Registered User
Posts: 24
(2/27/02 9:45:11 pm)
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Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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good deal, Indy..
i had 13 where you had 0d, but puting 05 in its place stopped morpheus from throwing up the message box telling me to update morpheus. no idea what the dif is, but who am i to argue.

btw, kazaa has 11 in that 4th slot.. all the other numbers are the same.
...and i just noticed that kazaa 1.5 has an entry for CloudLoad in the registry.

I imagine this new cloudload must be the "technology" which morpheus was incompatible with. and i assume grokster 1.5 must have this feature too since it isnt supposed to have problems right now.

djakrse
Registered User
Posts: 25
(2/27/02 10:19:14 pm)
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Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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questions for those who know or can find out about these settings:

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"IndianaJonesAIBB said:
afterwards it replaced the 05 by 18"
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when kazaa and morpheus connected as i was checking the options, it changed the aforementioned 4th number to 18 (from 11 for me)
-- Does this mean that this number is determined by the fasttrack login server when you connect? im aware these clients supposedly dont have to login to connect to the network.. it happens when you get username@???.. but does that have something to do with why the network wasnt working for morpheus?

comparing kazaa 1.5 and morpheus 1.3.3:

i found that one setting in registry (Win9x only)..

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Morpheus\UserDetails]
"PromptBeforeInstalling"=dword:00000001

.. which implies 2 dif things in User tab Options:

"Notify me when new updates are available" - Morpheus
"Notify before installing automatic updates" - KaZaA

..hmmm.

also while comparing kazaa with morpheus in the registry..

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Kazaa\Settings]
"UseCount"=dword:00000000
"Date"="02-15-2002"
"WarnShare"=dword:00000001

where as morpheus only has:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Morpheus\Settings]
"WarnShare"=dword:00000001

1) what's up with "WarnShare" could that be an upcoming feature?
2) "UseCount" sounds like a way to tell how many times you have used morpheus/kazaa or dloaded a file.. times $$ per file = monthly bill?
3) "Date" ..what is that? related to future features mebbe.

not sure im liking the looks of that

IndianaJonesAIBB
Registered User
Posts: 35
(2/27/02 10:32:33 pm)
Reply Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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last time i heard a bout cloudload befor meopheus forum wennt down.
it was a business plan to sell users disk space an bandwidth to companies which offer huge data for download but suffer from high bandwidth cost.
they should then only have to offer some p2p client and the download in fact should take place from a 'cloud' p2p users.
the data should be "forced" placed on all high powered high bandwidth computers. there was a short discussion then the board was killed.
i dont know more about the regs here.
just the Connectioninfo contains IPs of supernodes , the client troes to connect to if it cannot connect to music city
supersupernode
indy

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File: surprise.mp3
Length:5845871Bytes
UUHash:=1LDYkHDl65OprVz37xN1VSo9b00=
Copy the lines above and use the 'Paste from Clipboard' function of sig2dat 3.0.a to create a startfile for your FastTrack p2p client for safe download!

BuzzB2K
Registered User
Posts: 31
(2/27/02 11:27:52 pm)
Reply Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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Hey guys
I am sure you have noticed some users who say either they don't get the "too old" message or have no trouble connecting.

My Morpheus never gave me the "too old" message, and after I looked in the registry I found that there was allready an 18 in the fourth position...

So it looks like you are on to something there...


Buzz
I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not sure

IndianaJonesAIBB
Registered User
Posts: 36
(2/28/02 12:57:37 am)
Reply Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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hey buzz - since you run grokster 1.5 too - could you try to use grokster 1.5 network_config for morph or post it here?

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File: surprise.mp3
Length:5845871Bytes
UUHash:=1LDYkHDl65OprVz37xN1VSo9b00=
Copy the lines above and use the 'Paste from Clipboard' function of sig2dat 3.0.a to create a startfile for your FastTrack p2p client for safe download!

BuzzB2K
Registered User
Posts: 32
(2/28/02 7:23:59 am)
Reply Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Grokster]
"network_config"=hex:00,00,00,19,00,00,00,00,3a,4b,61,5a,61, 41,00,43,6f,6e,6e,\
65,63,74,65,64,4e,65,74,77,6f,72,6b,73,3a,47,72,6f,6b,73,74, 65,72,20,66,69,\
6c,65,73,68,61,72,65,20,4d,75,73,69,63,43,69,74,79,00,00,00, 00,00,3a,47,72,\
6f,6b,73,74,65,72,00,43,6f,6e,6e,65,63,74,65,64,4e,65,74,77, 6f,72,6b,73,3a,\
4b,61,5a,61,41,20,66,69,6c,65,73,68,61,72,65,20,4d,75,73,69, 63,43,69,74,79,\
00,00,00,00,00,3a,66,69,6c,65,73,68,61,72,65,00,43,6f,6e,6e, 65,63,74,65,64,\
4e,65,74,77,6f,72,6b,73,3a,4b,61,5a,61,41,20,47,72,6f,6b,73, 74,65,72,20,4d,\
75,73,69,63,43,69,74,79,00,00,00,00,00,3a,4d,75,73,69,63,43, 69,74,79,00,43,\
6f,6e,6e,65,63,74,65,64,4e,65,74,77,6f,72,6b,73,3a,4b,61,5a, 61,41,20,66,69,\
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55,72,6c,4d,61,73,6b,3a,35,00,42,72,6f,61,64,63,61,73,74,53, 74,61,74,73,43,\
6f,6e,74,72,6f,6c,4e,6f,64,65,73,3a,31,35,32,2e,37,2e,32,34, 2e,31,30,31,3a,\
31,32,31,34,20,32,31,32,2e,31,37,39,2e,33,35,2e,31,31,38,3a, 31,32,31,34,20,\
31,32,38,2e,31,36,33,2e,36,31,2e,32,30,33,3a,31,32,31,34,20, 32,34,2e,35,31,\
2e,38,32,2e,31,31,33,3a,31,32,31,34,00,2f,98,24,ae,c5,46,72, 7f,48,75,25,d4,\
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f8,fb,21,d6,dc,4c,e0,cd,94,6d,de,28,c7,d4,c9,de,45,04,67,49, 02,05,de,17,bd,\
08,ba,23,52,9a,a1,ee,fe,0f,20,a4,06,29,3e,fc,e7,59,11,07,fd, e8,23,a3,5b,32,\
58,37,d7,2f,ef,80,aa,ec,fc,47,21,11,89,b5,b0,aa,84,5e,2f,36, c7,a0,f8,a9,72,\
24,0e,be,a5,84,d7,d0,13,5f,8a,6c,3f,d9,f2,26,49,2e,c0,f8,7f, ef,ee,0a,0d,40,\
b1,b7,00,9d,db,67,95,ba,df,12,8d,50,54,98,02,66,4a,5d,84,07, 43,ce,76,17,9c,\
9f,6e,3d,3a,52,f1,6e,d6,4f,c6,19,98,0d,68,89,b3,9b,9b,20,7f, ba,2b,ee,3b,9f,\
c4,e0,a5,b6,a9,de,d3,20,8e,c7,f5,46,9d,7c,e8,99,b7,32,46,db, 89,8a,df,f9,24,\
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53,69,67,6e,61,74,75,72,65,3e


:smokin Buzz

I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not sure

teambilly
Registered User
Posts: 3
(3/4/02 4:21:50 am)
Reply Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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hey, i tried this reg edit, and it works, but i am only showing 98 users online, and after a few disconnect/reconnect it doesnt seem to get much higher..

3/6/02 - better now, i've got 30,000 users online now.. getting better search results and downloads...


Edited by: teambilly at: 3/6/02 6:32:21 pm

BuzzB2K
Registered User
Posts: 52
(3/4/02 7:01:25 am)
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Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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You need to give up on the old Morpheus and install Grokster like most of us are doing...

Quote:
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Grokster without Spyware (With Pictures!!)
posted by wiggum on March 03, 2002 @ 07:32am
With Morpheus no longer connecting to Fasttrack many people having been thinking about converting to another fasttrack client. Grokster connects to Fasttrack but has spyware installed with it. Running Ad-ware in the usual way after installing Grokster will not let most people run Grokster. Project Insomnia have published a way of getting around this: follow their steps here to run Grokster without Cydoor Spyware. Installing Grokster without spyware
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Buzz
I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not sure

Edited by: BuzzB2K at: 3/4/02 7:03:28 am

IndianaJonesAIBB
Registered User
Posts: 38
(3/6/02 7:53:13 pm)
Reply Re: registry edit for morpheus 1.3.3 reconnect
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3/6/02 30000 sharing 17TB
its interesting that @fileshare users seemlingly can connect to both nets.
morpheus and grokster are completely separated through the different registry entries - that morph has to be deinstalled to run grokster is simply a lie from grokster to eliminate morpheus. i have the exe's in the same folder and they use the same shared folder - they just cannot run at the same time. i just think its fine that the net can be kept up without control to MC's central servers. - its just how the linux kazaa works, you need the ips of a 1.3.3 supernode and you get further ips. i think linus people could connect to this independent 1.3.3 net with their old kazaa clients.
is there any linux forum out there?

i in no way hang onto the MC people - but since mopheus 1.3.3 cannot connect to a master server makes it really friendly for me.

something other - i saw people connecting from different ports than 1214 - is there a hack for that?
indy


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File: surprise.mp3
Length:5845871Bytes
UUHash:=1LDYkHDl65OprVz37xN1VSo9b00=
Copy the lines above and use the 'Paste from Clipboard' function of sig2dat 3.2.a to create a startfile for your FastTrack p2p client for safe download!

twinspan
Registered User
Posts: 1
(3/6/02 8:29:00 pm)
Reply what's the point?
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dum noob question here, but if KaZaa and Grokster still connect to the FT network, what's the benefit in hacking to old Morpheus version?

I'm not saying there is none, I just want to know what it is before I start trying to delve into my registry.

IndianaJonesAIBB
Registered User
Posts: 39
(3/6/02 9:03:33 pm)
Reply Re: what's the point?
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i just find the idea fascinating, that there could be e second FT net, which couldn't be forced to be updated or shut down by any master server(s) - like it happened just recently - simply because it doesn't connect anymore to this Master server(s)

what i watched: a startup i.e. morpheus tries to connect to MC server to logon - if it were successful it got a list of supernodes and started to connect - if not (like now) - it startes to connect to a supernode, stored in the registry (Connectioninfo). therefore you just need supernodes which are connected to each other and a list of them for each user and you can keep up your Master independent FT net, which is surely not so easy to control or to monitor like the one, which always is somehow connected to a Master.

its just an idea to play with it.
indy

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File: surprise.mp3
Length:5845871Bytes
UUHash:=1LDYkHDl65OprVz37xN1VSo9b00=
Copy the lines above and use the 'Paste from Clipboard' function of sig2dat 3.2.a to create a startfile for your FastTrack p2p client for safe download!

twinspan
Registered User
Posts: 3
(3/6/02 9:22:09 pm)
Reply independence day
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so this way, we can stay free of Sharman's clutches?

When I finally gave up on old Morf, I uninstalled it and tried installing Grok. But that failed, so now I'm running Kazaa.

What's the expert opinion: Shd I hack Kazaa, re-try & hack Grok, or re-install Morf/Refo (both of which I got on CD-R somewhere)? (keeping in mind I'm a newbie)

Thanks.

thegame412
Unregistered User
(3/12/02 9:44:33 am)
Reply Question about Morpheus
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I'm currently connected to Morpheus as thegame412@???. That's what it says. How come it doesn't say musiccity. It doesn't bother me. I'm just corious. And about the registry. Mine has a 36 in the fourth slot. When I changed it back to a 5 from 24, it went to a 26.

Kamorph
Unregistered User
(3/18/02 2:56:57 pm)
Reply This is interesting @#%$
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Looks like we can keep up a separate FastTracknetwork all by ourselves.

Streamcast, Sharman, RIAA and all those other would be moneymakers can't stop us.

Wow man this is gonna have some impact!!

JohnDoe345
Registered User
Posts: 167
(3/18/02 10:46:48 pm)
Reply Re: This is interesting @#%$
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Looks like we can keep up a separate FastTracknetwork all by ourselves.
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This was suppose to be the promise of the uncentralized network. If the company goes down then the p2p program is suppose to survive on its own. Although, in this case it has taken a different turn. Users want to use the older Morpheus but not the new one. I think that this would've caught on more if Grokster (without spyware) wasn't a good alternative.

Although, it is something to keep in mind for the future in case more p2p companies start selling out to the RIAA, etc.



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[butterfly_kisses]

most people probably aren't interested in this anymore unfortunately for me this still holds a great deal of fascination.

i found this link to a german webpage here is the translated
version (translated poorly into english by the google interpreter engine)

http://translate.google.com/translat...F8%26oe%3DUTF8


Basically what it says is that if you find a working supernode just register its ip address in place of the supernode.kazaa.com and supernode2.kazaa.com in your hosts file that way you will be able to connect with an older client to the network...(this was done for the Linux version)

also if you are a windows user...here is a reg file that works as of

Friday, May 17, 2002

Enjoy

Click the link to download the reg file
(for 1.4 user's only)