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Old 19-04-06, 02:00 PM   #1
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I argue here that US economy is not less vulnerable to an oil shock than 30 years ago. I shall use a simple example, with only approximate statistics. The average american citizen is now twice wealthier than 30 years ago and uses about the same amount of gasoline for the private car, paying now only 3% of disposable income for gasoline instead of 6% in the (crude oil squeezed) year of 1980.
Now, let's suppose a world oil supply disruption occurs on the same magnitude as in 1980. It's not unreasonable to think that for continuing life as usual, the americans may be willing to pay up to 6% of the now enhanced income. And this may bring the price of crude oil much above 100$ per barrel.
Back to macroeconomics, this may bring an increase of 300 billion $ of US trade deficit , on top of the 700 billions $ already in place. All this in a stressed world economy.
Most probably, deep recession, possibly world recession shall impede this scenario from coming true. Market forces are great for gradual change. Political leadership is in need at discontinuities.

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this was an interesting comment i read in an article awhile back
i was lucky to find it again..
our treasurer seems to think a 70's oil shock is on the cards*
not sure if he might be right about this

what happened to the US$ yesterday ?
the AU$ was like 70c US now its back to 75..that was the biggest fall i have noticed for quite awhile

*no ,he says its actually happening in a similar fashion to the 70's ?

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But Mr Costello said Australia was now experiencing an oil crisis similar to what occurred in the 1970s, when soaring oil prices pushed up prices across the economy.

Mr Costello said he was confident businesses would continue to keep a lid on prices, but if they did not, there would be wider repercussions for the country.

"We have to be absolutely vigilant that this oil shock does not set off a wave of inflation because if it did we would all be punished a second time," he said.

"Not just punished at the bowser but punished a second time with inflation and the commensurate monetary policy response."
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Old 19-04-06, 04:04 PM   #2
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But Mr Costello said Australia was now experiencing an oil crisis similar to what occurred in the 1970s, when soaring oil prices pushed up prices across the economy.

Mr Costello said he was confident businesses would continue to keep a lid on prices, but if they did not, there would be wider repercussions for the country.

"We have to be absolutely vigilant that this oil shock does not set off a wave of inflation because if it did we would all be punished a second time," he said.

"Not just punished at the bowser but punished a second time with inflation and the commensurate monetary policy response."
Another load of political doublespeak; He's confident things will be OK but he's scared things will get bad.

In the U.S. there are still plenty of people wasting gasoline who need to be encouraged to change their ways.

I do believe there are fewer people driving past my house than in the past and I like it that way.

I'm certainly driving and riding less; $12.25 just to fill my motorcycle tank. I skipped my ritual springtime dayride this year and started spending more time on my mountain bike; 17 miles yesterday.

I've been waiting for the diesel pickup I ordered and hoping I get it before GM goes out of business. Then I'll get a second heating oil tank and be ready for any shortages of diesel fuel.

Intelligent people will learn how to cope, idiots will just bitch and moan.
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Old 20-04-06, 11:17 AM   #3
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Intelligent people will learn how to cope, idiots will just bitch and moan.
What your really saying is "Intelligent people will just continue to take it up the ass without protesting, while idiots are the really smart people, because they might try to actually do something about it"
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Old 20-04-06, 11:41 AM   #4
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Yeah, your whining and bawling about gas prices for the last 2 years has really done something; it's entertained me and shown everyone what a pathetic crybaby you are.

...and also how you see everything in terms of anal sex.
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Old 20-04-06, 01:55 PM   #5
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Yeah, your whining and bawling about gas prices for the last 2 years has really done something; it's entertained me and shown everyone what a pathetic crybaby you are.

...and also how you see everything in terms of anal sex.
Guess you can read very well, I asked "Where is the fukin outrage".

So asswipe, where am I in this message "whining and bawling"?

Maybe you need to get some reading glasses, and also pull your head outa' your ass before popping off. And I really don't give a rat's ass about 'everyone', but apparently you do, what it really shows is that you are a insecure little mean spirited slimebag that really needs to get a life beyond this board.

I could give 2 shits about whether you are riding your little tricycle or walking or whatever.

So, in the words of our buddies across the pond...."Sod off"
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Old 22-04-06, 06:31 PM   #6
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Oh Pisser, what won't you be a whiny bitch about?
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Old 24-04-06, 08:54 AM   #7
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Oh Pisser, what won't you be a whiny bitch about?
Your and Albed's demise.
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