Wolfgang's Vault

[theknife]

here's a question for you rippers - when you save a whole concert, do you save it as one long mp3 or do you break down the tracks into individual mp3's - and if so, how?

[JackSpratts]

Originally Posted by theknife

here's a question for you rippers - when you save a whole concert, do you save it as one long mp3 or do you break down the tracks into individual mp3's - and if so, how?

taking the elton john concert as an example since you've listened to it, i would have to break it down and trim every song. depending on the sophistication of the ripper those huge inter-song gaps may have to be removed if they weren't ignored. since several of his songs ran together as one seamless peice (like that burn down the mission-shotun-give peace a chance-higher set) any gaps ruin the show.

to eliminate them i'd open the wav files in goldwave and proceed accordingly. when done i'd burn to cd or down-convert to mp3 (or ogg etc) and save. if they're already mp3s there are mp3 editors that eliminate re-converting to wav and back (goldwave is a wav editor).

this way it's simple to play any song without having to search a huge file, and they flow as intended.

- js.

[theknife]

Originally Posted by JackSpratts

taking the elton john concert as an example since you've listened to it, i would have to break it down and trim every song. depending on the sophistication of the ripper those huge inter-song gaps may have to be removed if they weren't ignored. since several of his songs ran together as one seamless peice (like that burn down the mission-shotun-give peace a chance-higher set) any gaps ruin the show.

to eliminate them i'd open the wav files in goldwave and proceed accordingly. when done i'd burn to cd or down-convert to mp3 (or ogg etc) and save. if they're already mp3s there are mp3 editors that eliminate re-converting to wav and back (goldwave is a wav editor).

this way it's simple to play any song without having to search a huge file, and they flow as intended.

- js.

yup, i figured there wasn't any easy way - i was hoping for something that might detect that 2 second break in the stream between songs and create a new file for each song. (the way StreamRipper does for web radio...and there still might be something like that in Total Rec that i haven't found).

for the time, i convert the whole thing to mp3 via Blade, and then use MP3 Trim to just trim and save each file.

btw, if you're an 80's type swooning geezer like me, i highly recommend Duran Duran at the Hammersmith Odeon - good playlist, great quality

[floydian slip]

Originally Posted by Ramona_A_Stone

Entrepreneur Bill Sagan once came upon a fleet of 40 foot trucks filled to bursting with 60's and 70s music memorabilia collected by rock impresario Bill Graham, and bought the whole lot for about 6 million: photographs, posters, tickets, any and everything you can imagine, including thousands of high quality soundboard recordings of the biggest rock stars of the time caught in the act. This collection was the impetus for Wolfgang's Vault--originally created to sell off bits of these archives and now mostly hawking reproductions on T-shirts and coffee mugs etc. More interestingly, the site also allows visitors to stream these never released live recordings of Cream, The Doors, Hendrix, Zeppelin, Floyd, The Stones, Zappa and others.

Well, man your streamrippers and get 'em while they're hot if you're interested folks, because these recordings may soon disappear (into the P2P Underground, at least). Members of Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Grateful Dead and Carlos Santana are taking Sagan to federal court friday to sue his pants, and most likely his website, off. Stay tuned.

wondering why the dead are suing, they let people record thier shows??

but anyway...

GREAT SITE!!

wow

i wish i would have clicked this thread before today

streamripper eh?

after reding through this thread, it looks like you guys have agreed that total recorder is the ware to rip this site?

[theknife]

Originally Posted by floydian slip

wondering why the dead are suing, they let people record thier shows??

but anyway...

GREAT SITE!!

wow

i wish i would have clicked this thread before today

streamripper eh?

after reding through this thread, it looks like you guys have agreed that total recorder is the ware to rip this site?

yup, i wondered that about the Dead too...

anyway, Total Rec has worked well for me...the only thing i cannot nail down is how to make the timer work, so i can schedule a show and have it stop recording automtically when the show is over..

[daddydirt]

i grabbed the Pink Floyd - Fillmore West San Francisco, CA 04/29/1970 show in mp3 last night using River Past Audio Capture v7.0.2.61002. then i used Adobe Audition to cut the songbreaks. the 2hr10min file is 298MB in all.

if you get the concert info from the site first you can schedule River Past to shut off at a certain point, next one i get i'll set it to shut off a couple of minutes after so there's less to trim.

here are a few links that i used to get the job done.

http://www.riverpast.com/en/prod/audiocapture/features/

http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/tutorials/ (bottom of page)

http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/.../install/lame/

[theknife]

Originally Posted by daddydirt

i grabbed the Pink Floyd - Fillmore West San Francisco, CA 04/29/1970 show in mp3 last night using River Past Audio Capture v7.0.2.61002. then i used Adobe Audition to cut the songbreaks. the 2hr10min file is 298MB in all.

if you get the concert info from the site first you can schedule River Past to shut off at a certain point, next one i get i'll set it to shut off a couple of minutes after so there's less to trim.

here are a few links that i used to get the job done.

http://www.riverpast.com/en/prod/audiocapture/features/

http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/tutorials/ (bottom of page)

http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/.../install/lame/

thanks for the tip, dd - that would solve my two Total Rec problems - auto-conversion to mp3 and scheduling

edit: btw, does Adobe pick up the song breaks automatically or do you have to manually find them to cut up the individual tracks?