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multi · 25-04-05, 07:25 PM

yeh they love it ..

give em more

they are like sponges
the more you can dish out
the more they can suck it up..

eventualy the overkill will reach a threshold

and then they will reflect it back while being unmoved by it..

terror management

floydian slip · 26-04-05, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazer

If that were the that case, I don't think the foreign military presence that not only allows but encourages us to elect a new government could be called an occupying force anymore.

well if it happened right now in the u.s. i would aim at the light blue helmets.
as the iraqi's are aiming at our helmets, and the goverment that was set up by the occupiers is a dictated democracy. dont forget that the u.s./coalition will be there for about 10 more years. maybe we are there to unify iraq by over-staying there for a while, ya know get em so mad that they forget their differences to rid themselves of the great satan.

Mazer · 26-04-05, 05:01 PM

That may very well be the way it turns out, but their victory would still be our success. From now on Iraq's guns will be pointed outward at its enemies rather than inward at its own people.

Westerners will never really leave Iraq, ever. The troops will pull out, obviously, and most of the American contractors will come home unharmed; Iraq will stand on it's own two feet from then on. But they'll be more willing to obey international treaties, they'll be more suceptible to UN sanctions if it ever gets to that, and except for their ties to OPEC, their economy will be more integrated into the world economy and more vulnerable to its swings. Who knows, Iraq may become the world's next Japan with a booming tech sector and a prolonged recession as a counter-balance. The point is that with Saddam gone Iraq's military ambitions are spent and they'll be more willing to please the western nations they perceive as being more powerful than they. This is exactly what the fanatical Muslim minority always feared would happen.

theknife · 26-04-05, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazer

That may very well be the way it turns out, but their victory would still be our success. From now on Iraq's guns will be pointed outward at its enemies rather than inward at its own people.

guess you haven't seen the news much lately, huh? iraq's enemies are it's own people.

Mazer · 27-04-05, 10:52 PM

Yes, I know the terrorists are now targeting Iraqi citizens. They're trying to fill the void that the Fedayeen Saddam have vacated. Hell, there were about thirty or forty thousand Fedayeen when we invaded, there's no way they've all been captured or killed and they're probably the ones stiring up so much trouble now. So yes, Iraqis are killing Iraqis, but this time the government isn't the culprit; their guns aren't pointed at innocent civilians anymore. To be precise, Iraq's enemies are criminals, some of whom happen to be Iraqis.

25-04-05, 07:25 PM	#21
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26-04-05, 05:01 PM	#23
Mazer Earthbound misfit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moses Lake, Washington Posts: 2,563	That may very well be the way it turns out, but their victory would still be our success. From now on Iraq's guns will be pointed outward at its enemies rather than inward at its own people. Westerners will never really leave Iraq, ever. The troops will pull out, obviously, and most of the American contractors will come home unharmed; Iraq will stand on it's own two feet from then on. But they'll be more willing to obey international treaties, they'll be more suceptible to UN sanctions if it ever gets to that, and except for their ties to OPEC, their economy will be more integrated into the world economy and more vulnerable to its swings. Who knows, Iraq may become the world's next Japan with a booming tech sector and a prolonged recession as a counter-balance. The point is that with Saddam gone Iraq's military ambitions are spent and they'll be more willing to please the western nations they perceive as being more powerful than they. This is exactly what the fanatical Muslim minority always feared would happen.

27-04-05, 10:52 PM	#25
Mazer Earthbound misfit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moses Lake, Washington Posts: 2,563	Yes, I know the terrorists are now targeting Iraqi citizens. They're trying to fill the void that the Fedayeen Saddam have vacated. Hell, there were about thirty or forty thousand Fedayeen when we invaded, there's no way they've all been captured or killed and they're probably the ones stiring up so much trouble now. So yes, Iraqis are killing Iraqis, but this time the government isn't the culprit; their guns aren't pointed at innocent civilians anymore. To be precise, Iraq's enemies are criminals, some of whom happen to be Iraqis.