IRC and newsgroups still beat P2P's ass

[napho]

They still get stuff first but I've noticed the gap closing quickly. eDonkey and Direct Connect are getting some things only a few days after IRC.


http://www.slyck.com/newsmay2002/051202a.html

[colinmacc]

Presumably, if an IRC user is also on EDonkey, then the new stuff should filter through after a couple of days,

Also, we know of EDonkey users that are also KazaaLite users and so it should filter through to there in about a week...

The bigest headache on P2P is the people who CLAIM to have something they do not. For example do a search on FastTrack for "Attack Clones"... Where do these people get off with pulling stunts like this?

[Vladd44]

well, I can say at least 1 person on winmx is sharing the real 2 vcd ready mpg version of episode 2 attack of the clones.....me, but yes of course I got it off a newsgroup.

But the gap is closing very rapidly.

[butterfly_kisses]

this was an extremely interesting article...thank-you Napho for sharing it.

I've always found these newsgroups and IRC (especially IRC) to be very confusing....can anyone here write a tutorial that explains how these work....how do any of you personal use them?

how do i get on them sucessfully and get what i want (namely movies and software)

And does anyone know if these irc groups are friendly for dial-up users or this something mostly reserved for broadband users like the "donkey" and "direct connect"

I am looking for tips here on sucessfully finding and getting files off of both the newsgroups and irc...can anyone please explain this to me (dummy version preferably)

thanks,

-harbynger

[AYB]

One feature hybrid p2p clients aim for is creating a completely transparent method for the user to access IRC fserves and newsgroups. It's something I'm planning to do myself, basically behind the scenes the client will log on to one or more irc servers, and enter mp3/movie trading channels and compile a list of the available files, probably by logging onto the fserves and finding out wat each of them contain. To the user all they have to do is enter their search term, and along with FastTrak, Opennap, Gnutella, WinMX, eDonkey networks the client also uses results from IRC.

[AYB]

Also, while we're on the topic, does anyone know a way to access the requisite (alt.binaries.* ?) newsgroups without having to pay for a proper service?

[indiana_jones]

you need a free server which ahs alt binaries groups:
i.e.

"biggulp.readfreenews.net"

is one of them.
indy

[napho]

I posted these before. They get things off IRC although I haven't tested them thoroughly yet.

http://dotget.org/


http://www.musirc.com/

Here are some tutorials on IRC and newsgroups

http://www.slyck.com/irc.html

http://www.slyck.com/newsgroups.html

Free newsservers (mostly they suck) Your isp is your best bet

http://www.newsservers4u.xrs.net/

http://www.newzbot.com/

[AYB]

Aye, I've had problems with free news servers in the past, trying to find one which has the right newsgroups which doesn't disappear after a couple of weeks for example

[ssj4_android]

What newsgroup is attack of the clones in?

[napho]

These are some good movie groups.

anime.vcd
movies
movies.divx
movies.divx.french
movies.divx.german
movies.divx.repost
movies.mirage-mrg
movies.purity
movies.repost
movies.shadowrealm
movies.shadowrealm.repost
movies.zeromovies
multimedia
svcd
vcd
vcd.dvd-rip
vcd.highspeed
vcd.repost
vcdz


Get yourselves a fancy newsreaderbot too.

http://download.com.com/3150-2164-0.html?tag=stbc.gp


btw Attack of The Clones is listed on Sharereactor

[goldie]

Originally posted by AYB
Also, while we're on the topic, does anyone know a way to access the requisite (alt.binaries.* ?) newsgroups without having to pay for a proper service?

Believe it or not, I would too.

Getting free access to alt.binaries was the ONLY real benefit of internet access the webtv way

[assorted]

the problem with programs that access irc seems to be that they don't take into account the limited serving bandwidth going on. irc channels are already overloaded; introducing clients with leechers would make it much worse.

Originally posted by AYB
One feature hybrid p2p clients aim for is creating a completely transparent method for the user to access IRC fserves and newsgroups. It's something I'm planning to do myself, basically behind the scenes the client will log on to one or more irc servers, and enter mp3/movie trading channels and compile a list of the available files, probably by logging onto the fserves and finding out wat each of them contain. To the user all they have to do is enter their search term, and along with FastTrak, Opennap, Gnutella, WinMX, eDonkey networks the client also uses results from IRC.

[AYB]

If I was to implement it, I would only do so if it was possible to allow "uploads" by running a fserve transparent to the user containing their shared files.

[napho]

Originally posted by goldenrod


Believe it or not, I would too.

Getting free access to alt.binaries was the ONLY real benefit of internet access the webtv way

test. news.rcn.ne is a free one that's been working forever. But it's slow.

[goldie]

Originally posted by napho

Napho, have I told you lately that U R DA BOOOMB!!

Thanx!!

[Vladd44]

ssj4_android,

i found attack of the clones in alt.dominion

[dumwaldo]

i have posted some thoughts and tips about this topic on the forum at www.vcdquality.com

for some helpfull tips on getting started on irc and newsgroups...
http://www.vcdquality.com/forum/show...&threadid=2093

and for my thoughts on peer to peer and how it compares to irc/newsgroups this may be interesting reading...
http://www.vcdquality.com/forum/show...&threadid=2831

looking for good irc networks?
irc.criten.net
irc.infatech.net
irc.undernet.net

[assorted]

excellent summaries ya got there mr. waldo. thx for linking.