WinMX 3.1 Bitch List

[thinker]

Uh, yeah, I'm an ass, so I'll start a bitch list on the new version already. This is off the top of my head. Here's what I don't like about the new version:

It seems less configurable than before, especially in important areas such as number of simultaneous connections, time between connections, et al.

When a connection on a network times out, it WILL NOT automatically attempt to reconnect. In this way, it's even worse than the one at a time manual connections in low-cap using 2.6. At least THOSE would reconnect, or try to.

You have to get your cursor in that little nth of a CH between the last network and the gray area in order to drag up and highlight the whole list. The reason this has to be done is, obviously, because of no "Connect All" feature.

I like the color codes inside the search, such as matches local incomplete file, etc., but there is no color for results in the search that have finished downloading after you selected them - they just turn back to white. Likewise, there is also no code for one that you started and is now incomplete. This to some may seem a pissy complaint, but hey, not everyone spends every second in the transfer window.

I'm sure there are more things, but I can't see them right now SINCE I'M RUNNING 2.6 INSTEAD. Right now I'm in a middle of the road session - connected to 29 servers with a little over .8 EB available on OpenNap. However, that's more than I can hope for using 3.1 and having anything approaching an nth of convenience. Don't get me wrong, there are some pluses with the new vers, but I'm not completely sold on it - maybe since I'm on dial-up and mutisourcing means Jack Shit to me. Hopefully the guys at Frontcode, who have worked very hard, can get things situated (perhaps a 3.2 sometime soon? ).

Feel free to rant (in related fashion) below.

[JackSpratts]

i'd like some colors while they're at it, configurable by the user like the original, upon whose pages i placed the lovliest shades of blue.

oh dear.

and yeah, it needs more configurables. they should just put in a geek button that opens up a whole array of stuff that normal squids wouldn't go near if you paid 'em and leave it at that.

- js.

[napho]

No question WinMX is weak with certain features because they've concentrated on the technical aspects. Now that this is such a powerful client maybe they'll focus more on the small details. Overall though it's pretty good and getting rave reviews.


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[Dawn]

I'll never understand why some people love Winmx. I can't seem to connect to many servers (6 tops out of 93), even tho I tried for almost an hour. Then when I did a search, I was 42nd in line for the movie I wanted. But within 2 minutes, 8 different 56k'rs were getting MY movies. Ummm, I always thought sharing was supposed to be 2 ways.

I'll stick to edonkey, iMesh, and Direct Connect

[HAL9000]

WinMX is not for Movies

hi Dawn

[AweShucks]

I personally like the new version alot more than 2.6 The feature that are missing or have changed are missed but the overall advancements to the network are great. The PNP seems much more stable and much faster. Multisource downloading speeds up downloads by 25% for me and I'm a 56k connection. I like the auto clear of uploads etc. I share over 400 cdcovers and often have 200+ uploads for them in less than 8hrs.

I would like to see the old style bandwidth controls back!


The use of opennap is little needed and to connect to all is NEVER necessary. Connecting to 4 or 5 of the larger networks is all that is needed. Opennap servers change daily that is why lists often go dead fast thats not a problem with the client Thats a problem with every opennap client.

Movies isn't WinMXs cup of tea music is and 56krs shouldn't be downloading movies anyway

[thinker]

OpenNap little needed? On the contrary, that's how I find most bootlegs and the like. I find a lot of folks out there with such things on OpenNap, but not often on WPNP. There are definitely many pluses and minuses alike with the new vers; hopefully they'll be able to get another up in the next couple of months to bring everything together. If I was on broadband maybe I'd feel differently; I don't know. As for movies, I don't even try to bother at all. I wouldn't tell dial-uppers not to try, but it is fairly ill-advised, unless you have a good enough setup where you can actually stay on for a couple of days and you know personally someone on high-speed who can stay connected. Movies/TV shows/etc., yeah, definitely a broadband thing. As Awe said, music is WinMX's cup; I get banned from places for not having X number of files - I have more pictures than music files at the moment, and the pictures get filtered out on many a server. I don't care too much, though, just waiting for improvements to what's already the best (though imperfect) thing out there.

[Dawn]

Originally posted by HAL9000
WinMX is not for Movies

hi Dawn

[AweShucks]

Originally posted by thinker
OpenNap little needed? On the contrary, that's how I find most bootlegs and the like. I find a lot of folks out there with such things on OpenNap, but not often on WPNP.

Opennap is good for the rare stuff agree. But often times people feel it is a MUST to be connected to every damn server online Even when looking for everyday stuff! People often connect to every server in a linked network when only one connection is needed. And then people wonder why the get swamped with uploads and always get queued

[goldie]

I "kindof" like it.

I can't be specific at the moment (have some major termite damage repair work to do (in and outside) and won't be "online" long enough to get into bone picking.

Let's just say it has great potential and leave it at that, eh?

Ya'll have a good weekend, ya hear!

[napho]

Originally posted by HAL9000
WinMX is not for Movies

Sure it is. Less than 1/2 hour to get a small version of Spiderman. It can be tricky though; many ppl want to trade.

[Dawn]

The small size movies suck

[HAL9000]

Originally posted by Dawn
The small size suck

this is what I thought inintially...

[JackSpratts]

well, at least i figured out the colors. all back to normal now. looks just like i used to have napster. it may be a small thing but it makes using it more pleasurable for me.

- js.

[Snarkridden]

AweShucks said...
I would like to see the old style bandwidth controls back!

You know its been such a long time since I used 2.6 now, I plain forgot how the bandwidth controls worked, but I know they DO work well in WinMx 3.1, and are available, certainly for the openap servers they are, not a great fan of the WNP, as it seems to be so full of freeloaders at the moment that have forgotten how to share, even forgotten how to encode their own CD's ?

Spend most of my watching time, doing a "Whois" and dumping the non sharers after one download.

Sounds mean maybe it does, but without some hints the whole network will degenerate into a fre-loaders paradise.

Setting up your OPENNAP servers:

One advantage of WinMx 3.1 is the server update feature. Just click on Find WSX in the Networks screen, and your search panel will automatically be configured to find a server (.WSX) file, when this file is downloaded, click on the Import WSX button and these servers will be presented in your network list.

So many different server lists available but only those with the format PUBLIC nnnnnnnn nnnnnnnn nnnnnnnn type of format are those genuinly created by another WinMx user, the nnnnnnn being a packed date format in the form 20YYMMDD.

the subsequent packed dates usually indicate the range of dates of the data the update file was created from.

There are still a lot of old format WSX files for WinMx 2.6 and the beta versions of winMx 3.0, these may contain some usefull server data, but this will need editing out and pasting in to you current lists (or hand entered) to be valid.

Raw IP numbers because of their transient nature on dialup systems are discouraged, even deleted by default from the updates, thouh you can opt to include them, it is NOT a good idea to do so by default, only when the DNS lookup has not worked for a specific server, or that server IP is very new, or is fixed is it neccessary to use IP numbers.

When you have your list of good servers, you can share them with others by exporting them to a file in your shared folder, but if you do this you MUST remember to highlite those servers you wish to include in the server update file, the export feature does NOT include all by default, so many short single entry files have been seen recently where users have only marked one server.

Fussy Servers :

You will find a resistance to WinMx in some server operators due to personal predjudic or potential flooding problems, you should than invoke the use random client option or better still set your own client report in the server edit box, a good choice seems to be audioGnome (spelled exactly that way)

Some servers (SlavaNap) have adopted other ways of determining your client type, so the renaming trick may not always work, personaly if I get a fussy server type of rejection that server gets deleted from the list, there are plenty of others around.

refreshing servers:

you will need to do this on a regular basis as the opennap network runs a lot of prsonal small servers at the whim of the operator, may or may not be 24 hours, sometime only at the weekend, so don't discard a Timeded out server directly, wait a week then check again.

Reports:

Timeout network could not find server address
Refused: Server operation is busy, you are not registered etc
Server full: Well this is obvious, try again at less busy times.
You are BANNED: Well what did you do? did you insult the server operator, did you try to share illegal material (porn etc)?

You must remember that SERVER OPERATORS ARE GODS and what they say and want GOES, some are sociable creartures that want you to join a room, so you may find out what they have to offer you, or find out about you, usualy the threats to kick you if you FAIL to join a room are just hot air, sometimes not

Generally if you get annoyed by the constant barrage of IM's from server roBOTS then join a room seek out the admin and ask then not to, or you can just put the bots nickname in the ingore list and that will be the end of it (you hope!)

I've tried to put a few points here in answer to questions, i'm not say ing they are 100% correct, they are as perceived by me in runing winMx 3.0 & 3.1.

There are many more points, made by others, all worth of note and sharing, this is just my personal contribution.

typed live, so no spell checks...

Snark..

[nanook]

i'm still using 2.6, a year later.
i see no reason to switch.
it runs fine for me.
never been banned.
get everything i usually need.
will i eventually have to switch????
or will i be able to stay with 2.6?

[assorted]

i really like the latest software; much better then 2.6... also seemed more stable; i was getting the blue screen of death with 2.6 on quitting and i'm all clear now; also seemed a little lighter on my resources then 2.6. plus i love all the new options.

too bad the community is still shit. winmx network is without a doubt the heaviest leech community for any client i have. all my upload slots consistently and immediately full up while i find nothing useful to download; or if i do; it's someone with an absurdly long que. audiogalaxy, directconnect and kazaa have none of those problems with their community.

so hopefully the new client being as attractive as it is will bring a better form of user to the network. i hope so.

[JackSpratts]

hey snark, great post!

- js.

[StereoDeluxe]

You are BANNED: Well what did you do? did you insult the server operator, did you try to share illegal material (porn etc)?

I got banned from "kaenguru". I got back from work and found nasty messages on screen. He (kaenguru op) couldn't download anything from me. Later I found I was banned from kaenguru opennap network, reason being "shared child porn".

[thinker]

Hmmm...in my past experiences I found Audiogalaxy and KaZaA to be, well, crap. Never tried DC. As for "leeches," are they actually leeches or do they just not have anything you want? There's definitely a difference. Moreover, some OpenNap servers do not correctly detect the number of files being shared. Many a time I looked like a leech when in fact I was sharing hundreds of files (and, after the crash, dozens ). I've found good users on WinMX; I don't know why you haven't seemed to. Never seemed to get any BSoDs from it either. Oh well - everyone has their own set of circumstances. Seems to me as well that for every new option there is in 3.1, there's been one taken away that was present in the past. It's all the same in the end anyway - people trying to get their files however they can.