Is FADING a sign of FAILURE?

[Snarkridden]

What ever happened to composition structure?

Why do so many recordings today end with a fade?

Don't modern musicians know the structure of a song?

I suppose its hard to tack on a sequence that finishes correctly, so much easier to use the same loop and just fade it in the final?

Pity, it spoils the enjoyment of a good piece to have it faded at some arbitary point by the mixman, and why do they always fade at a point where the next phrase is due?

End of Rant.... Snark...

[ONEMANBANNED]

well Snark, my opinion to that would be for the sole purpose of commercialism. I watched a documentary on Jimi and most of his songs he wanted to play in thier entirety,but in order to get airplay on the radio the pruducers wanted his songs to be no more than 3 min long. Jimi bieng a pioneer /rebel stayed true.
He played what he wrote ,be it a 5 minute song and went into the studio and basicly said here you go.I wrote a 5 min song,and you want a 3 min version ,so he played the 5 min song fast enough to get it into 3 min. The record co. were`nt impressed but he had em over a barrell.

[theknife]

I am the entertainer
I come to do my show
You've heard my latest record
It's been on the radio
Ah, it took me years to write it
They were the best years of my life
It was a beautiful song
But it ran too long
If you're gonna have a hit
You gotta make it fit
So they cut it down to 3:05

Billy Joel The Entertainer



Fading is a sign of weakness....

[Snarkridden]

Have a way with words.... Jimmy, can only be the ONE

Must be the Hendrix man...

Shit to comercialism, has no place in REAL music...

Snark...

[nanook]

oh, the days of the old 12-15 minute songs....that was back in the day when the whole friggin album was so good, you could just put the arm back and hear it over and over again, or am i the only one who remembers.........*note to self...ur getting old*

mind you, these were not the songs u heard on the radio, too often. i guess that's why i rarely listened to the radio.

so yes, fading is a necessary weakness, for those with no taste...















just joking, folks..........not.
okay, i am. for i listen to the radio often and lack taste sometimes, as well.

[Bronxie]

In highschool my teacher said that fading just has to do with getting airplay on the radio. It's easy to fade out and go into another song

[Jader]

I just noticed recently that 80's songs in particular faded like there was no tomorrow. Even great rock songs simply drifted into silence... weird.

I think fades are popular because it's easy to come up with a good intro, tie-in riff, main chorus line but hard to end on a note so to speak. So they take the easy way out -- hey mixer board, turn down the master gain... it'll sound cool!!

How lame. Death to fades I say!!

Most Tool songs are very heavy at the end... me likes...

[Snarkridden]

Yes Nanook...

.........*note to self...ur getting old*


So am I my friend, and for the same reasons I Hate fading too, nice to know I am not alone out here..

Why even my top rated instrumental group Acoustic Alchemy have bloody fades now..

Grrrrrrrrrrr...

Snark..

[greedy_lars]

no

[Malk-a-mite]

I think like many other things fading is only a bad sign when it is over used.

One of my favorite pieces of music is Rush's "Leave that thing alone" from the Counterparts album.

There is a great quality to the song, the fade out at the end makes me feel like I walked into a scene where this music was being played and when I leave the room it's still going on somewhere.


It's rare - but sometimes it works just right.