Anyone use Direct Connect?

[JohnDoe345]

I've been using Direct Connect for a few weeks now and the amount of shared files is amazing. The problem I'm having is that some hubs are disconnecting me when I've met the requirements. I was wonder if anyone else is having this problem? I've heard that sometimes the admins can go power crazy. Anyhow, I was just wondering if there is a bug in the program or something.

[napho]

I mention it here occasionally but no one listens.
I've never had a problem with the program but don't use it much cuz the requirements are out of my league on most hubs.
The admins are out of control and can kick you for any reason. Check the chat window to see if the bot is throwing you out. It's hilarious to see one name after another getting tossed.

[zombywoof]

I would use direct connect more but the problem is the size of my hd alone is not large enough to meet the minimum requirements for a lot of servers.

[JohnDoe345]

by Napho
The admins are out of control and can kick you for any reason.

That's what I thought. I think I got banned from this one hub even though I don't remember doing anything wrong. Oh well, they have many other hubs.

I also agree that the minimum hub requirements on some of the hubs are ridiculous. Although, there are enough hubs that don't have that high of a requirement, but like you guys said most people don't have enough room on their hard drives to fill the requirements or even work their way up to the requirements. It's a shame because it's a fairly decent p2p program.

[phateboard]

ive just recently got a 100 gig hard drive, partly because i needed to get into the good hubs on direct connect, i used to have a 20 gig, i was in file heaven for a while but it kept crashing on windows xp, which really sucks its an asome program its got rare files and you can get good speeds after looking for a while but its to buggy for me to use, i guess im gonna have to wait till they fix some bugs.

[TankGirl]

Here are the links for those interested to give it a go:

Neo-Modus Direct Connect homepage

Network statistics

An interesting detail from the statistics: 1568 TB shared content / 56424 users = 28.4 GB shared / user - that is some serious sharing!

- tg

[kristof47]

If you like DC, you might want to try DC++, a C++ version of the program which allows multi-hub, better resume (from any filename), multiple source downloading (though not at the same time, more like backups if the first one goes offline), fast share list loading and some other stuff.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dcplusplus/

[JackSpratts]

Originally posted by TankGirl
1568 TB shared content / 56424 users = 28.4 GB shared / user - that is some serious sharing!

- tg

no shite sherlock! i'm sharing 7 gigs (2500 files) on win/morph/xoxlox. that's less than 25% of theirs! but you know, with only 128k up, people are already queued enough as it is at the house of spratts. i put any more files on and i'll have a little angry mob on my hands by those awaiting entry. who wants to read all those flaming IMs anyway? you know what's ironic? it'd cost more to add the bandwidth than to just go out and buy the records! agh, i said it. i need help. quick, some one stop me before i buy again!

- js.

[JackSpratts]

hey phateboard, thanks for stopping in hope you find the place to your liking. we're glad you made it.

- js.

[JohnDoe345]

Originally posted by TankGirl

An interesting detail from the statistics: 1568 TB shared content / 56424 users = 28.4 GB shared / user - that is some serious sharing!

If you fit the requirements for most hubs then like phateboard says, "you're in file heaven". One of the hubs I was in there were only about 200 users but they were sharing over 10 TB of data!! That's amazing when you compare that ratio to some other programs. But don't worry, not all hubs have a high requirement. There are still a handful of hubs not requiring anything and some even let 56k users in.

Just don't piss off the admins. You'll quickly get banned. Although, if you have the room on your hard drive you should fill it up first at other p2p programs and then use Direct Connect. The hubs with the high requirements are usually the ones sharing the "good stuff" but not always.

[i]by JS[i/]
128k up, people are already queued enough as it is at the house of spratts. i put any more files on and i'll have a little angry mob on my hands by those awaiting entry.

I think most users at Direct Connect have a 128 cap or some cap on their bandwidth. I myself do and many of the users I download from seem to as well. I haven't gotten flamed once yet. What I do is only share 1 slot so that the person uploading from me gets my full upload speed.

Although, the problem with that is that many hubs require that you share more then 1 slot, but many of them don't check so you can get away with it. The way I see is that I'm helping out the community because it only takes a few hours to download a large file from me compared 10 or more hours and even days if I share more then one upload slot.

Direct Connect isn't for everyone, but some of you might really like it. Like most p2p programs it's better for downloading certain files over another (I have yet to find a perfect p2p program for everything). It doesn't have muti-sourcing so very large files (300mb and up) can be a pain sometimes. You would want to find T1 and up connection for those files.

[TankGirl]

Originally posted by kristof47
If you like DC, you might want to try DC++, a C++ version of the program which allows multi-hub, better resume (from any filename), multiple source downloading (though not at the same time, more like backups if the first one goes offline), fast share list loading and some other stuff.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dcplusplus/

Thanks kristof47, I was already wondering if it is possible to connect to multiple hubs simultaneously. Some hub owners also seemed to dislike DC++ users ("no DC++ users please") - any particular reason for that?

Originally posted by JackSpratts
i'm sharing 7 gigs (2500 files) on win/morph/xoxlox. that's less than 25% of theirs! but you know, with only 128k up, people are already queued enough as it is at the house of spratts.

7 gigs is already a huge share on WinMX but the dynamics of these two systems are clearly different. The grand principle in DC (like JohnDoe345's example demonstrated) is to share shitloads of stuff among a small number of users which puts DC somewhere in between WinMX/Morpheus-type mass networks and luxurious private FTP servers. Sending a 7 gig batch to an opennap server or a WinMX supernode takes a lot of time, so does browsing, but in DC things go faster as only filename and filesize info are relevant. There is no bitrate info available for mp3s not to talk about additional metadata á la Morpheus - so in this respect DC is much like Gnutella. This is not necessarily a problem if you deal with full albums and mention the key info (e.g. release year and bitrate) in the foldername - a nice practice I have seen on many FTP servers.

Browsing somebody's library is simple but may take a lot of time as browse requests seems to be treated like any file requests - if there is no free slot to send the browse file to you, you will just have to wait for your turn (correct me if I am wrong).

Has any of you experiences of running a hub?

And welcome to the board phateboard - enjoy your stay at Napsterites!

- tg

[napho]

Here are some hubs and their rules. They're typical. There's also a program for multihub searches but the only link I have seems to be down now.




http://www.expage.com/lizardspubhomepage

[phateboard]

at cristmas i got a 100 gig so i was able to share around 60 gigs after sharing the old hard drive and a file i copyed over and over to get 60 gigs(how am i gonna share aot if i cant get into a good hub to download)? but after that i could get just about any file i wanted at about 30 k, altho i started having so many bugs with xp and all that it would crash when i left it on at night, in fact ive had alot of problems with file sharing programs with xp. it also takes ages to scan all the 65 gigs when you start up direct conect.

[JohnDoe345]

Originally posted by TankGirl

Some hub owners also seemed to dislike DC++ users ("no DC++ users please") - any particular reason for that?

I think the reason they don't like DC++ is because of what it can do...multi-hub. The reason I say this is because with the normal DC program you can only search in the hub you are in, so people using DC++ programs can download stuff from you but you can't download from them unless you are in the same hub as them or you also have DC++. Although, I could be wrong.

[assorted]

i was sharing an ebook that was Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita and got auto-kicked/banned from a hub for sharing "child porn". To be safe I removed the book from my ebook folder when connecting to future hubs. It was clearly set to go off just based on the name (in this case lolita) but I thought I'd let the first poster know that file names of possibly innocent material might set off an auto-kick on a hub.

I've had great struggles with Direct Connect and Black Ice Defender and have hoped there was something I could do in a black ice ini file so that I could connect in active mode while running Black Ice above "Trusting" level. (Similar to when I had to edit the ini file to be able to set up an FTP server). Can't find any info though so for now I have to set Black Ice up on "trusting" if i want to use Direct Connect in "active" mode.

[pod]

Originally posted by JohnDoe345


I think the reason they don't like DC++ is because of what it can do...multi-hub. The reason I say this is because with the normal DC program you can only search in the hub you are in, so people using DC++ programs can download stuff from you but you can't download from them unless you are in the same hub as them or you also have DC++. Although, I could be wrong.

But if you are on hub A, and want to download something from a user on hub B, you also have to be on hub B. Which means the other user can also download from you. No? I assume DC++ works by connecting to multiple hubs simultaneously. DC++ is not liked because, well, just because it's DC++, or maybe because someone things it does something to make sharing less effective for non-DC++ users.

[napho]

Search all DC hubs. It's slow but effective.

http://dcsearch.mine.nu/

[fogelbise]

what kind of speeds are people getting? it sounds like you should be able to get up to the lesser of your download limit or their upload limit...the best you can ask for without multi-sourcing...

it doesn't sound like anyone is really recommending this program outright...am i wrong?

[JohnDoe345]

Originally posted by pod


But if you are on hub A, and want to download something from a user on hub B, you also have to be on hub B. Which means the other user can also download from you. No? I assume DC++ works by connecting to multiple hubs simultaneously. DC++ is not liked because, well, just because it's DC++, or maybe because someone things it does something to make sharing less effective for non-DC++ users.

Well, what I assumed was that DC++ people could download off users in other hubs too and not just the one they are in. But if that were true then everyone would be using it because it would be like Morpheus.

I now think the reason why admins don't like DC++ is because it allows users to search other hubs, so if the users find what they want in a different hub then they would go there. The admins don't like you leaving because you would be taking all of your files away. But I'm still new to DC so anyone with more experience please shed some light onto the subject.


fogelbise,

From my experience DC isn't that great for large files like movies since there is no multi-sourcing. Most broadband users have a cap of around 128kbps, but what makes it worst is that many hubs require you share more then 1 upload slot. This just further divides all uploads speeds.

Also, in your case you wouldn't be allowed into most hubs because a lot of them require you to share 10gigs and up. DC can be a nice program but there are a handful of negative things about it that's keeping it from becoming mainstream. Although, if you find a hub that caters to the type of files you like then you're in file heaven. We are talking about TB amounts data from just 200 or more users I think of DC as an extra p2p program I use rather then the main one.

[phateboard]

direct connect is my favorite program so far, i dont really download music so all i use it for is downloading big rare files like episodes and movies and games, i usually get around 15-20 k a sec average and if i leave it on at night then ill have the rare/big file by mourning, not to mention it has all the leaked beta's of games, i get better speeds on it than edonkey(you have to manage your files alittle more tho) ive been using direct connect for a while, the only downside to it is its buggy on my computer(i use xp)so i switched to dc++ and in 3 days i was able to download 3 movies 2 games and windows 2000 all iso's (games and windows2000) the reason i was told that hub owners dont like dc++ is that its easyer to cheat with(pretend you are sharing 40 gigs and actually share nothing) but you can do that with regular direct connect so i think thattheir just to dedicated to diect connect to switch, i bet some of them havent even tried dc++.