Your guesses on what Morpheus 2.0 will be like - P2P-Zone

napho · 26-02-02, 02:37 PM

Assuming there'll be one.
It's supposed to include gnutella support but who knows.
There's bound to be an upgraded ad bar.
Also I just saw this on the Grokster site.

You may now use your Grokster program to surf the web anonymously! Many users have asked us to include browsing functionality within the Grokster program and now we have done so! And it protects your anonymity also!

Grokster has partnered with Guardster to provide its users with the ability to use the Grokster program to search the web. This makes it easy to monitor your file sharing and surf at the same time easily. And best of all this is free!

Another benefit of the Grokster - Guardster web browser is that all surfing is done anonymously! See these important features:

Guardster hides your computer's unique IP address from web sites and other outside parties, so they cannot see you.

Guardster stops Cookies, Java, JavaScript, ActiveX, Web Bugs and other browsing threats.

Guardster removes privacy and security threats from web pages before serving them to you.

Whenever you start up Grokster, the new Guardster anonymous browsing tool is at the top of the Grokster Start page.

Smoketoomuch · 26-02-02, 02:45 PM

A fine browser - definitely not IE - should do that. It is somewhat ironic, that Grokster uses IE and another program that fills the security gaps of IE. IF (and I mean this a big IF) it does what it says. Question is: what they take in return? I guess Guardster is no charity work. Btw, this whole things seems a bit shady to me.

Millencolin · 26-02-02, 02:45 PM

Wow! this sounds like a grrrrrreat! program. could ya post the link so i could get the program?

goldie · 26-02-02, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by napho
Assuming there'll be one.
It's supposed to include gnutella support but who knows.
There's bound to be an upgraded ad bar.
Also I just saw this on the Grokster site.

You may now use your Grokster program to surf the web anonymously! Many users have asked us to include browsing functionality within the Grokster program and now we have done so! And it protects your anonymity also!

Grokster has partnered with Guardster to provide its users with the ability to use the Grokster program to search the web. This makes it easy to monitor your file sharing and surf at the same time easily. And best of all this is free!

Another benefit of the Grokster - Guardster web browser is that all surfing is done anonymously! See these important features:

Guardster hides your computer's unique IP address from web sites and other outside parties, so they cannot see you.

Guardster stops Cookies, Java, JavaScript, ActiveX, Web Bugs and other browsing threats.

Guardster removes privacy and security threats from web pages before serving them to you.

Whenever you start up Grokster, the new Guardster anonymous browsing tool is at the top of the Grokster Start page.

Hmmmm...........just an initial first impression of sorts.

Whacha think Napho? Looks a bit like a heavy, bloated interface perhaps?!

Won't stop me from taking my kazaa clone version for a quick test drive and an even quicker uninstall if things seem a bit spooky

My main question would be; $$What$$ do "they" $$gain$$ from $$providing$$ these $$valuable$$ free(?) $$services$$?

There's a string or two in there somewhere we should all be made aware of, huh?

Consumer Beware!

goldie · 26-02-02, 03:10 PM

Instead of all those 3rd party websites getting their dirty little hands on your surfing/dling/cookie habits - GROKSTER gets first digs by intercepting the data from you and passing it on to THEIR advertisers which in turn get first class data from users and Grokster gets paid - HAha - yea, that's it - yea - HAha!!

"They're coming to take me away Haha, they're coming to take me away"!!!

napho · 26-02-02, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goldenrod

Hmmmm...........just an initial first impression of sorts.

Whacha think Napho? Looks a bit like a heavy, bloated interface perhaps?!

Won't stop me from taking my kazaa clone version for a quick test drive and an even quicker uninstall if things seem a bit spooky

My main question would be; $$What$$ do "they" $$gain$$ from $$providing$$ these $$valuable$$ free(?) $$services$$?

There's a string or two in there somewhere we should all be made aware of, huh?

Consumer Beware!

I got Aimster over a year ago. It was a simple effective program, gradually they piled one thing on top of another til it didn't work for many people, then they shut down their forums.

Wow! this sounds like a grrrrrreat! program. could ya post the link so i could get the program- here it is Millencolin

http://www.grokster.com

Smoketoomuch · 26-02-02, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goldenrod
Instead of all those 3rd party websites getting their dirty little hands on your surfing/dling/cookie habits - GROKSTER gets first digs by intercepting the data from you and passing it on to THEIR advertisers which in turn get first class data from users and Grokster gets paid - HAha - yea, that's it - yea - HAha!!

"They're coming to take me away Haha, they're coming to take me away"!!!

yes yes yes - you are RIGHT! - they catching outgoing personal data, store it on your disk, and when you go to toilet they send it to grogster. They "protect" you in the sense, that you can check which companies know everything about you by seeing what spyware grokster is bundled with, then see which companies are contractors to that spyware. Its better to know that only contractors of Gator, Cydoor and whatever know everything about you and not anyone who just wants to.

ps. run for you life Goldie, run run run

JackSpratts · 26-02-02, 04:36 PM

i wonder if you can use their browser to d/l files using a browser based app, like this one for instance (there are others), and therefore doing so anonymously. that would be interesting. grokster might have your ip address but they might not know what you d/l'd. the people who know what you d/l'd wouldn't have your address. i like it. not sure the riaa would enjoy it all that much or china or any gov't for that matter, but it has possibilities.

- js.

pod · 26-02-02, 05:04 PM

The idea of a distributed/anonymous browser is not all that new. Cult of Dead Cow (http://www.cultdeadcow.com/) has come back from the dead (so to speak) and revealed development of an anonymous browsing network.

The idea in a nutshell is this: everyone who wants to participate runs a node, which is really an http proxy. Very much like FreeNet, a browser sends a request to the network, and it gets passed node to node, until someone decides to actually fetch the request. The result is then passed back until it gets to the requesting node. Unlike FreeNet, content is not restricted only to what's hosted on the FreeNet nodes themselves.

If you're thinking this is slow, you're right. Anyone who has used FreeNet will know what I'm talking about. And as a result of the technical hoop jumping, you won't be able to do anything fancy, don't expect your Hotmail to work over this.

Millencolin · 26-02-02, 08:14 PM

Thanks napho

Dawn · 26-02-02, 08:20 PM

Yes, napho does tend to be helpful

26-02-02, 02:37 PM	#1
napho Dawn's private genie Join Date: May 2001 Location: the Canadian wasteland Posts: 4,461	Your guesses on what Morpheus 2.0 will be like Assuming there'll be one. It's supposed to include gnutella support but who knows. There's bound to be an upgraded ad bar. Also I just saw this on the Grokster site. You may now use your Grokster program to surf the web anonymously! Many users have asked us to include browsing functionality within the Grokster program and now we have done so! And it protects your anonymity also! Grokster has partnered with Guardster to provide its users with the ability to use the Grokster program to search the web. This makes it easy to monitor your file sharing and surf at the same time easily. And best of all this is free! Another benefit of the Grokster - Guardster web browser is that all surfing is done anonymously! See these important features: Guardster hides your computer's unique IP address from web sites and other outside parties, so they cannot see you. Guardster stops Cookies, Java, JavaScript, ActiveX, Web Bugs and other browsing threats. Guardster removes privacy and security threats from web pages before serving them to you. Whenever you start up Grokster, the new Guardster anonymous browsing tool is at the top of the Grokster Start page.

26-02-02, 02:45 PM	#2
Smoketoomuch freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hungary Posts: 906	A fine browser - definitely not IE - should do that. It is somewhat ironic, that Grokster uses IE and another program that fills the security gaps of IE. IF (and I mean this a big IF) it does what it says. Question is: what they take in return? I guess Guardster is no charity work. Btw, this whole things seems a bit shady to me. __________________ "If you open your mind too wide, people would throw trash in it"

26-02-02, 03:10 PM	#5
goldie yea, it's me. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: usa Posts: 2,093	I think I've got it!! Instead of all those 3rd party websites getting their dirty little hands on your surfing/dling/cookie habits - GROKSTER gets first digs by intercepting the data from you and passing it on to THEIR advertisers which in turn get first class data from users and Grokster gets paid - HAha - yea, that's it - yea - HAha!! "They're coming to take me away Haha, they're coming to take me away"!!!

26-02-02, 08:20 PM	#11
Dawn R.I.P napho 1-31-16 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Venus Posts: 16,723	Yes, napho does tend to be helpful __________________ I love you napho and I will weep forever..........

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26-02-02, 02:45 PM	#3
Millencolin Can you see me now? ....Good Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New York Posts: 1,031	Wow! this sounds like a grrrrrreat! program. could ya post the link so i could get the program?

26-02-02, 04:36 PM	#8
JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,017	i wonder if you can use their browser to d/l files using a browser based app, like this one for instance (there are others), and therefore doing so anonymously. that would be interesting. grokster might have your ip address but they might not know what you d/l'd. the people who know what you d/l'd wouldn't have your address. i like it. not sure the riaa would enjoy it all that much or china or any gov't for that matter, but it has possibilities. - js.

26-02-02, 05:04 PM	#9
pod Bumbling idiot Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, CA Posts: 787	The idea of a distributed/anonymous browser is not all that new. Cult of Dead Cow (http://www.cultdeadcow.com/) has come back from the dead (so to speak) and revealed development of an anonymous browsing network. The idea in a nutshell is this: everyone who wants to participate runs a node, which is really an http proxy. Very much like FreeNet, a browser sends a request to the network, and it gets passed node to node, until someone decides to actually fetch the request. The result is then passed back until it gets to the requesting node. Unlike FreeNet, content is not restricted only to what's hosted on the FreeNet nodes themselves. If you're thinking this is slow, you're right. Anyone who has used FreeNet will know what I'm talking about. And as a result of the technical hoop jumping, you won't be able to do anything fancy, don't expect your Hotmail to work over this.

26-02-02, 08:14 PM	#10
Millencolin Can you see me now? ....Good Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New York Posts: 1,031	Thanks napho