The Latest on Copy Protection - P2P-Zone

RDixon · 12-02-02, 12:06 PM

Guess they figure this is their only hope in stopping peer 2 peer music sharing. Personaly I believe their thinking is flawed. I doubt it will work.
http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?1261

JackSpratts · 12-02-02, 12:24 PM

Gary Warzin, president & CEO of Audiophile Systems asserts that both Universal's protection scheme and Sony's key2audio system are easily circumvented and may actually be achieving the opposite of the desired effect.

"With some additional experimentation, I was able, by the end of the following day, to produce perfect MP3 files directly from the original disc without the use of any specialized software utilities. All that was required was a bit of trial and error tweaking of the settings in the popular (and free) MusicMatch MP3 Jukebox software and 39¢ worth of supplies available at any office supply store.(!) The resultant MP3 files were, by the way, dramatically superior to those supplied by Universal for playback by unsuspecting computer users."

hey warzin don't be shy lol. spit it out man, i've got 39¢ & i live near a staples!

- js.

multi · 12-02-02, 01:16 PM

looks like craps hitting the fan in japan

Recording industry battles online music trade

Satoshi Toi

Monday, February 11, 2002 at 09:30 JST
TOKYO — A battle between online music-swapping service providers and the music industry in Japan is intensifying, with the industry alleging that free-of-charge sharing of digital copies of music is illegal and vowing to crack down on it.

"Music is being stolen. We will have to take self-defense measures to protect the foundation of the music industry from damage spreading like a pyramiding scheme," said Isamu Tomizuka, chairman of the Recording Industry Association of Japan.

Last November, MMO Japan Ltd, an operator of an online file-swapping service, put on the domestic market the File Rogue software, enabling subscribers to retrieve songs in Japanese free of charge, shocking the music industry.

The association said music record output in 1998 was valued at 607.4 billion yen but was down to 503 billion yen last year, with the number of compact disk (CD) singles plunging 21% from the previous year.

The Japanese Society for the Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers, and a group of 19 record companies asked the Tokyo District Court late last month for an injunction barring MMO Japan from handling music files digitally copied from copyrighted software.

The music industry is also studying selling CDs equipped with a copy-prevention function, something that is already used in parts of North America and Europe. Special signals will be put in CDs to prevent them being copied in personal computers.

Recording of CDs onto cassette tape recorders will be possible, but not digital recording on hard disks and other devices, according to the industry. "We are studying introducing various technologies," said Toshiba-EMI Ltd, a major record label. The new CDs are expected to be on the market by the end of the year.

There are also moves to protect TV images, where various rights of scriptwriters, performers, musicians and others are involved.

To prepare for digitalization of TV signals in the fall of next year, Japan Broadcasting Corp (NHK) and TV stations belonging to the National Association of Commercial Broadcasters in Japan are studying a technology called "copy-once." With this technology, involving special signals in TV waves, recording can be done only once.

The TV stations are already in consultations with electrical appliance manufacturers, and the Information and Communications Council of the Ministry of Public Management, Home Affairs, Posts and Telecommunications will draw a conclusion this October.

"Copy-once" is also adopted in digital broadcasting for a fee, but the Department of Legal and Business Affairs of Tokyo Broadcasting System Inc (TBS) said the company, as a free-of-charge broadcaster, "will fully discuss disadvantages for audiences and make them well-known."

The popularization of broadband services, which enable exchange of massive amounts of information on the Internet at high speeds, makes it much easier to copy and share things such as music and video images digitally.

The telecommunications ministry said the number of subscribers to digital subscriber lines (DSL) topped 1.5 million in the last year, backed by the government's "e-Japan priority program" aimed at turning Japan into an information technology superpower.

Following global moves to protect digital content, a law allowing disclosure of information about copyright violators will become effective by this May.

Hisamichi Okamura, a lecturer at Kinki University who is well versed in Net copyrights, said, "Copyright protection is an urgent task, but excessive protection allowing no copying may damage the functioning of society, which grows with impartiality and imitation."

"The development of arts and culture requires a balanced protection of copyright holders and those enjoying their work," Okamura said. (Kyodo News)

they(musiccorpsesbosses)all ways say that!
-miuf

hirco · 15-02-02, 10:59 AM

Copy-protected CDs slide into stores

Israeli security company Midbar said Tuesday that it has released more than 10 million copy-protected CDs in the United States and Europe, highlighting the company's ongoing endeavor to combat digital piracy.
Midbar said its technology, dubbed Cactus Data Shield, prevents people from illegally reproducing music without altering the sound quality. Midbar said the announcement, which did not indicate a time frame for the releases, includes CDs protected with its latest technology, which allows discs to be played on a CD player or a PC, resolving previous playability issues.

The announcement shows that digital rights management companies and record labels are aggressively pursuing copy-protection plans--even though most anti-piracy technologies are still in an experimental phase. Last year, for instance, record giant BMG Entertainment began testing technologies from security companies including Midbar, Macrovision and SunnComm. But the label's attempt to release discs protected by Midbar's technology in Germany led to consumer complaints that the CDs would not work on their players and forced BMG to abandon that project.

It is unclear how many people have purchased copy-protected discs. P.J. McNealy, research director for GartnerG2, a division of the Gartner research firm, noted that although more than 10 million CDs have been released in the market, it "still doesn't mean 10 million have been bought" or that the technology has been perfected.

Midbar says it is continuing to upgrade its technology.

"It's been an exciting year, packed with great achievements as well as useful learning experiences," Noam Zur, vice president of sales and marketing at Midbar, said in a statement. "We will continue to upgrade this already proven technology as we embark on the path to the next milestone."

The Bottom Line
They can hide music in cans of beans or inside corn flakes it dosnt matter because if you can hear it, you can rip it. that will never change

hircos

theknife · 16-02-02, 01:34 PM

They can hide music in cans of beans or inside corn flakes it dosnt matter because if you can hear it, you can rip it. that will never change

That is flat-out, hands-down the best, most succinct, telling, right-on-the-button, hit-the-nail-on-the-head line I have ever seen on this subject

Hircos, was that your comment or part of the article you cited?

multi · 16-02-02, 08:08 PM

even if they COULD encode music on to a bean or a corn flake
theres no way there going to fit in my cdr -hee hee

ripping music from the music shows(their one place for ad-brain-vert-washing\izing our kids) would be much easier........
have made a few songs up from the breakfast music shows while eating cornflakes tho?

could get quality ok if reception is good

12-02-02, 12:06 PM	#1
RDixon Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 3,742	The Latest on Copy Protection Guess they figure this is their only hope in stopping peer 2 peer music sharing. Personaly I believe their thinking is flawed. I doubt it will work. http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?1261 __________________ Pay no attention to albed. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

12-02-02, 01:16 PM	#3
multi Thanks for being with arse Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The other side of the world Posts: 10,343	looks like craps hitting the fan in japan Recording industry battles online music trade Satoshi Toi Monday, February 11, 2002 at 09:30 JST TOKYO — A battle between online music-swapping service providers and the music industry in Japan is intensifying, with the industry alleging that free-of-charge sharing of digital copies of music is illegal and vowing to crack down on it. "Music is being stolen. We will have to take self-defense measures to protect the foundation of the music industry from damage spreading like a pyramiding scheme," said Isamu Tomizuka, chairman of the Recording Industry Association of Japan. Last November, MMO Japan Ltd, an operator of an online file-swapping service, put on the domestic market the File Rogue software, enabling subscribers to retrieve songs in Japanese free of charge, shocking the music industry. The association said music record output in 1998 was valued at 607.4 billion yen but was down to 503 billion yen last year, with the number of compact disk (CD) singles plunging 21% from the previous year. The Japanese Society for the Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers, and a group of 19 record companies asked the Tokyo District Court late last month for an injunction barring MMO Japan from handling music files digitally copied from copyrighted software. The music industry is also studying selling CDs equipped with a copy-prevention function, something that is already used in parts of North America and Europe. Special signals will be put in CDs to prevent them being copied in personal computers. Recording of CDs onto cassette tape recorders will be possible, but not digital recording on hard disks and other devices, according to the industry. "We are studying introducing various technologies," said Toshiba-EMI Ltd, a major record label. The new CDs are expected to be on the market by the end of the year. There are also moves to protect TV images, where various rights of scriptwriters, performers, musicians and others are involved. To prepare for digitalization of TV signals in the fall of next year, Japan Broadcasting Corp (NHK) and TV stations belonging to the National Association of Commercial Broadcasters in Japan are studying a technology called "copy-once." With this technology, involving special signals in TV waves, recording can be done only once. The TV stations are already in consultations with electrical appliance manufacturers, and the Information and Communications Council of the Ministry of Public Management, Home Affairs, Posts and Telecommunications will draw a conclusion this October. "Copy-once" is also adopted in digital broadcasting for a fee, but the Department of Legal and Business Affairs of Tokyo Broadcasting System Inc (TBS) said the company, as a free-of-charge broadcaster, "will fully discuss disadvantages for audiences and make them well-known." The popularization of broadband services, which enable exchange of massive amounts of information on the Internet at high speeds, makes it much easier to copy and share things such as music and video images digitally. The telecommunications ministry said the number of subscribers to digital subscriber lines (DSL) topped 1.5 million in the last year, backed by the government's "e-Japan priority program" aimed at turning Japan into an information technology superpower. Following global moves to protect digital content, a law allowing disclosure of information about copyright violators will become effective by this May. Hisamichi Okamura, a lecturer at Kinki University who is well versed in Net copyrights, said, "Copyright protection is an urgent task, but excessive protection allowing no copying may damage the functioning of society, which grows with impartiality and imitation." "The development of arts and culture requires a balanced protection of copyright holders and those enjoying their work," Okamura said. (Kyodo News) they(musiccorpsesbosses)all ways say that! -miuf __________________ i beat the internet - the end boss is hard Secret Temple of It

16-02-02, 08:08 PM	#6
multi Thanks for being with arse Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The other side of the world Posts: 10,343	even if they COULD encode music on to a bean or a corn flake theres no way there going to fit in my cdr -hee hee ripping music from the music shows(their one place for ad-brain-vert-washing\izing our kids) would be much easier........ have made a few songs up from the breakfast music shows while eating cornflakes tho? could get quality ok if reception is good __________________ i beat the internet - the end boss is hard Secret Temple of It

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12-02-02, 12:24 PM	#2
JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,017	Gary Warzin, president & CEO of Audiophile Systems asserts that both Universal's protection scheme and Sony's key2audio system are easily circumvented and may actually be achieving the opposite of the desired effect. "With some additional experimentation, I was able, by the end of the following day, to produce perfect MP3 files directly from the original disc without the use of any specialized software utilities. All that was required was a bit of trial and error tweaking of the settings in the popular (and free) MusicMatch MP3 Jukebox software and 39¢ worth of supplies available at any office supply store.(!) The resultant MP3 files were, by the way, dramatically superior to those supplied by Universal for playback by unsuspecting computer users." hey warzin don't be shy lol. spit it out man, i've got 39¢ & i live near a staples! - js.

15-02-02, 10:59 AM	#4
hirco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 88	Copy-protected CDs slide into stores Israeli security company Midbar said Tuesday that it has released more than 10 million copy-protected CDs in the United States and Europe, highlighting the company's ongoing endeavor to combat digital piracy. Midbar said its technology, dubbed Cactus Data Shield, prevents people from illegally reproducing music without altering the sound quality. Midbar said the announcement, which did not indicate a time frame for the releases, includes CDs protected with its latest technology, which allows discs to be played on a CD player or a PC, resolving previous playability issues. The announcement shows that digital rights management companies and record labels are aggressively pursuing copy-protection plans--even though most anti-piracy technologies are still in an experimental phase. Last year, for instance, record giant BMG Entertainment began testing technologies from security companies including Midbar, Macrovision and SunnComm. But the label's attempt to release discs protected by Midbar's technology in Germany led to consumer complaints that the CDs would not work on their players and forced BMG to abandon that project. It is unclear how many people have purchased copy-protected discs. P.J. McNealy, research director for GartnerG2, a division of the Gartner research firm, noted that although more than 10 million CDs have been released in the market, it "still doesn't mean 10 million have been bought" or that the technology has been perfected. Midbar says it is continuing to upgrade its technology. "It's been an exciting year, packed with great achievements as well as useful learning experiences," Noam Zur, vice president of sales and marketing at Midbar, said in a statement. "We will continue to upgrade this already proven technology as we embark on the path to the next milestone." The Bottom Line They can hide music in cans of beans or inside corn flakes it dosnt matter because if you can hear it, you can rip it. that will never change hircos

16-02-02, 01:34 PM	#5
theknife my name is Ranking Fullstop Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Promontorium Tremendum Posts: 4,391	They can hide music in cans of beans or inside corn flakes it dosnt matter because if you can hear it, you can rip it. that will never change That is flat-out, hands-down the best, most succinct, telling, right-on-the-button, hit-the-nail-on-the-head line I have ever seen on this subject Hircos, was that your comment or part of the article you cited?