And God Said Let There Be Smiting

[TankGirl]

Originally Posted by Sinner

Please explain yourself. How is Saddam more American then Cheney and are you saying you would rather have someone like Saddam as you leader? This is the Problem with liberals, a fellow AMERICAN is attacked and could have been killed and they think it is a good thing, please explain your post because you sound like a liberial nut extremeist when you say something like this.

Maybe it's more like why many Germans have thought and continue to think that it would have been better both for their own country and for the whole humanity if one of the attempts on Hitler's life would have been succesful. Such wishes may be extereme but they are not necessarily unpatriotic - they may stem from the simple humane wish to get rid of disasterous leaders that are taking one's country towards an obvious catastrophe for highly dubious reasons (like oil industry profits).

[albed]

Originally Posted by TankGirl

Maybe it's more like why many blah blah blah...

And maybe it's more like you don't know wtf's going on in dixies sick little head and you're just using him to channel your own opinions like a cowardly eurosnob.



If you have something to say about the U.S. then say it yourself instead of hiding behind some pathetic little freak.

[Sinner]

Ok – I will not even spend a second of my time discussing Nazi Germany, it is completely irrelevant,

Quote-- disasterous leaders that are taking one's country towards an obvious catastrophe for highly dubious reasons (like oil industry profits).


Oh please, the only reason it will be catastrophe is because unfortunately, there are weasels on both sides of the aisle in Washington that care more about their power than the country’s survival. Joe Lieberman asked in The Wall Street Journal, what ultimately matters more to us, the real fight over there or the political fight over here? Americans will have to answer that question.

From CNN -- we have gotten so fat and lazy, we haven’t been asked to sacrifice anything in this war since 9/11, and the fact that we have a volunteer army has allowed us to fight this war from our living rooms and to delude ourselves into believing that we can stop fighting this war any time we want. Wrong. We can’t. We’ve got to finish it. Kill them before they kill us, and here how I got there.

You know, it seems kind of weird to me that we have forgotten that this war is still going on in Afghanistan. Even more bizarre is our collective belief that we won that war, which is wholly untrue, and that we lost the war in Iraq and that we should leave, which is also wholly untrue.

There’s only one war going on, and that’s the war against Islamic extremism. And the final outcome is far from being decided. It was started by our enemies, not on 9/11, but in Beirut during the Reagan administration, and we’ve been making mistakes and denying it ever since. It’s been going on ever since, and it’s happening in Afghanistan. It’s happening in Iraq, and soon it will be happening in Iran or right here at home.

We have no choice. The only way to stop this war from spreading over the whole globe is to fight it to win, but we’re running out of time.

Problem is the USA does not fight wars to win any more, Republicans and Democrats, what is happening in Congress is all the proof you need, The USA will lose these Wars going on because the people in Washington are more concerned about their jobs then what is best for the Country. Do you want to have real courage and fight to win or do you cut the funding and pull out? They beat the Russians in the 80’s and Washington seems to want them to beat the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan. How do you think the Muslim extremists are going to feel? Knowing they defeated not one but to two super powers.

The USA better fix the border problem quick.

[theknife]

Originally Posted by Sinner

Problem is the USA does not fight wars to win any more, Republicans and Democrats, what is happening in Congress is all the proof you need, The USA will lose these Wars going on because the people in Washington are more concerned about their jobs then what is best for the Country. Do you want to have real courage and fight to win or do you cut the funding and pull out? They beat the Russians in the 80’s and Washington seems to want them to beat the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan. How do you think the Muslim extremists are going to feel? Knowing they defeated not one but to two super powers.

The USA better fix the border problem quick.

all the Muslim extremists had to do to win, in both cases, was not lose.

perhaps the problem begins with declaring war on a concept, for which there are no clear metrics to define victory, let alone achieve it. "war on poverty", "war on drugs", "war on terror", "war on Islamic fundamentalism" - fundamentally doomed concepts and blanks checks for government excess, each and every one.

[albed]

That's called "politics" not "war" and it's just a way of manipulating the simpletons, not defending the country. And if you don't understand what victory is than no "metric" will help you.


Blank checks my ass. Whatever happened to the "overstretched" military without the funds to do its job, equip its soldiers, etc?

[theknife]

Originally Posted by albed

That's called "politics" not "war" and it's just a way of manipulating the simpletons, not defending the country. And if you don't understand what victory is than no "metric" will help you.

really? we committed the military to the "war on terror" - that's war. so, define victory for us - specifically. and if you can't provide a metric - a clearly defined achievable, measurable set of objectives - then don't bother. because that means you don't know what "victory" is either.

[albed]

http://www.answers.com/victory&r=67

vic·to·ry (vĭk'tə-rē) pronunciation
n., pl. -ries.

1. Defeat of an enemy or opponent.
2. Success in a struggle against difficulties or an obstacle.
3. The state of having triumphed.

Are you really so screwed up by liberal propaganda that you can't even understand basic concepts anymore?

[pisser]

Hey,
If both bush and cheney got taken out, the country would have a woman pres.

That would stir up your infected intestines now albed, wouldn't it?