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Dont Let Vladd Take Your WinMX

Below you will see our petition to stop Vladd from taking over your WinMX. This is a statement from WinMX World on behalf of the real owners of WinMX, the users. Please note that the quotes below are taken from a document of a meeting of Operation PIE.


Vladd
We petition you to take a greater look at your actions. Please think of the good of WinMX and not the glory of yourself. We petition you to stop allowing the planning of attacks on the ws2_32.dll or any other means KM releases that allows users to connect. We petition you to also stop the planing of this take over of WinMX to change it into your personal p2p ie: PieMX. Its in the interest of WinMX that you reconsider your actions and take a look at your motives. This program doesnt belong to you, or any ONE individual. WinMX belongs to the users. Your actions and lack of actions would give way for users to think that your intentions are to take somthing that does not belong to you, and to destroy any one that doesnt fit into your PIE Patch agenda, and team. It is the position of WinMX World that you have no rights to take WinMX and make decisions that effect the entire user base with out their consent or knowledge. Control of WinMX no more belongs to Vladd44.com or Operation PIE then it does to WinMX World or WinMX Group.


[15:06] Vladd44: our end of the line date for everything being ready on the push is oct 31st, i want to start pushing b4 then, but thats when everything must be in full effect

[15:06] Nobby: yes Sabre, i do agree i have discussed begining some press releases with Vladd, but we will need to be assured the peer caches can take any increased demand first
[15:07] Vladd44: if we push the numbers and we cant handle them, we are in trouble, and will never recover
[15:07] Gemini777: agreed
[15:07] Jimmy: or a hit from the .dll servers too
[15:07] Vladd44: so we have to be ready when it happens
[15:07] Nobby: perhaps Sabre can update us as to where we are, i for one would like to ear him have the floor for a min or 2?
[15:07] Ranma?: i'm working on udp validation. if we manage to get it working we should be able to handle more queries
[15:07] Nobby: hear*
[15:07] Vladd44: which also means getting that dll off of more peoples comps

[15:08] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): we need to put on V's site to tell ppl to remove the dll patch
[15:09] Vladd44: almost 10,000 people downloaded piepatch 2.6 from me at days end yesterday
[15:09] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): but implications of that?
[15:09] Vladd44: so in 24 hours another 10,000 people got it from site

[15:09] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): ppl r using pie patch fine ... they all get the info and many look in for updates
[15:10] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): but the official word needs to go out to stop using KM's patch
[15:10] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): like on the front page

[15:10] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): but seriously like what Matt said we need to get KM's patch off his site or something as drastic as that to stop ppl from using it.

[15:14] Vladd44: if in doubt, and they cant host a peer cache send them to research
[15:15] Vladd44: bc thats the 2 things we need in place to bury this
[15:15] Vladd44: we need more people running peer caches
[15:15] Vladd44: and we need more places to post about JesusMX :P

[15:25] Vladd44: thats after the 30 day period of recovery
[15:25] Vladd44: we have to keep enough of a userbase to make a built in migration

[15:28] Nobby: this will help me and other team members work out how the fuck to reach 8 million ppl
[15:28] Nobby: i do ofc understand the tech guys must be prepared for this first

[15:28] Nobby: i have ideas, but we need more
[15:29] Nobby: this is bigger than most of u could imagine
[15:29] Nobby: no disrespect indended

[15:48] SABre'911: (sorry, gathering thoughts, lost them)
[15:48] SABre'911: I have asked hollow, who I think is overloaded at present, for a Search and Destory of ws2_32.dll to be added to the next installer.
[15:48] Vladd44: yes
[15:49] Vladd44: it needs to go

[15:49] SABre'911: The 2.7 version of the host file well have at least 1 or 2 new caches in it, and probably remove KM's caches.

[15:50] Vladd44: i have mixed views about pulling all of his servers out
[15:50] SABre'911: I dont.
[15:50] Vladd44: lol
[15:50] Vladd44: i was speaking from political terms
[15:50] SABre'911: It was already stated ``I didnt do it the winmx way''.

[15:52] Vladd44: people will go to where they know
[15:52] Vladd44: and a lot of people know v44
[15:52] Vladd44: and love is building a rep on help
[15:52] Vladd44: but we need to get more involved in helping
[15:52] Vladd44: thats the key
[15:53] Vladd44: i will start trying to crack a whip

[16:07] Vladd44: no reason to argue battles that breaking even is winning
[16:07] Vladd44: its pointless
[16:07] Vladd44: not on the forum
[16:07] Vladd44: in a channel
[16:07] Vladd44: on a street corner
[16:07] Vladd44: so i implore everyone to abstain
[16:07] Vladd44: simply ignore it
[16:07] Vladd44: if someone is wrong it will bear out
[16:07] Vladd44: you dont need to prove them wrong
[16:08] Vladd44: its lose lose
[16:08] Jimmy: do not boot them
[16:08] Camille Le On: or ban
[16:08] Vladd44: that would be admitting you heard them
[16:08] Jimmy: we have a plan
[16:08] Vladd44: people do not talk to walls
[16:08] SABre'911: lmfao some do
[16:08] Vladd44: lol true
[16:08] Jimmy: thier plan is to disturb our plan

[16:08] Jimmy: that's all they have
[16:08] Vladd44: just go forward
[16:09] Vladd44: look to the agenda you have
[16:09] Vladd44: the reasons you are doing this
[16:09] Vladd44: each of us is doing this for their own set of reasons, most of us are just to stubborn to walk away
[16:09] SABre'911: ``I must hijack winmx'' Oh, wait, already done... next!
[16:09] Vladd44: dont get sidetracked by someone else

[16:10] Sable: whats wrong with hijacking winmx ?
[16:10] Sable: freon hijacked TSC and i dit LVHC lol
[16:10] Nobby: how far are u prepared to go with that Vladd, i cant allow too much bad PR to the ppl, as i said earlier

[16:13] Nobby: this is more important than a name, its almost a corporate identity, excuse the phrase, but from a pr point of view, its crucial
[16:13] Gemini777: lol
[16:13] Sable: i vote for sabmx )
[16:14] Sable: piemx
[16:14] Vladd44: nah
[16:14] Vladd44: not piemx
[16:14] Vladd44: MXpie
[16:14] Sable:
[16:14] Nobby: we already have an identity, go with it, it will score with public support
[16:14] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): it must start with winmx or mx
[16:14] SABre'911: Carefull of trademark
[16:14] Nobby: im with MXpie
[16:14] Subhuman_Bob: if we change the name, then why are we trying to save WinMX? We may as well start over from scratch, whcih is what a name change would be. People use WinMX because they've heard of it.
[16:14] Sable: PieMX
[16:15] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): I like it ... MXPie or MXpie?
[16:15] K?I???'?.: hijackMX
[16:15] Sable: lol
[16:15] *** JIM-921 has left the conversation.
[16:15] Vladd44: if there is a clone, or update bob, it cant be named winmx
[16:15] Nobby: because Bob, we ae now our own entity
[16:15] Vladd44: ok
[16:15] Vladd44: well i like MXpie
[16:15] Vladd44: but thats just me
[16:15] Vladd44: or MXPie
[16:15] Nobby: MXpie, is my vote
[16:15] Vladd44: i wasnt taking a vote :P

[16:16] K?I???'?.: i vote with the majority
[16:17] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): hey we get them to use it first ... THEN we tell them the origin of it
[16:17] Nobby: thats 6, 1 more
[16:17] Camille Le On: you got to get them to trust it first
[16:17] Camille Le On: users are like sheep
[16:17] Camille Le On: they stick to what they know

[16:36] * Vladd44 seriously any objects to this being available?
[16:36] SABre'911: Nope
[16:36] Vladd44: its going to be available anyway
[16:36] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): mass distribute it
[16:36] SABre'911: we should not be able to be branded as working behind closed doors.
[16:36] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): more ppl need to know what we r doing.
[16:36] Vladd44: agreed sabre
[16:36] Gemini777: agreed sabre
[16:36] Subhuman_Bob: I don't think anything was said that people shouldn't hear
[16:36] Camille Le On: true
[16:36] Camille Le On: so share it
[16:36] Nobby: 100%
[16:36] Camille Le On: let them see it
[16:37] Vladd44: ok
[16:37] Subhuman_Bob: if people want to accuse us of hiding things, they'll just claim the logs were edited before they were posted.
[16:37] Vladd44: then i am done

I hope that all of the readers here see exactly what your trying to do, and realize that no one group should be in control of WinMX, proven by your own words here. For anyone that wants to read this entire text document or feels we may have taken the above quotes out of context I invite you to download the document itself, made public at
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Incase they had second thoughts about editing this document its been also uploaded to here:
Transcript
Feel free to compare the creation dates to verify we have not edited this. Feel free to ask Vladd yourself, we did and he states that this tracscript is correct.
Please send your opinions of this to vladd44@vladd44.com and help us tell him he can not have mx for himself. Or post your views here:
Open Letter To Vladd


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[JackSpratts]

[16:17] Camille Le On: users are like sheep
[16:17] Camille Le On: they stick to what they know

must be why we're all still using morpheus.

- js.