Valerie Plame leaker identified

[Sinner]

I don't know why Cheney would need one, but if all Sandy Berger got was probation for destroying original classified documents from the National Archives that were critical into the inquiry about 9/11, how could Libby get any thing more? Even if he does he will appeal until 08 and then will receive a pardon.

And Jack isn't it ironic how liberals are pretending that perjury and obstruction of justice suddenly matter?

[JackSpratts]

Originally Posted by Sinner

And Jack isn't it ironic how liberals are pretending that perjury and obstruction of justice suddenly matter?

it certainly matters when you're convicted doesn't it? just ask the wall street journal, or ask the president of the united states, a man whose lack of sympathy for strangers convicted or accused is as legendary as it is brutal.

it may be ironic that many of the strident "law & order" types who wanted clinton destroyed for obscuring an affair between consenting adults want freedom "now" for a man who is guilty of lying to the fbi about a "smear campaign that was orchestrated by his boss against the first person to unmask one of the many untruths that president bush used to justify invading iraq" and that has killed so many.

well, that's really not irony. unfortunately it's business as usual.

and pay no attention to our fouled trolls; we will see how far this goes, and where it leads, and who and how many in the end will seek the pardons so similar to those bush senior handed out like bon-bons to iran-contra felons...

in the meantime, "it was still a breath of fresh air to see someone in this administration, which specializes in secrecy, prevarication and evading blame, finally called to account."

yes it was.

the best is yet to come.

- js.

[albed]

Originally Posted by JackSpratts

who wanted clinton destroyed for obscuring an affair between consenting adults
- js.

So that's what liberals call lying in speeches and perjuring in court, all on videotape - "obscuring".


No bias in their drug shriveled, propaganda saturated minds.

[JackSpratts]

trolling again albed...perjury in this case is a legal term as you well know. something mr. libby is familiar with now that he's been convicted on four of five counts, including perjury and obstruction of justice. after a forty million dollar plus witch hunt, clinton wasn't convicted of anything, so no, he wasn't guilty of perjuring himself in the legal sense. as for the moral sense, when the majority of those practicing fellatio didn't consider the activity "sex" and the question was specifically about sex, the argument that clinton lied ends there as well.

i wondered why the prosecutors simply didn't ask him if he had "physical contact" with the woman, and if so, what variety...they could have done so and had clinton denied it he clearly would have set himself for perjury, although i have my doubts as to whether he would have "obscured" an answer to such a direct question. but it didn't happen and we'll never know. for whatever reason they demurred.

in any event we all knew the genesis of this. it was the continuing attempt by the right and the supreme court to subvert democracy and was itself far more harmful to the republic than any awkward verbal gymnastics clinton may have employed to defend himself and the office of a duly elected president.

in spite of trolls trying continuously to confuse this (and so many other current republican political disasters) with deliberately misleading history lessons on clinton, it is about valerie plame's leakers, where the subversion continues unabated, and with bush and cheney at its head.

of course thanks to bush 1, jr. has better advisors. this man is a sociopath who doesn't understand truth beyond the fact he senses it's dangerous. when the 9/11 commission requested he swear in and testify under oath this president flatly refused.

so i won't call him a perjurer. he isn't one - yet.

for now he's just a liar. the highest in the land.

- js.

[Sinner]

Bill Clinton lied in a civil suit. His purpose was deny justice to Paula Jones. There was about 1500 people then held in federal prisons by the executive branch which he headed for the exact crimes that he committed. A federal judge then ordered President Bill Clinton to pay $90,686 for giving false testimony in the civil sexual harassment lawsuit filed against him by Paula Jones. Clinton did not fight the ruling and agreed to pay the court $1,202 for expenses associated with a deposition and for "reasonable costs incurred by plaintiffs" as a result of his actions. Now The payments were in addition to the $850,000 Clinton paid to Jones to settle her lawsuit.

Again funny how being a liar all of a sudden matters to liberals.

Libby is guilty because he lied in an investigation which the prosecutor already knew was bogus. Why do you think he was not put of trail for outing her? Answer me that.

I also may go back on saying he will receive a pardon because I believe you have to admit guilt to get one. He will be better off getting cleared in an appeal. Why didn’t the judge allow the impeachment of Russert with tape, or allow the defense to call Mitchell to the stand??? But if the appeals fail I guess a pardon is just as good...

[RDixon]

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[RDixon]

How Rove escaped the same fate as Libby.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument...scooter_libby/

[albed]

Originally Posted by JackSpratts

after a forty million dollar plus witch hunt, clinton wasn't convicted of anything,

Being pronounced "not guilty" doesn't mean "innocent" by a long stretch, especially when the pronouncement isn't made by the judicial branch but by a politically dominated institution.

Originally Posted by JackSpratts

when the majority of those practicing fellatio didn't consider the activity "sex" and the question was specifically about sex, the argument that clinton lied ends there as well.

Got a link for that odd conclusion? You have to be really warped to think fellatio isn't sex, so you've got no problem I suppose but are you really in the majority?

Originally Posted by JackSpratts

this man is a sociopath

Liberal Education Hour -
http://www.answers.com/sociopath&r=67

so·ci·o·path (sō'sē-ə-păth', -shē-) pronunciation
n.

One who is affected with a personality disorder marked by antisocial behavior.

Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.

Wow, if that doesn't fit President StickHisDickInAnythingButHillary to a tee.

[malvachat]

Originally Posted by albed

Being pronounced "not guilty" doesn't mean "innocent" by a long stretch

Sorry to tell you it does.
You know why?
Of course you do.
Because you are INNOCENT till proven guilty.

[albed]

The term is "presumed innocent" in this country beerboy.


It means you have to be treated as if innocent, not that you are.