Saddam's Death Sentence Upheld

[albed]

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

We still have, more than ever I suppose, the kind of people who prefer the tranquility of servitude over the contest for freedom.



Do you still have your AOL account knife?

[theknife]

Originally Posted by albed

We still have, more than ever I suppose, the kind of people who prefer the tranquility of servitude over the contest for freedom.

perhaps iraqis might prefer electricity, water, and basic security at this point, no?

[albed]

Originally Posted by theknife

perhaps iraqis might prefer electricity, water, and basic security at this point, no?

Then all they'd have to do is surrender to the rule of the terrorists/insurgents/saboteurs that are destroying their infrastructure.

But they don't.


Maybe you need to go over there and talk some liberal sense into them.

-Explain the convenience of being a gutless ass kisser.

[theknife]

Originally Posted by albed

Then all they'd have to do is surrender to the rule of the terrorists/insurgents/saboteurs that are destroying their infrastructure.

isn't that like Bush-speak, circa 2004? perhaps you haven't heard about the civil war - shall i provide you with links, you know, to bring you up to speed?

[albed]

No, it's my-speak, circa today. And sure, bring me up to speed - Who's head of the opposing government in this "civil war", and what territory to they govern?


And wtf does it have to do with water and electricity?

[theknife]

Originally Posted by albed

No, it's my-speak, circa today. And sure, bring me up to speed - Who's head of the opposing government in this "civil war", and what territory to they govern?

well, no wonder you're confused about civil war - you're not familiar with the defnition:

civil war – noun, a war between political factions or regions within the same country.

[albed]

Once again, name the political factions or regions that are having this "civil war".


When only one government has control of a country and other factions are attempting to overthrow it, it's called an insurgency.

an organized rebellion aimed at overthrowing a constituted government through the use of subversion and armed conflict

[Mazer]

Originally Posted by theknife

perhaps iraqis might prefer electricity, water, and basic security at this point, no?

Wouldn't we all?

They're nice to have after all, and nicer still for the government to provide them to us. But since when have government-mandated services been necessary for survival, or even for comfort? People are perfectly capable of living their own lives and deciding their own level of comfort if you give them half a chance. The vast majority of Iraqis are noncombatants who want nothing to do with the civil war/insurgency (whichever you prefer to call it) nor the ideologies that lead to such. If they hadn't been forced into this situation perhaps they wouldn't lament it so. And they may yet find their own solutions.

If they're willing to help themselves then they deserve our support, and whatever we can do to keep the situation from deteriorating further, we're obligated to do. They're human beings after all, they deserve the chance to earn for themselves the things we've earned for ourselves. In order to give them that chance people must believe that they're actually capable of bettering themselves, and that notion is all too rare these days. What people need more than electricity, water, and basic security is to be treated as adults.