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Server hole lets Win XP preview go free
A security hole in servers run by Conxion, Microsoft's Web hosting partner, allowed people to download a testing version of Windows XP without paying for it for the second time in two weeks. The glitch, reported Monday by people attempting to download the software and confirmed by CNET News.com, underscores ongoing problems Microsoft has encountered in delivering preview versions of the new operating system to more than 100,000 testers. Those people paid between $10 and $20 for the right to get the software. Microsoft launched the Windows XP Preview Program on July 2 and ran into trouble right away. A problem discovered during the first week of the program created a back door that allowed free downloads of Windows XP for about 30 hours before it was patched.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/ne...chkpt=zdnn_tp_

Easy season for open source
The day-traders are gone from the Linux scene, the hype is down to manageable levels, yet the news still indicates increasing momentum for open-source-based projects and businesses. Within the last few months we have seen the emergence of new distribution releases based on the Linux 2.4 kernel as well as new releases of XFree86, KDE, Samba, and other packages. When 2.4.0 was released in January I said it wasn't time to cheer yet. Well, that time has come. Red Hat, SuSE, and Caldera all have released major upgrades. Corel and Storm are gone, but Progeny seems more than capable of filling in with a capable Debian-based commercial OS. Even Slackware received a major update recently.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/co...784056,00.html

Time to hack for human rights
Human rights activists put out a call to hackers here to help get the word out about their cause -- not by having them deface sites, but by creating applications that can help the organizations manage data. Greg Walton, a freelance human rights researcher, spoke to hackers at the Def Con conference in support of the Hacktivismo project, an attempt to create an anonymous, private way of getting human rights information across the Internet while protecting the identities of those who report the abuses. "We are talking about more constructive, more positive ways of dealing with human rights abuses," said Walton, who is studying how the Chinese government is censoring the Internet for its citizens. "It's not ethical to own someone's Web site as a way of getting the message out."
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/ne...094156,00.html

Def Con wears a white hat now
Is hacking starting to lose its culture? Though black clothing still dominated and clusters of hackers exchanging information was still the norm, the crowd at this year's Def Con was older and appeared to be far more professional. "It is more laid back this year," acknowledged Jeff Moss, the founder of the conference, now in its ninth year. "It is more a reflection of what is going on in the hacking community." While the hacking counterculture was still in attendance, its members seemed in the minority at the gathering of 4,500-plus people. Professional security consultants made up a large percentage, and law-enforcement and military officers padded out the majority.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/ne...094189,00.html

Microsoft's MP3 deal requires users to pay
Consumers looking to rip MP3s using Windows XP's media player will have to pay as much as $30 extra for the capability. Microsoft has changed its mind on MP3 support for its upcoming Windows XP operating system. The company originally planned to ship Windows XP with low-quality MP3 recording capabilities, leading to charges that the company favored its own Windows Media Audio (WMA) format instead. On Monday, Microsoft said it will work with third-party companies to deliver Windows XP's MP3 ripping and DVD playback capabilities. The company announced two Windows XP add-on packs, one providing full MP3 support and the other DVD playback.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/ne...094161,00.html

Microsoft moves to appease the DOJ
Microsoft Corp. contacted a top Justice Department official last week to propose new settlement negotiations in the long-running antitrust suit, people close to the case said. The Redmond, Wash., software giant called Charles James, the Justice Department antitrust chief, shortly before the company announced plans to ease certain license restrictions in its dominant Windows operating system. That move was separate from the private effort to restart talks, and wasn't taken in consultation with U.S. officials, those close to the case said.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/ne...787076,00.html

Russian Mafia threatens Net
Organized crime rings in Russia and the rest of the former Soviet Union are increasingly hacking into U.S. e-commerce and banking Web sites, posing an enormous economic threat. Hackers have launched computer viruses and disruptive denial-of-service attacks, but the biggest danger comes from hackers with ties to organized crime breaking into computers, FBI officials said. Spearheading the organized hacking rings is the Russian Mafia, security experts say. The Russian Mafia has infiltrated many businesses in the former Soviet Union, and is becoming increasingly sophisticated in computer crimes.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/ne...784950,00.html

A new beginning for Microsoft?
No one would argue that Microsoft's newly announced concessions to computer makers mark an end to the monopolist threat posed by the Windows operating system. But critics who insisted last week that the concessions were nothing more than a cosmetic change in the company's policy clearly don't understand their full implications. Microsoft has not only changed the rules for computer makers; it has conceded a fundamental tenet of the government's case--that its own right to innovate does not supersede the rights of consumers to benefit from true competition. The only question now is whether Microsoft will apply the same principles to new features in Windows XP.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/co...pt=zdnn_nbs_hl

David Bowie rocks toddlers with Web radio
Now that his fans are getting a little long in the tooth, David Bowie is targeting toddlers, a demographic not generally seen at his rock concerts. Inspired by his baby daughter, Alexandria, the 54-year-old musician has launched an Internet radio station for children, called Kick Out the Jammies, his spokesman said this week. The station, which debuted Thursday through his Web site, offers an eclectic mix of music, befitting Bowie's own unpredictable career. Undemanding urchins will drool over "Itsy Bitsy Spider" and "Purple People Eater," while sophisticated tykes will surely scream to Mozart, the Rolling Stones and Steven Sondheim.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/ne...pt=zdnn_nbs_hl

Software download patent refuses to die
A federal appeals court has for the second time breathed life into a patent that could force software vendors to pay licensing fees to sell their products directly over the Internet. A full panel of judges on the Federal Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals on Friday ordered a lower court that effectively had thrown out the patent to reconsider its scope more broadly. The decision is a setback for software makers including Intuit and AOL Time Warner's CompuServe unit, which have been battling a small Secaucus, N.J.-based company known as E-Data for years over the patent, which dates back to 1985. E-Data's defendants say the company's claim would entitle it to licensing fees for all Internet software downloads.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=mn_hd

Honesty isn't a policy, laid-off techies say
Lies, disrespect, sneak attacks: When it comes to pink slips, few technology companies deliver the news with dignity and truthfulness. That's the conclusion of a survey released Monday by Bloomington, Minn.-based Techies.com, a career portal for information technology workers. Researchers determined that laid-off employees value truthfulness more than any other factor--but only a minority of cost-cutting bosses are willing to be blunt in face-to-face conversations. Two out of five workers received the news directly from their immediate supervisor, while most received the news from a higher-level manager, human resources executive or even a contractor hired specifically to deliver the harsh news. An unlucky 4 percent heard word from media reports, and another 4 percent heard the news via an impersonal e-mail.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200...html?tag=mn_hd

Scour tunes in to Web radio
Scour.com, known as one of the early pioneers of controversial file-swapping services such as Napster, is setting its sights on Internet radio. Scour.com has partnered with online radio-programming provider RadioCentral and on Tuesday will launch three new Internet radio stations, offering music fans a choice of hip hop, electronic and rock music. Scour's move into Internet radio comes as it tries to recover from legal troubles and bankruptcy woes that led to its takeover last year by peer-to-peer company CenterSpan Communications. CenterSpan purchased Scour's technology assets and kicked off a legal version of its service a few months later.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=mn_hd

The legal weakness of Web "terms and conditions"
Every one of us has signed a contract at some point without reading it. Whether it's at a car rental agency or the doctor's office, sometimes we sign on the dotted line because we don't want to be bothered by reading the fine print -- which isn't negotiable anyway, so why bother? In some instances, we don't even get a chance to read the terms of a contract before we pay our due--such as with insurance policies and airplane tickets. The same holds true in the high-tech world, where off-the-shelf software comes packaged with "shrink-wrap" licenses -- agreements printed inside the box or incorporated into the software itself. These agreements, which we can't even see until we've bought the software, contain important terms about what users can -- and can't -- do with the software.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1276-210...html?tag=bt_pr

Why can't Johnny respect copyrights?
If members of the U.K.'s Creative Industries Task Force have their way, British teenagers will soon be cramming for tests on intellectual property law and the legal implications of file-sharing. Schoolkids who download illicit MP3 files, cut and paste newspaper articles or e-mail them, or exchange JPEG files of Britney Spears will learn the error of their ways -- at least according to the copyright officials. Classroom indoctrination is one way of targeting the Napster demographic. But can it work?
http://salon.com/tech/feature/2001/0..._ip/index.html

Government seeks to speed Microsoft case
The government on Friday asked an appeals court to issue an order promptly moving the Microsoft case back to the trial court. If honored, the request would mean that the government could go forward with the case immediately rather than waiting until mid-August. The government would otherwise have to wait 52 days from the Court of Appeals' June 28 decision before the case would return to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. The action could be a sign that the government will seek some kind of injunction against Microsoft before the new Windows XP operating system ships in October.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200...html?tag=ch_mh

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U.S. government wants a few good hackers
We're from the government and we want you to help us. That was the message from a seven-member "Meet the Fed" panel, where government officials answered the questions of a roomful of hackers at the Def Con conference here Saturday. Including members of law enforcement, a congressman and security experts, the panel illuminated the problems the government has in securing systems and appealed to hackers not to make it any harder -- both to help the government and to help themselves.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200...html?tag=ch_mh

Cell phones tunneling in
The San Francisco Bay Area this week joined the growing number of metropolitan areas taking steps to allow people to make cell phone calls while traveling through tunnels and other wireless dead zones. The Bay Area Rapid Transit District (BART) board of directors voted to begin negotiating with a company that wants to install the antennas and cables necessary to use cell phones in the 33 miles of the system that run underground, including one tunnel that travels underneath the San Francisco Bay.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200...html?tag=cd_pr

Phone makers to publish radiation levels
The world's leading mobile phone makers said Monday they will start publishing information later this year about the level of radiation emitted by their phones in response to concerns from consumers. The largest cell phone maker Nokia, the second-largest Motorola and the fourth-largest Ericsson, have agreed with the European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization on a way to measure radiation absorption on phones.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200...html?tag=cd_mh

Web, music giants march to different tunes
An agreement between Microsoft and online music service Pressplay intensifies the war brewing between Internet and music giants, raising concerns that consumers will become the real casualties.The deal, announced Thursday, allows Microsoft to offer Pressplay's online music-subscription service on its MSN Music Web site. In addition, Pressplay will use Microsoft's Windows Media technology to offer music to MSN Music customers. Because Pressplay is backed by some record companies and Microsoft is in a pitched battle with RealNetworks, the move draws a distinct line between rivals in the Internet and recording industries.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=cd_pr

MusicMatch settles with RIAA
MusicMatch on Sunday said it struck a licensing deal with the recording industry to broadcast musical performances on its Web radio service, paving the way for both parties to drop lawsuits against each other. "Entering into this license made the lawsuits unnecessary," said Bob Ohlweiler, senior vice president of music development for MusicMatch. MusicMatch was one of several Webcasters embroiled in an escalating legal battle over the royalty structure for Internet radio stations.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=cd_mh

Revolutionaries press the mute button
On a sunny university plaza here, a band played punk rock songs for a dwindling lunchtime crowd of businesspeople, code writers and copyright lawyers. The music fit the event, the fourth -- and probably last -- annual MP3.com Summit, or what used to be one of the chief gatherings of online music's revolutionaries. Entrepreneurs and engineers once spun visions here of overturning the behemoths of the traditional music business with new online music services, new formats and new ways of distribution. It is a more practical, a more subdued and certainly a far smaller bunch this year. Like punks continuing to rail against an indifferent music world, a few revolutionaries remain.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=ch_mh

Malaysian group: PCs bad for kids
A Malaysian consumer group wants computers kept away from young children, saying youths will suffer if PCs replace human contact. "We're calling for a moratorium on the use of computers in early childhood and the lower primary grades," said Lim Jee Yuan of the Consumers Association of Penang. "The children are losing out a lot when computers take the place of human contact." The group said U.S. studies have found that early exposure to computers can damage thinking skills and creativity and reduce children's attention span.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200...html?tag=cd_mh

From Netscape to Nightclub
One of San Francisco's most popular nightclubs has reopened after a two-year refurbishment financed by an ex-Netscape millionaire. The grand reopening of the DNA Lounge on Friday the 13th marked the end of owner Jamie Zawinski's two-year struggle to transform the listing, duct-taped bar into a state-of-the-art club and music venue. Minted with Netscape stock options, Zawinski bought the dilapidated night spot in San Francisco's trendy SOMA (South of Market Street) district in April, 1999, shortly after his much-publicized split with Netscape/AOL and the Mozilla project.
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,45264,00.html

People Make the Best Robots
Not everyone with a browser can attend Wednesday's fifth annual Webby Awards, but that doesn’t mean they can’t join in the hoopla. Up to 1,000 online party-crashers will be able to press flesh with the digerati, touch up their lipstick in the ladies lounge, and explore backstage using a remote-control human robot equipped with a camera and audio called the Tele-Actor. The Tele-Actor is not technically a robot. She’s a human being -- raver-fave DJ Pollywog -- who is assigned to obey human commands just like a robot. By registering on tele-actor.net, participants will be able to follow her activities through a series of still images transmitted from a wireless camera attached to the Tele-Actor’s head.
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,45137,00.html

Floridians Mock Cop Cams
Wearing masks and making obscene gestures at police cameras, about 100 people protested a new security system that scans faces in the city's crime-ridden nightlife district to search for wanted persons. "Being watched on a public street is just plain wrong," said May Becker, wearing a bar code sticker on her forehead. Becker joined demonstrators in the Ybor City district Saturday night, wearing a sign reading: "We're under house arrest in the land of the free."
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,45270,00.html

EU Drives Privacy Global
Thanks to the European Union, globalization could be improving your privacy. Microsoft, Intel, Hewlett-Packard and Procter & Gamble have recently pledged to provide European-grade privacy protection to their customers in the United States and around the world, even though no law requires them to do so. Along with 69 other companies, these four have signed an EU/U.S.-brokered arrangement called Safe Harbor. Designed to provide U.S. companies with a mechanism to comply with EU privacy law, companies that sign receive the right to transfer personal data collected on European citizens to the United States.
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,44922,00.html

Teachers Vie to Be Mr. Wizard
Science teachers battle to build the best on-the-spot experiment at the San Francisco Exploratorium Iron Science Teacher competition. Also: Teachers meet to discuss how to improve math education, in Katie Dean's education notebook.
http://www.wired.com/news/school/0,1383,45236,00.html

When Privacy and Science Collide
Public policy makers and those who study human biology are getting to know each other better than ever now that researchers are getting intimate with our DNA. The learning curve for both parties can be steep: Privacy, education, and ethics must be balanced against the potential for life-saving treatments. On Friday, members of the New Democrat Network gathered in South San Francisco at the headquarters of biotechnology pioneer Genentech. They were there to exchange ideas with a panel of executives from four leading biotech companies.
http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,45256,00.html

Wired up for wealth
Technology is not just for developed nations, it is a must for developing nations to help educate citizens, make them healthier and escape poverty. So says a report from the UN Development Programme published this week. It argues that technology has real potential to help struggling nations - if used in the right way. But it warns that the digital divide is in danger of growing ever wider unless more effort is made to help certain countries get more out of communications technologies.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/1441539.stm

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Adobe's legal attack dogs savage open source KIllustrator
Adobe's carefully cultivated 'nice guy' image has been found lacking in Germany. This is thanks to its law firm which is charging people on Adobe's behalf for the privilege of getting a stiff legal letter, writes Paul Nesbitt. Adobe is demanding that a German professor and part time open source programmer stop using the name KIllustrator as the brand for his Linux-based drawing program. KIllustrator was written by Dr Kai-Uwe Sattler, as part of a project at the University of Magdeburg, which employs him. As its name suggests, KIllustrator is similar to Adobe's famous Illustrator program, but it has been developed as part of K Office, an Office-like suite of programs for KDE user interface running over Linux.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20417.html

Microsoft racing to patch Outlook flaw
The scope and simplicity of the Microsoft Outlook bug we reported last week is far more serious than we first suspected. On Friday we reported that veteran bug hunter Georgi Guninski had discovered a loophole with Office XP which might allow an attacker to view a victim's email, delete or manipulate his or her data. This is bad enough but Microsoft has now been forced to concede the potentially devastating vulnerability affects not only Office XP but also Office 2000 and 98 to boot. The software giant has admitted that an attacker might be able to run malware of his choice simply by tricking a victim into visiting a maliciously constructed Web site.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/20413.html

MAPS to start charging for anti-spam list
Anti-spam organisation MAPS (mail abuse prevention system) is to start charging a subscription fee to its blacklist, according to a notice posted on its Web site. The new system will take effect from the end of this month. Presumably, since the demise of arch-rival ORBS earlier this year, the organisation feels it can impose monopolistic control over the anti-spam market. Both MAPS and ORBS produce a list of servers on the Internet that contain an open relay. Such open relays allow would-be spammers to send out hundreds of thousands unsolicited emails.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20410.html

WinXP ship date threatened by govt trial move?
The prospect of an injunction delaying the October launch of Windows XP drew closer on Friday, with a government request to the appeals court to send the case back to the district court early. The current status as regards Microsoft's little legal issue is that the appeals court intends to send it back to the district court anyway, but that it's currently in a waiting period in order to give both parties the opportunity to ask the appeals court to hear the case again. Friday's motion from the DoJ and states points out that as neither party intends to do this, there's no point in waiting. But the timing could well have an effect on XP; the absolute earliest the district court could start on the case under the current schedule is mid-August.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20403.html

Survey Shows Net Use Steady Over Last Six Months
Reports of the Net's demise may be greatly exaggerated. A survey released today by the Pew Internet and American Life Project in Washington D.C. suggests that Internet usage remained somewhat steady.According to the telephone survey conducted in February, Pew Internet pollsters found that 54 percent of the respondents said they found no change in their Internet usage habits over the previous six months. But, nearly 30 percent of Web surfers said their usage of the Net has increased over the previous six months. Of those respondents, 29 percent said they’re spending more time on the Net due to school or work.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scite...age010716.html

Babies Remember Tunes Played From Before They Were Born, Study Says
Babies remember tunes they were played in the womb for as much as a year after birth, says a new study. "All previous research showed that they could remember things for up to a month but there was no evidence to suggest that they would remember for up to a year," said Alexandra Lamont, a psychologist and lecturer at Britain's University of Leicester psychology department who conducted the study. "I really wasn't expecting this."
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/livin...ic_010711.html

Napster to use new digital encoding technology for subscription service
Embattled song-swap service Napster Inc. said Monday it was using new digital encoding technology to power a subscription-based service it hopes to launch this summer. Napster said the technology, licensed from PlayMedia Systems, would enable Napster’s software to encode, recognize and play copyright-protected music files on the membership service. “Napster is at the forefront of using some extremely advanced rights management and security technologies in a file-sharing environment,” Napster’s interim CEO Hank Barry said in a statement.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/601142.asp?0dm=C14NT

Net is key to higher living standards
Poorer countries can raise their living standards by changing laws, building technology infrastructure and training workers to use the Internet, a report released Monday concludes. The document urges countries to copy successful programs that use information technology to create jobs, lure investment and sell high-tech products and handmade crafts on the global market.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/600973.asp?0dm=C17NT

Music sites hope to start humming online shortly
Paid Internet music services haven’t made much headway so far. But the problems of free music-swapping service Napster Inc., and some thorny licensing issues, are raising entrepreneurs’ hopes. A Chicago start-up, FullAudio Corp., for example, plans to launch a music-subscription service in 90 days, hoping to hit the market before two high-profile joint ventures backed by major record labels that plan to offer subscriptions as well.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/600806.asp?0dm=C1BNT

FullAudio Signs EMI
FullAudio landed a licensing deal with EMI Recorded Music, which paves the way for a launch of the subscription music service in the fall. The deal brings FullAudio's license tally up to three, with EMI Publishing, EMI Recorded Music and BMG Music Publishing. For a subscription-based music service like the one FullAudio has developed, there are generally two licenses required to use a song, one from the publisher and one from the label. Now that FullAudio has both deals signed with EMI, they could theoretically launch their service using songs from EMI's vast catalog including artists such as Radiohead, Coldplay and the Beatles.
http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,27950,00.html

RIAA Seeks Dismissal Of SDMI Suit
The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has asked a federal judge to throw out a lawsuit filed by a group of scientists who want to go public with data on how to crack security measures that are supposed to protect digital audio. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and Princeton University scientists on June 6 filed a federal lawsuit to allow publication of research that the RIAA and other groups say will compromise legal online music distribution. Science professor Edward Felten and the EFF believe the RIAA and other groups threatened to file a lawsuit if the data were published. At the time the RIAA said the legal action was "inexplicable," insisting that it never intended to sue.
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/167992.html

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Don't forget, people... knowledge is power
http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/article/471671

Originally posted by walktalker

Babies Remember Tunes Played From Before They Were Born, Study Says
Babies remember tunes they were played in the womb for as much as a year after birth, says a new study. "All previous research showed that they could remember things for up to a month but there was no evidence to suggest that they would remember for up to a year," said Alexandra Lamont, a psychologist and lecturer at Britain's University of Leicester psychology department who conducted the study. "I really wasn't expecting this."
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/livin...ic_010711.html

hmmm...........so, "fetuses" enjoy and remember music??? And we kill them??? Will somebuddy please explain this to me, 'cus I sure as hell don't get it.

[mike4947]

"Each speaker played a piece of music: One was the prenatal music and the other was a piece of music chosen for its similarity in key, pace, and loudness. Atop each speaker was a ball with colored lights.

Researchers recorded the length of time the babies spent looking at each ball — implying they were listening to each piece of music."


MY how scientific Seems the only thing they proved was babies liked colored lights.

[Maze]

Outstanding walktalker ...outstanding! Interesting headlines and interesting choices you made. Reading some of those headlines ...it's all about the money ain't it? For WindowsXP & file & music sharing. What a pisser ...I wish it was like it was April-June last year on Napster. <font FACE="Symbol" color="#AEBED4">¬ </font><font color="#AEBED4"><i>(I think he looks more pissed than suspicious)</i></font>

Originally posted by mike4947

MY how scientific. Seems the only thing they proved was babies liked colored lights.

Read the article again, Mike. It said the babies showed NO interest in music they had NOT heard prenatally. Besides, mothers have known this for years. Many women play music for their "fetuses". This is nothing new.

[mike4947]

Belle, I agree with you on the subject, I disagree with the method, sample size, and the fact that they set out to prove a conclusion. Very, Very unscientific.

Originally posted by mike4947
Belle, I agree with you on the subject, I disagree with the method, sample size, and the fact that they set out to prove a conclusion. Very, Very unscientific.

Okay, so you be the scientist. How does one determine if infants remember music they heard in the womb??? Also, they used controls. I thought that was very important.

[mike4947]

Originally posted by Belle



Okay, so you be the scientist. How does one determine if infants remember music they heard in the womb??? Also, they used controls. I thought that was very important.

Well I did a little searching, this "study" was just a press release. It hasn't been submitted for publication. In the University publish or parish world, that means it was put out only for it's publicity value.

Originally posted by mike4947


Well I did a little searching, this "study" was just a press release. It hasn't been submitted for publication. In the University publish or parish world, that means it was put out only for it's publicity value.

Well that may be true. I think the article was interesting, tho. Maybe someone will do a study that is scientific.

[TankGirl]

Gorgeous newspaper work, WT!
Thanks again for keeping us so well informed!

- tg