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The Bush Campaign
the Bushie's campaign is officially under way and ads are starting to appear in key markets acros the country. the Prez thinks use of 9/11 imagery enhances his position - some feel otherwise ...
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9-11 scares lefties because quite frankly they want people to forget it because despite their best efforts through lefty rags like the NYT and LaTimes most people in America associate Bush as a resolute leader through it and afterwords, they don't remember whatever bullshit TakeBackTheMedia and MoveOn try to spin, they remember Bush with the megaphone telling firefighters that America was going to get those responsible and that scares the hell out of the left because they have nothing to counter it.
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why would anyone be offended by using the most important issue of our time in a political ad? to follow that line would be to state that the memory of an attack on the united states belongs only to those related to the dead and wounded. the attack was on our entire country. the us sent its military to afghanistan to fight a war that obl started, we did not send a contingent of relatives of the deceased. the fact is, the public needs to be reminded of the importance of national defense and the war on terror. it seems that many have pretty much forgotten about 9/11.
the dems will drag out a a few relatives of the deceased and have that person say it disrespects the memory of those who died. the dems should survey ALL of the victims families, and see if they ALL think that this ad is over the top. the tactic the democrats will use is to feign outrage whenever the subject is brought up, since it's now known that kerry..who by the way was in vietnam, will not continue the war on terror. i think the bush campaign should release commercials of the planes flying into the towers, while playing a voice over of kerry announcing "the threat is exaggerated..al-qaeda is not that bad". Quote:
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actually, i think the controversy is more along the lines of using the 9/11 event to sell a product - in this case, Bush.
and if it's the most important issue of our time, why does the Prez refuses to testify live about it in front of the 9/11 Commission? what scares the GOP more - a)having the Prez getting caught in a prolonged unscripted public event or b)the questions he might be asked or c) both? |
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you conservative shirt and tie wearing gimps..so righteous..some sort of plebians that think they are never wrong about anything...(how the hell do you get to be so perfect?) ha what a bunch of gutless morons.. pulling out looney conspiracy theories when ever it suits them.. ok.. then paint all lefties with tin foil hats..when ever you like..you guys are choice...lol comeon 911 would justify starting a phoney war..and of course help keep control as long as possible..and to almost subliminaly use it to get reelected would be the logical way to use it...its been a valuable propaganda investment..now you look to be abusing it just a little.. bush is like a cocacola salesman selling a product that sells itself...if he had not have had images of the towers in his campaign it would of been a much more powerful message(then maybe some would complain that it was excluded) anyway..the right have so much to play with..they dont even really need to drag the opposition thru the mud constantly like they do.. but i guess also being victims of the fear they spread to stay in power..they are scared...(and they should be because so much needs to be undone) that sort of attack is ofcourse is a typical way to show it.. there is no doubt in my mind that the current US leadership could go down in history as the most evil and corrupt capitalist regime ever.. ( the evil regimes they set out to destroy will look pale in comparison) so proud they have sucsessfully turned iraq into another israel vs the pals..situation making a nice smokescreen so those butchers(ie.sharon) can do what they like.. the revenge factor for the twin tower deaths must be pretty sweet..most of the heart of the muslim world has been invaded...and the civillian deaths must be hitting over 10,000 by now? will they rig this election just like the conservatives plan on doing here(the last one was a sham too most likely) it will take decades for any real evidence to emerge of election rigging in this period of time...if ever ouch.. i must have a hole..ouch.. in my tin foil hat arrrrgg... the beams are getting in..whoa! |
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or....that the clinton-gore airline safety commission set the stage for 9/11. or....that clinton refused to receive sudan's vital intelligence files on bin laden’s network. or....that bin-laden planned the attack on the uss cole, the 1993 attack on the wtc, the 1998 bombing of east african u.s. embassies, and clinton did nothing. or....that bin laden declared war on the u.s. 5 times between 1996 – 1998, and clinton just ignored it. or....that sudan offered bin laden to the u.s. numerous times, and clinton refused.
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While voicing support for the 9/11 probe, Bush and those around him have been working diligently to undermine the commission's work, going all the way back to before the investigation began.
If you listened only to Bush's rhetoric, you'd think he was a major booster of the inquiry. Indeed, he said he supported the extension. "We have given extraordinary cooperation," he told Tim Russert a couple of weeks ago. "I want the truth to be known." Bush told Russert on "Meet The Press" that he'd be pleased to testify and was turning over his daily briefing reports. That's what the president said. Now follow the trail of what he has done. At first, Bush was opposed to the whole idea of the commission. Under strong pressure from Republicans and Democrats, he ultimately relented. But he never seemed too enthusiastic about the probe. Commission members wanted the right to subpoena witnesses. The White House opposed that, relenting only when the subpoena rules were tightly limited. Bush told Russert he'd release those daily-briefing forms. Then, that too was tangled up in restrictions: Only to the chairmen, not to be shared with other members, only summaries. That is still being wrangled out. Then there was the question of whether Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney would testify. Security adviser Condoleezza Rice agreed to speak only briefly, in private and on a weekend. Bush told Russert he'd love to appear. Then he began dragging his feet. Only in private, he said. Only with the chairmen. Only for an hour. We'll see if it happens at all. |
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spend eight years tying up a president with incosequential triffles and don't be too surprised of he gets distracted occasionally.
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"Peaceful Tomorrows” is being portrayed as an independent group of relatives of victims of the 911 attacks. They are getting a lot of press claiming to be outraged over the new Bush ads. I wonder if this outrage could possibly be a tad overblown, and more likely attributable to the millions and millions of dollars this group has received from endowments chaired by Teresa Heinz, wife of Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry. According to their own contribution page, “Peaceful Tomorrows is a project of the Tides Center, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization.” According to an article in the Pittsburgh Review, “Between 1995 and 2001, $4.3 million of that money came from the Howard Heinz Endowment. In 2002, it and the Vira Heinz Endowment blessed The Tides Center, a San Francisco spin-off of the Tides Foundation, with another $190,000 while the two endowments gave $1.6 million to the new Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania.” (The Heinz Endowments have teamed up with a secretive left-wing group) The money that flows into The Tides also flows out. They have given grants totaling $489,000 to the Iraq Peace Fund, who used that money to fund the anti-war marches and media costs of 27 groups, including MoveOn.org, whose purpose is to defeat George W. Bush. Other Tides Center projects include The Youth Gender Project, which seeks to "empower and support transgender, gender-variant, intersexed and gender-questioning youth and young adults." They also shoveled $200,000 towards The Ruckus Society - founded in 1995 to train activists in violent protest against biotechnology, globalization and the World Bank. It incited property destruction in the Seattle riots of 1999 and Washington, D.C., the following year. Now, if you really want to get mad, you should also know that $8,000,000 in taxpayer money flowed into the Tides Center in the form of federal grants made by eight different agencies between 1997 and 2001." "peaceful tomorrows" web page.... http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/
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ffs..bush only just won the last election...remember.
well aint it a shame all the people killed were not conservatives...but then again
even some conservatives have family members that would rally against conservative thinking...and its closedminded & bigoted way of dealing with things.. you dickheads better learn to live with the fact you havent shuffled all the lefties off into concentration camps and gas chambers just yet.. there should be a lot more civil disobedience..like seattle and S11 people like to spit in the faces of those stuck up consevatives and their cop mates..good on em.. you think your talk scares people into voting against change or maybe even think the fear sways them to your point of view.. but you dont see the ones that it inspires to action against all the repetitive bullshit ideologies(ie.visionary speculation : idle theorizing; often : an impractical theory or system of theories) you can moan and belittle people as much as you like..but most will always see right (scuse the pun ) through you.. |
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you can moan and belittle people as much as you like..but most will always see right. (pun intended)
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hey Multi we don't have to gas you lefties or put you in concentration camps, the Roe Effect is slowing making the country more conservative year in and year out. like any disease liberalism is slowing getting worked out of the system of America.
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haha disease ..yeah right..dis-ease
im sure the corupt big buisiness has plenty of ways to "cull" the left theres cigarettes alchohol and drugs..and then all the brainwashing that goes along with just those to make sure medicine make their money out of persuading people to their deaths..while using them as human guinea pigs.. repetitive sugestion..over, over and over you seem to know the tactic well span.. |
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dems can try to portray bush as responsible for the attacks, but if the commission is objective, its final report will point the fickle finger of fate directly at the clinton administration. 9/11 Commission Set to Blame Bush, Clinton Gets a Pass The chairman of the independent commission investigating the 9/11 attacks is hinting that he's prepared to place blame at the doorstep of the Bush White House for not acting on evidence that could have prevented the catastrophe. But commission chairman, former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean, has yet to examine key evidence indicating that President Clinton knew Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America but failed to take appropriate action to stop him as the 9/11 operation was being organized. "[9/11] was not something that had to happen," Kean told CBS News on Wednesday, adding that officials in the Bush administration had failed to protect America. "There are people that, if I was doing the job, would certainly not be in the position they were in at that time because they failed. They simply failed," the top 9/11 prober said. But key recordings of Mr. Clinton admitting that he turned down an offer for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S. – "though we knew," in the ex-president words, "that he wanted to commit crimes against America" – have not been sought by the commission. Clinton's comments were videotaped by the Long Island Association, where he made the stunning admission during the group's annual luncheon on Feb. 15, 2002. However, requests for the video later that year by NBC News, the Fox News Channel and NewsMax.com were refused by the business group. It's not known whether the ex-president had an agreement with the LIA to prohibit distribution of their recording. NewsMax.com's audiotape of the event is the only publicly available recording of Clinton's remarks. In July, 9/11 commission spokesman Al Felzenberg told NewsMax that the ex-president's admission would likely be part of the probe. "Since this is obviously on the public record, I wouldn't be surprised if it came up," he explained. But five months later, the Kean commission has yet to seek the original audiotape, which shows the ex-president detailing his decision to pass up what turned out to be America's best chance to avoid the 9/11 attacks. "We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again," Clinton told the LIA. "They released [bin Laden]. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America." Still, instead of exploring what turned out to be the worst foreign policy blunder in U.S. history, the Kean commission now appears to have the Bush White House in the crosshairs."As you read the report, you're going to have a pretty clear idea what wasn't done and what should have been done," Kean told CBS. "They simply failed." http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...18/03615.shtml
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Re: ffs..bush only just won the last election...remember.
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