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14-09-17, 12:51 PM | #1 |
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A lot of political propaganda about the illegal immigrant children of illegal immigrant parents. I'd like to see information about how much wealth they've already drained from the U.S. via welfare, education, healthcare, social services, etc. Leftist mass media won't publicize this because they're mainly interested in them as political tools for their agenda. They've already demonstrated little respect for the rule of law so they'd be excellent democrats.
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21-09-17, 07:07 PM | #2 | |
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23-09-17, 01:22 PM | #3 |
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For me, it isn't even about the money. It's about our sovereignty. The politicians and pundits who supported DACA have been making a very crudely-reasoned argument lately: if you oppose DACA it's because you oppose immigration (note they no longer make the distinction between legal and illegal immigration) because you are racist. This argument is about as rigorous as a wet noodle, but when the end goal is to give undocumented immigrants the franchise—because Democrats are learning they can't even win the elections they've rigged anymore—then who cares about logic and reason, or ethics for that matter?
Illegal immigrants who grew up here usually assimilate pretty easily, most all of them are fluent English speakers, and they want to stay, to work here, to pay taxes here, all of that. If they weren't already here illegally, and if they weren't indoctrinated by their illegal immigrant parents that they deserve the unearned privilege to stay here, they'd be exactly the sort of people we'd want to immigrate. DACA wasn't the proper way to handle the situation so it's good that Trump's doing away with it, but I'm sure there's a way to give legal status to illegal alien minors in a way that doesn't make them eligible for a bunch of free stuff. Letting them vote, though, is out of the question, unless they go through the same process all naturalized citizens have to go through. |
28-09-17, 05:17 AM | #4 |
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http://video.foxnews.com/v/559127487...ng-us-big-time
New study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform using government data; illegal immigrants cost the US $135 billion per year in medical, education and law enforcement expenses, pay $19 billion per year in taxes. 700,000 DACA illegal immigrants, if legalized can be expected to sponsor an average of 3.5 relatives each. Democrats want their votes, Republicans want cheap labor, Americans want neither. You can't grant citizenship without letting them vote but many cities are already letting them vote in local elections. http://www.newsweek.com/immigrants-a...america-664467 DACA is just a weak point for the left who want any and all illegal immigrants to have the ability to oppose American citizens in controlling their own country.
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26-01-18, 01:42 AM | #5 |
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build the wall deport them all.
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