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Old 10-11-07, 02:58 AM   #1
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Question Democrats to drop renewable energy standard out of the energy bill

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Pelosi and Reid are just about to do the stupidest thing imaginable: pull the rug out from underneath the blossoming renewable energy economy at the time when we need it most.

(Start reaching for your phone...)

Just as every single magazine in the country is giving the energy crisis more press than Paris Hilton, and just as renewable energy is becoming the entrepreneurial equivalent of the internet revolution and just as the news about climate change is getting weirder and scarier every time we open the freakin' paper, our crazy-assed Democratic leaders are completely dropping the ball, and you gotta call Capitol Hill right now and tell them to get their head's straight fast.

As Adam Browning of Vote Solar put it "Thursday morning, Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi decided to drop the renewable energy standard out of the energy bill and drop the tax title. No tax title means no extension of the investment tax credit for solar, and no extention of the production tax credit for wind. Let's see...nothing for solar, plus nothing for wind, hmmm, add no renewable energy standard, carry the zero...yep, that adds up to precisely nothing for renewable energy.

Got that? Congressional leadership is moving an energy bill with nothing in it for renewable energy. Dropping the biggest pro-solar provision this country has ever seen, just when the industry is gaining momentum and making an impact."

According to Adam, we've got maybe 24 hours to turn this around. 24 hours. That's not a lot of time.

Now he suggested a script to use when you call the Hill, but mine is better, it goes like this:

'Hi Senator Pelosi? Um, 90% of America, would like more renewable energy and you are ignoring them? So you're either crazy or you are possessed by the devil. Which one is it? I hope you're possessed by the devil because insanity takes years of therapy to cure and we are running out of time but all you need to get rid of Satan is a flask of holy water and a sober village priest. So, get your exorcism on sister and get the 8-year extension for the solar investment tax credits in the energy bill. Do it, do it now. Thank you very much.'

You can use the same script for Reid, only don't call him "sister."

Pelosi's offices number is 202- 225-4965
Reid's office's number is 202-224-3542

Then you should call your Congressman or woman and get all fired up on this too. You can find your congressional leader here. Tell 'em stuff like this:

* Clean energy means jobs and energy independence.
* America needs carbon-free renewable energy immediately. Tons of it.
* Renewable energy is a key component in the war against climate change.
* The energy bill must extend investment tax credits for solar.
* Yes, you know you are shouting, it's just that you are really very pissed off about this and you really want them do something about it.

Come on, Act Now!

This is really serious stuff. This is a call to arms. We're fighting a two front war against climate change and woefully short sighted politicians. Call your friends, aunts, uncles, the whole lot of them. Get everyone dialing. Today.

Because time is running out in more ways than one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/toby-b...r_b_71888.html

What's happening in the USA these days?
Have you become a Christian version of a Muslim Theocracy?

Fuck the devil..she (Pelosi) has been bought and sold by corporate interests, as it would seem the majority of the Democrats have been,especially the Clinton camp.

ok ,it was a joke..but wtf?
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Old 10-11-07, 08:28 AM   #2
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Corporations haven't just bought politicians, multi, they've bought the whole environmental movement. In case you haven't noticed, environmentalism is the latest fashion. Reread what you've posted:
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Every single magazine in the country is giving the energy crisis more press than Paris Hilton, and renewable energy is becoming the entrepreneurial equivalent of the internet revolution...
In other words, renewable energy is more profitable now than ever before, meaning it no longer needs to be subsidized by the government to get moving because it is well underway. If anything, renewable energy should be taxed like other sources of energy. There's nothing the government can do to hurt the renewable energy industry now, not as long as the media keeps telling us that we're all going to die unless we buy a Prius and a few solar panels.
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Old 10-11-07, 09:30 AM   #3
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Thanks Captain..
Something tells me it's a lot more than just the sales of the Prius and solar panels you are talking about here... it's more about the the government not getting taxes from it ,as you mentioned or maybe stopping people from powering vehicles on things like water... but theres a lot more about keeping a long term dependence on Oil, about not giving the general population access to ideas and technologies that would unhook them from relying on petrochemicals for heating ,transport and packaging....
In case you would like to pull me up on my previous post in the 'AlGore' thread
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Global Warming is being used by established western industrial nations in conjunction with globalist groups such as the CFR, Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission, which are populated with heads of corporate industry, to place draconian restrictions upon developing countries and force up energy prices. Industrial globalists have everything to gain from perpetuating the man made theory, the logic that they would conspire against climate change advocates is impaired.
This Climate 'change' may be , inevitable ,non-existant or both
but it won't alter the fact that we are being kept back from technology that could of been on the way to being devolped many decades ago. So if renewable energy is becoming the entrepreneurial equivalent of the internet revolution , we should really start getting the real picture on this whole subject..... very, very soon.

Bullshit... it will never happen... you know it, I know it. What will happen is you will see many more years of this same repetitive obscurification by those that gain from Oil and Petro-chemical sales.

So it is corporate kickbacks to the Democrats that is making them ditch the 8-year extension for the solar investment tax credits in the energy bill you reckon then , Mazer?

Not insanity, the devil or something else but influence of interests such as CFR, Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission, because that is a bit unusual
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Old 10-11-07, 03:00 PM   #4
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My opinion on this subject seems to be overall the same as yours. We need to see incentives for development of a host of environmentally responsible programs. For example, more people would take advantage of solar energy if it was not so expensive.

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Have you become a Christian version of a Muslim Theocracy?
I certainly looks that way for them, doesn’t it? I don’t think they want to destroy the U.S. by giving in to terrorists, I think they are just being opportunistic. They just want to get into (public) office, and do not care about the aftermath. Whatever bad things happen will just be blamed on the previous administration(s). This is very short-sighted and very dangerous.

If you think Pelosi and Reid are bad, wait and see what happens if Hillary Clinton gets in the White House. The 2008 vote so far looks like trying to pick the lesser of evils from the available candidates and hope for the best, but expect the worst.

No disrespect to anyone is intended but I think that the issue with the Dems and the tax credits thing is that the Dems would rather encourage change (to more environmentally sound technologies) by taxing carbon emissions rather than encourage such changes through tax credits or similar types of incentives.

Whereas both taxation and tax credits would encourage changes, tax credits encourage change and does not cause bureaucratic induced waste, and is not confiscatory.

The kind of changes that need to happen can not happen overnight. Whereas changes won’t come swiftly, they are far less likely to come at all if there is no incentive for change.
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Old 10-11-07, 07:44 PM   #5
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They just want to get into (public) office, and do not care about the aftermath.
A lot of inaction and excuse making is making Clinton and Pelosi look like weak corporate whores to a lot of people. The Ron Paul camp is picking up 100's of supporters disenchanted with the Democrats daily, probably enough to swing the whole election again to the Republicans, even though he himself stands a slim chance of making the nomination he could really screw the balance of things for the Democrats.



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The thin veil covering the almost indistinguishable difference between the two major parties has all but disappeared. The good Congressman from Texas named Ron Paul is the only candidate that comes with no strings attached leading to globalist puppeteers. Paul's popular yet simple message of freedom is spreading, while the establishment scrambles to scare up support from ever more skeptical Americans for their increasingly un-popular candidates.
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Old 10-11-07, 09:37 PM   #6
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You pathetic dipshits still don't get it; the dems say whatever trips your idiot triggers and gets your votes with no intention of turning their rhetoric into action.


You're all mosttly free to put solar panels on your roofs or windmill generators in your yards or battery powered cars in your garages and if you're too dumb to do it yourself you can pay someone to do it for you.

BUT YOU DON'T!!

Why is that the government's fault? It didn't make you stupid worthless lackeys, that's your parents doing. And they should have killed you when you first showed how stupid and worthless you really were.
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