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22-08-05, 09:07 AM | #81 | |||||||||
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Since I am not a lawyer I copied and pasted article 51 here which states: ‘it is the State which has been the subject of an armed attack which must form and declare the view that it has been attacked. There is no rule of customary international law permitting another State to exercise the right of (collective) self-defense on the basis of its own assessment of the situation. Where (collective) self-defense is invoked, it is to be expected that the State for whose benefit this right is used will have declared itself to be the victim of an armed attack.’ I think it is fair to say that neither the U.S., the U.K. or The Netherlands for that matter of fact have shown us any form of proof that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attacks (directly of indirectly)nor that Iraq posed a serious danger/threat to the safety of the U.S. or to the middle east region. Not to mention the fact whether it was an armed attack or not. Based on this article I think those who are against this war have a valid point. [quote=mazer]Well the citizins of Madrid might, but Londoners are tough bastards, and they proved it after they were attacked. Tragic as it was, they weren't going to let the terrorists rule their fears. The Spaniards on the other hand played right into thier attacker's hands by electing an anti-war prime minister. The terrorists won in Spain and they lost in England, and the important difference wasn't the body count. Hehehehe good one. I already applauded the British for their attitude towards the London bombings in another thread. I wasn’t questioning the behavior of the two countries involved, I was questioning your statement: Quote:
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The V.C. did recruit people and even kids to blow themselves up and take a few U.S. soldiers with them. (or have I been watching too many movies?) Not only did they do just that, the V.C. did make use of the ho chi minh trail which lead them through Cambodian territory. Which in my opinion is not all that far off when you compare it to Iraqi insurgents Of course you people shouldn’t call it quits because something is unprecedented. To be honest, presidencies (did I spell that right?) are there to be set! Quote:
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For the oh so sudden insight of international law I went here @multi The difference between the numbers you showed and the numbers I came up with can hardly be called splitting hairs mate You are absolutely right that the number of all people killed during the second world war was indeed 55 million. Trust me if they teach us one thing in history class here in Europe it is just that. Considering we were dead smack in the middle of it righteously so I guess. The numbers I gave you were American casualties and wounded only and I should have been more clear on that one. linky @TheKnive actually i wasn't looking at you. I am a true insomniac and this place gets mighty boring after midnight and there is only a little bit of internet porn i can take Quote:
anyways we are a zillion miles of topic so there for ... Mike out
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22-08-05, 12:42 PM | #82 |
Thanks for being with arse
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ah but you missed the bit of hair that was split
(sorry ,i sort of guessed it must of been the US totals after looking at that statistics page) my point being : if there were less dead in the first world war so the theory of modern conflicts causing less and less deaths as time goes on is slightly flawed if say the US were fighting against iraqi troops with exactly the same vintage weaponary ,like in the the world wars..it would be much different (arguably the US has always had the upper hand even in those wars,but back then the playing field was a lot more even) I would hate to think what the tolls could be in a full scale world war with modern weaponary.. the war to end all wars... the neocons masters would never have that the 60 years or so of peace must of been hell for them.. |
22-08-05, 06:51 PM | #83 |
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Heh, you sound as burnt out on this crap as I feel too, knife. At 5 pages I call it quits.
But toy boy, you bring some good points to the table. I find it hard to disagree with you, but maybe I'm just being stubborn. |
27-09-05, 03:59 AM | #84 |
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Cindy figures out how to get men to touch her-
By protesting in DC without a permit and sitting on the sidewalk and refusing to move, Cindy Sheehan, the ugly face of the war in Iraq, was lifted and carried away by park police to her obvious enjoyment. http://www.pardonmyenglish.com/archi...n_arreste.html |
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Democrats force Cindy Sheehan out of the war against war -
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so sad and so true
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Sorry: they have it made , and we don't..
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The Govs have it made.
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OH, Sorry 4 letter word..(Govs).
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she got this part right:
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Awww, give her a sympathy boink knife.
(I recommend two bags). What you never hear from Cindy Sheehan - Casey Sheehan: Quote:
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He died after volunteering for a rescue mission? Knowing that we can only blame his death on the man who shot him.
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