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02-08-05, 02:38 PM | #81 |
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So what does that have to do with "did Karl Rove commit treason?" floydian?
Start your own thread for your stupid bullshit so people will know to ignore it. |
03-08-05, 01:14 AM | #82 | |
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ummm... where it says...
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a typical day for Scott McClellan
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as the Plame Grand jury winds down, Washington is just bursting with rumors about the outcome. here's a fun one from Radar Magazine:
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In January 1985, New York State Chief Judge Sol Wachtler said:
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"too stupid to be president.com"? "crooks and liars.com"? An article from "Radar Magazine.com" that begins "The D.C. rumor mill"? If the guys did wrong, they should be punished. However, this "campaign of righteousness" has a glaringly obvious political slant. Edit: Oops, forgot source reference Source article appeared in the New York Daily News Page 3 on January 31, 1985 Article quoted at URL http://www.barrypopik.com/article/84...a-ham-sandwich
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ham sandwiches don't start wars for no apparent reason.
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Kind of like your propaganda efforts knife. When one fizzles just start another. They could go on forever like this, just switching from accusation to accusation. I'm sure you could too. That is if neither of you catches on to how petty and vindictive you're beginning to look to the public.
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Did anybody vote for K Rowie?
I for one, couldn't care less.
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as if the rumor mill could possibly take any more pressure, this speculation from US News & World Report:
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the GOP has developed a new talking point in response to the burgeoning Plame investigation - "the criminalization of politics". this new meme has been mentioned some 30 times in the past few weeks, but only in one place: you guessed it - Fox News (surprise!). see the birth of a talking point here.
meanwhile, apparently the insider who has flipped is John Hannah, a senior national security aide on loan to Vice President Dick Cheney from the offices of then-Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs John Bolton. according to MSNBC, via the Carpetbagger Report: Quote:
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Hardball's Chris Matthews gets it:
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28-10-05, 03:07 PM | #93 |
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almost anti-climactic, when the other shoe finally dropped today...Rove lives to see another day, Libby does not. 5 counts for him - 2 for perjury, 1 obstruction of justice, 2 for making false statements. interesting the way it played out, with Fitzgerald apprently unable to make the case for disclosing Valerie Plame's identity due to Libby's perjury/obstruction. but i was listening to his press conference today and my impression from his comments was that Libby's testimony was so blatantly contradicted by other accounts that prosecutors felt it would be remiss not to charge him. it's always the cover-up that gets 'em - you'd think they would know better by now.
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I take it you didn't shoot a gooey mess into your shorts then.
Damn that Rove...gets you all worked up and then walks away.
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Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements in the investigation of the C.I.A. leak of the identity of a covert CIA operative. Now many Republicans stress the fact that he was not charged with leaking the CIA operative's identity. This may be true but he was charged with perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements to FBI agents and the grand jury. If someone discounts the seriousness of the allegations then one must assume that they have a personal reason to discount them and the rule of law. Scooter's problems all come back to the fact that Scooter his boss Dick Cheney and George W. Bush mislead the country into going to the war in Iraq. They, as the British say, 'sexed up' the reasons to go to war and tried to quiet critics including outing a CIA agent to get back at her husband for publicly noting facts the Bush Administration were using were knowingly bogus. Scooter and possibly others in the Bush Administration went after the CIA agent's husband and in doing so revealed her identity. Doing so is a crime; however proving it is almost impossible but just because it cannot be proven does not mean it did not happen. Where there is smoke there is fire and a lot of smoke is coming from the Oval Office...
Many Republicans are hitting the talk shows making the point that Scooter is charged with basically talking to reporters, that he was not charged with leaking the CIA agent's name. These Republicans have a reason for trying to downgrade the crimes committed and that is because they too mislead and lied to the American people about why the country was going to war. They too used the faulty information and they too may have known that it was bogus at the time. As Scooter goes to trial, so do all the Republicans that backed Bush and Cheney on the war while at the time attacking all those against the war as unpatriotic. Every Republican that goes on to downplay the charges against Libby should be considered part of the conspiracy to take America to war based on the lies and deceit of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby. They have dragged America into a long war that everyone now knows could have been avoided. Since it is not a crime to lie to the American public look for the Bush Administration to keep lying until each member of Bush's staff has to face the grand jury or be called upon as a witness in Scooter's trial. The only time the Bush Administration tells the truth is when they face a grand jury and Scooter couldn't even tell the truth then... Scooter covered up his trail of slander against the CIA agent and her husband and in doing so broke the law. The question remains if Bush and Cheney knew what Scooter was doing and if so when did they know it? When the time comes to abide by the rule of law will the Republican Congress impeach a president and his vice president that sent American soldiers off to die in a war that was nothing more than a boondoggle? Don't count on it; the Republican Congress cares little of the rule of law and only of their own power and stock portfolios. The rule of law is only something Republicans apply to Democratic presidents... The Bush Administration and the current Congress are the most corrupt in the history of the nation and should be thrown out like yesterday's office coffee. Both leave a bad taste in your mouth and the longer it sits in office, the more bitter it is and the worse it gets.... |
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Are you suggesting Repo is or was normal?
I think the liberals always were warped and weak minded but they've only lately been inspired to trumpet it to the world. It's particularly laughable how they squawk their outrage about lying when they're whole idealogy is based on lies. Quote:
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